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Ryu Hayabusa

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Balait_da_Sher

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lyKw ieko Awvhu jwhu ]1]

laekhaa eiko aavahu jaahu ||1||

According to the account of our actions, we come and go in reincarnation. ||1||

kwhy jIA krih cqurweI ]

kaahae jeea karehi chathuraaee ||

Why, O soul, do you try such clever tricks?

So, I think that some things are pre-written, such as our birthplace etc but for other actions we are responsible.

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

we all have freewill....god has given us it so that we can choose which path to take in life.you

Yes, all of us guys have free will, but only until we get married. :)

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I think that everything is prewritten by Waheguru. We can't say to Waheguru give us this and do this this way. He does everything how he wants and when he wants. So we should leave everything up to Waheguru. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

Just my 2 cents.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

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How much is prewritten and how much is free will?

I have heard that 6 things are in the hands of god or you can say Pre-Written.

Birth - Death

Sanjoag - Vijoag

Maan - Aapmaan

Besides those 6 things the rest are up to us. After i think on those 6 things, i wonder what is left in our hands?? OUr own deeds are in our hands.

As long as we r in this ego, then whatever we do we are trapped in our Karms...we suffer from our own doing, because we think we are the doer. Once the ego is gone, so is the doer (ego) and all left is no other than khuda himself. In this state of no ego, he becomes the doer and you become free of Karms. If maan is his then the aapmaan is his as well. Everything is his.

Tu Karta Karna Mai Nahi, Ja Hu Kari Na hoyee.

As for Free Will

This will help explaining

You ask: Does God exist? How can there be so much evil and corruption in the world if God exists?

God is a mythical word, a mumbo-jumbo word that is the invention of the priesthood. Actually, to ask whether God exists is absurd. For those who know, God is existence, or existence is God.

Things exist, not God. A chair exists because

a chair can go into nonexistence. To say that the chair exists is meaningful because its nonexistence is possible.

God is existence, the very isness. When we say God exists we create something out of the word God, then God becomes a thing. But God is not a thing, nor is God a person. That is why you cannot make him responsible for anything. Responsibility only comes when there is a personality, when there is someone who can be responsible.

God is not a person, he is pure existence. The word is misleading because the word personifies. It is better to use the word existence. The totality of existence is God.

So it cannot be asked whether God exists. That is like asking whether existence exists. Put this way—whether existence exists—the question becomes absurd. Obviously existence exists; there is no question about it. The question cannot even exist if there is no existence, nor can the questioner.

I would like to make it clear that when I say God, I mean existence as such. God is not a thing among other things, God is total thingness. To say that the table exists is the same as saying that the table is God. To say that you exist is the same as saying that you are God. God is the existence. God is isness, the quality of isness, the quality of existence

A Muslim friend came to visit me. This was his question too. He said, "The biggest question I feel is that if God is, then why is the world so evil?" He is right, because there can be no relationship between God and evil. How can there be?

I told him, "Let us remove all evil from the world for a moment. Can you visualize what the world will be like then?" The moment you remove evil, the good also disappears from the scene. Good cannot exist on its own. It is because of evil that good exists. Remove darkness and light disappears together with it. Light exists because of darkness. Remove the cold, and the heat is automatically lost. Heat and cold are different variations of the same thing. If we try to remove death, life t

oo will be lost. If there is no death, how can life be? Or, if there is no life, how can death be?

The universe exists with the help of polar opposites. The world's existence is brought about by the music between opposites. If the opposite is removed, both are removed. Remove the male, and the female is lost. Remove old age, and youth is lost. The young person always wishes to prolong his youth because he does not know that youth and old age are so closely combined that if one is removed, the other is lost. We all wish ugliness to be removed from the world; but if ugliness is lost, beauty will also disappear. If you wish for a world without ugliness, be prepared to face a world where nothing is beautiful.

I told my friend, "If you wish for a world where evil is banned, good will flee from such a place immediately. Then this world will be a big prison house; because where there is no freedom to do evil, there can be no freedom at all.

In fact, the word "freedom" contains the freedom to do evil also. If a man is told that he is free only to be good, what meaning does such a freedom convey? This freedom has no meaning. Rather, it implies bondage. It would be proper to say; you are condemned to be good—not free to be good. When we tell a person he is free to be good, the freedom to be evil enters along with the freedom to be good. God is the totality and yet he does not control anything. This means that God creates, but He creates freedom.

A man is free to be good and free to be bad—as bad as he wishes—when God is the Lord of everything. This is because true freedom exists only if there is freedom to do what one wishes, be it good or bad. When no such freedom exists, man is not man but a machine which does whatever it is made to do because it is insentient.

Man is sentient; he possesses consciousness. Consciousness is not possible without freedom. way204

For tantra, everything is holy.

One Christian missionary was with me a few days ago and he said, "God

created the world."

So I asked him, "Who created sin?"

He said, "The devil."

Then I asked him, "Who created the devil?"

Then he was at a loss. He said, "Of course, God created the devil."

The devil creates sin and God creates the devil. Then who is the real sinner—the devil or God? But the dualist conception always leads to such absurdities. For tantra God and the devil are not two. Really, for tantra there is nothing that can be called "devil", everything is divine, everything is holy. And this seems to be the right standpoint, the deepest. If anything is unholy in this world, from where does it come and how can it be? vbt02

People come and ask me whether their fate is determined. They are asking whether they are so important, so significant for this universe that their fate must be determined beforehand. "What is my purpose?" they ask. "Why was I created?" This childhood nonsense that you are the center creates these questions like, "For what purpose am I created?"

You are not created for any purpose. And it is good that you are not created for any purpose; otherwise you would be a machine. A machine is created for some purpose. Man is not created for some purpose, for something—no! Man is just the outflowing, overflowing creation. Everything simply is. Flowers are there and stars are there and you are there. Everything is just an overflowing, a joy, a celebration of existence without any purpose….

Try to understand it. Because our minds are fixed, we take things as theories, not as devices. So many times people come to me and say, "One day you said this is right, and another day you said that is right, and both cannot be right." Of course both cannot be right, but no one is saying that both are right. I am not concerned at all with which is right and which is wrong. I am only concerned with which device works.

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

our answer is clear in Guru Nanak's Jap Ji Sahib

Aapey Beej Aapey Hee Khaho -- Nanak Hukami Avho Jaaho

You'll reap what you sow, but birth and death are God's divine Hukam... We can't control that.

honestly, i think all of our problems are self-created

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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

We must try to understand karam philosophy to answer most of our and other people queries... Though many naam abhyaasi singhs who have understood karam philosophy with HIS kirpa by naam abhyaas don't share much but some singhs have written some things which can be too complex but if we try to understand... it will help.

P.S. - only read a book written by some naam abhyaasi or rehat obeying gursikh coz lot of other people wrote weird things also...

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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MokhamSingh

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Raja Janmeja was told beforehand, by his Guru, why he would suffer from leprosy. He was told exactly what not do to do, in order to avoid leprosy.

Janmeja rejoiced at the opportunity of being told, what not to do, in order to avoid contracting leprosy.

Despite being forewarned, Janjema gave in to temptation, and did exactly what he was told to avoid. Janjema succumbed to kaam, krodh, and hankaar.

This story is written in the ancient Sanskrit Puranas. Guru Gobind Singh Maharajh has done the ulatha of this, in Gurmukhi, and is contained in Gyan Parbodh Bani...

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