Illusion Or Real?

[singhni]

erm atl ji

""Gurus died and their bodies returned to dust just the like the rest of mankind. Jesus is the only resurrected one, who did rise from dead and his body did not see decay."-<banned word filter activated>

say that to a Singhs face and we'll see who cryed of pain More, you or your jesus."

not that this post writen by rajs isnt the most amount of rubbish i have ever heard, but you called him an <banned word filter activated> for stating the fact that our gurus bodies did turn to dust.

they did.

rajs is clearly a very confused person, but not for saying this!

our guru ji's bodies did turn to dust like the rest of mankind, BUT their souls merged with Vaheguru.

"than dhhan hosee shhaar jaanai koe jan ||

Body and wealth shall return to dust - hardly anyone realizes this."

hang on, i was looking through sikhitothemax for a quote to support what i jus said(the one above does), but also found the one below:

"bin simaran than shhaar sarapar chaalanaa ||3||

but without the meditative remembrance of the Lord, your body shall surely turn to dust, and you shall have to depart. ||3||"

does this mean that only those bodies "without the meditative remmebrance of the lord" will turn to dust?? or all bodies generally will turn to dust??

hmmm.....

if it means the latter...then the guru's bodies did turn to dust.

sangats views?

[Pheena]

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Stop the Hit and Run strategy and then perhaps we can have a good discussion. Reply to the point made by others in this thread. .

[singh_khalsa]

science has proven many so called facts in your bible wrong. guru granth sahib is the only one in the world which is ahead of all science. Tells us how there is evoltuion, how planets orbit the sun (rememebr this is 500 years ago) and the countless galaxies that exist. science cannot prove anything wrong in the guru granth sahib. now science has realised all this recently. but guru ji knows everything, and even told us how there are countless universes. now even science doesnt know about this, it only recently had theories about there being other universes. your bible has many faults. so no point using the beliefs of the bible in arguing against any views of sikhi.

[gupt_paapi]

Still waiting to hear form rajs...

anyways, Christianity mentioned the WORD, so did Islam and other religions. But they FAILED.. yup FAILED to spread this word.

SIkhi is the only religion (maybe sikhi not even that) that was SUCCESSFUL in its mission.. in spreading NAAM, the WORD.

Ask a Christian, what is YAHWEH? No1 knows!! Yet bible mentions them.

interesting..

Ask a Sikh about WAHEGURU.. even NON-Sikhs know!!!

Jesus tried, Guru Nanak Dev Ji succeeded

[crayzy]

i think i speak for everyone when i say

[tkkookar]

i didn't know that scientists have theory of saying that there is another universe .. wow .. ?? can you give me that site please

[Rajs]

Dear Singhni,

When exactly did Gurus soul merged with God? While they were alive or when dead?

Regards

Rajs

[crayzy]

Neither.

The Gurus didnt come for liberation they came to liberate.

Guru Nanaks soul is

aad sach

jugaad sach

hai bhi sach

Nanak hosi bhi sach.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji is simply the name given to body taken by God to bring back the true way so that it can be followed in Kaljug. The same light is in all Gurus and all Jeevan Mukt.

Now Gursikhs that merge with the Guru are merged with while alive.

Gurbani says,

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?Sour...D=1602&Format=2

One who remains dead while yet alive, is saved, and saves others as well.

Celebrate the Victory of the Lord; taking to His Sanctuary, the supreme status is obtained.

I am a sacrifice to the feet of the True Guru.

The Guru is the boat; through the Shabad of His Word, the terrifying world-ocean is crossed over. ||3||

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http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Page.asp?Sour...ID=129&Format=2

Embellished and immaculate is that place where the Saints gather together.

He alone finds shelter, who has met the Perfect Guru.

Nanak builds his house upon that site where there is no death, no birth, and no old age. ||4||6||76||

[ms514]

Sat Sri Akal:

"When exactly did Gurus soul merged with God? While they were alive or when dead?"

You are the Sikhism expert...you tell us...

[Jai Tegang!]

Rajs,

You're trying to sell glass beads to diamond-lovers.

Goodluck! lol!