General Question

[PuNjaBan]

What happens to those who don't do any paath/naam simram?

odai, just wondering .. any views/ideas? Thx

[Khalsa4ever]

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

No meditiation, no contemplation of God means they don't realize God, nor do they come to understand God.

They live a life of ignorance...

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

[KFI]

gauVI mhlw 5 ]

gourree mehalaa 5 ||

Gauree, Fifth Mehla:

imlu myry goibMd Apnw nwmu dyhu ]

mil maerae gobi(n)dh apanaa naam dhaehu ||

Meet me, O my Lord of the Universe. Please bless me with Your Name.

nwm ibnw iDRgu iDRgu Asnyhu ]1] rhwau ]

naam binaa dhhrig dhhrig asanaehu ||1|| rehaao ||

Without the Naam, the Name of the Lord, cursed, cursed is love and intimacy. ||1||Pause||

nwm ibnw jo pihrY Kwie ]

naam binaa jo pehirai khaae ||

Without the Naam, one who dresses and eats well

ijau kUkru jUTn mih pwie ]1]

jio kookar joot(h)an mehi paae ||1||

is like a dog, who falls in and eats impure foods. ||1||

nwm ibnw jyqw ibauhwru ] ijau imrqk imiQAw sIgwru ]2]

naam binaa jaethaa biouhaar || jio mirathak mithhiaa seegaar ||2||

Without the Naam, all occupations are useless, like decorations on a dead body. ||2||

nwmu ibswir kry rs Bog ]

naam bisaar karae ras bhog ||

One who forgets the Naam and indulges in pleasures,

suKu supnY nhI qn mih rog ]3]

sukh supanai nehee than mehi rog ||3||

shall find no peace, even in dreams; his body shall become diseased. ||3||

nwmu iqAwig kry An kwj ]

naam thiaag karae an kaaj ||

One who renounces the Naam and engages in other occupations,

ibnis jwie JUTy siB pwj ]4]

binas jaae jhoot(h)ae sabh paaj ||4||

shall see all of his false pretenses fall away. ||4||

nwm sMig min pRIiq n lwvY ]

naam sa(n)g man preeth n laavai ||

One whose mind does not embrace love for the Naam

koit krm krqo nrik jwvY ]5]

kott karam karatho narak jaavai ||5||

shall go to hell, even though he may perform millions of ceremonial rituals. ||5||

hir kw nwmu ijin min n AwrwDw ]

har kaa naam jin man n aaraadhhaa ||

One whose mind does not contemplate the Name of the Lord

cor kI inAweI jm puir bwDw ]6]

chor kee niaaee jam pur baadhhaa ||6||

is bound like a thief, in the City of Death. ||6||

lwK AfMbr bhuqu ibsQwrw ]

laakh adda(n)bar bahuth bisathhaaraa ||

Hundreds of thousands of ostentatious shows and great expanses

nwm ibnw JUTy pwswrw ]7]

naam binaa jhoot(h)ae paasaaraa ||7||

- without the Naam, all these displays are false. ||7||

hir kw nwmu soeI jnu lyie ]

har kaa naam soee jan laee ||

That humble being repeats the Name of the Lord,

kir ikrpw nwnk ijsu dyie ]8]10]

kar kirapaa naanak jis dhaee ||8||10||

O Nanak, whom the Lord blesses with His Mercy. ||8||10||

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ibnu ismrn jYsy srp AwrjwrI ]

bin simaran jaisae sarap aarajaaree ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one's life is like that of a snake.

iqau jIvih swkq nwmu ibswrI ]1]

thio jeevehi saakath naam bisaaree ||1||

This is how the faithless cynic lives, forgetting the Naam, the Name of the Lord. ||1||

eyk inmK jo ismrn mih jIAw ]

eaek nimakh jo simaran mehi jeeaa ||

One who lives in meditative remembrance, even for an instant,

koit idns lwK sdw iQru QIAw ]1] rhwau ]

kott dhinas laakh sadhaa thhir thheeaa ||1|| rehaao ||

lives for hundreds of thousands and millions of days, and becomes stable forever. ||1||Pause||

ibnu ismrn iDRgu krm krws ]

bin simaran dhhrig karam karaas ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one's actions and works are cursed.

kwg bqn ibstw mih vws ]2]

kaag bathan bisattaa mehi vaas ||2||

Like the crow's beak, he dwells in manure. ||2||

ibnu ismrn Bey kUkr kwm ]

bin simaran bheae kookar kaam ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one acts like a dog.

swkq bysuAw pUq innwm ]3]

saakath baesuaa pooth ninaam ||3||

The faithless cynic is nameless, like the prostitute's son. ||3||

ibnu ismrn jYsy sI| Cqwrw ]

bin simaran jaisae seen(g) shhathaaraa ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one is like a horned ram.

bolih kUru swkq muKu kwrw ]4]

bolehi koor saakath mukh kaaraa ||4||

The faithless cynic barks out his lies, and his face is blackened. ||4||

ibnu ismrn grDB kI inAweI ]

bin simaran garadhhabh kee niaaee ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one is like a donkey.

swkq Qwn Birst iPrwhI ]5]

saakath thhaan bharisatt firaahee ||5||

The faithless cynic wanders around in polluted places. ||5||

ibnu ismrn kUkr hrkwieAw ]

bin simaran kookar harakaaeiaa ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, one is like a mad dog.

swkq loBI bMDu n pwieAw ]6]

saakath lobhee ba(n)dhh n paaeiaa ||6||

The greedy, faithless cynic falls into entanglements. ||6||

ibnu ismrn hY Awqm GwqI ]

bin simaran hai aatham ghaathee ||

Without meditating in remembrance on the Lord, he murders his own soul.

swkq nIc iqsu kulu nhI jwqI ]7]

saakath neech this kul nehee jaathee ||7||

The faithless cynic is wretched, without family or social standing. ||7||

ijsu BieAw ik®pwlu iqsu sqsMig imlwieAw ]

jis bhaeiaa kirapaal this sathasa(n)g milaaeiaa ||

When the Lord becomes merciful, one joins the Sat Sangat, the True Congregation.

khu nwnk guir jgqu qrwieAw ]8]7]

kahu naanak gur jagath tharaaeiaa ||8||7||

Says Nanak, the Guru has saved the world. ||8||7||

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<> siqgur pRswid ]

ik oa(n)kaar sathigur prasaadh ||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

rwgu Awsw mhlw 9 ]

raag aasaa mehalaa 9 ||

Raag Aasaa, Ninth Mehla:

ibrQw khau kaun isau mn kI ]

birathhaa keho koun sio man kee ||

Who should I tell the condition of the mind?

loiB gRisE ds hU ids Dwvq Awsw lwigE Dn kI ]1] rhwau ]

lobh grasiou dhas hoo dhis dhhaavath aasaa laagiou dhhan kee ||1|| rehaao ||

Engrossed in greed, running around in the ten directions, you hold to your hopes of wealth. ||1||Pause||

suK kY hyiq bhuqu duKu pwvq syv krq jn jn kI ]

sukh kai haeth bahuth dhukh paavath saev karath jan jan kee ||

For the sake of pleasure, you suffer such great pain, and you have to serve each and every person.

duAwrih duAwir suAwn ijau folq nh suD rwm Bjn kI ]1]

dhuaarehi dhuaar suaan jio ddolath neh sudhh raam bhajan kee ||1||

You wander from door to door like a dog, unconscious of the Lord's meditation. ||1||

mwns jnm AkwrQ Kovq lwj n lok hsn kI ]

maanas janam akaarathh khovath laaj n lok hasan kee ||

You lose this human life in vain, and You are not even ashamed when others laugh at you.

nwnk hir jsu ikau nhI gwvq kumiq ibnwsY qn kI ]2]1]233]

naanak har jas kio nehee gaavath kumath binaasai than kee ||2||1||233||

O Nanak, why not sing the Lord's Praises, so that you may be rid of the body's evil disposition? ||2||1||233||

[Revolutionary]

What happens to those who don't do any paath/naam simram?

odai, just wondering .. any views/ideas? Thx

A life full of giving into temptation/weak-mindedness..

With no real goal to live for

With empty dreams

[PuNjaBan]

Thank you for sharing. Not sure what I’m in search of, thanks for the Shabads - I firmly believe in all that. I know the answer to my question – those who don’t simply lose their chances of meeting the Chief. Doesn't appear to be promising at times on the flip side. Would be nice to have more replies, take any approach ... whether from SGGS, personal, what have you..

[rimmel]

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[PuNjaBan]

moot paleet kapre hoy

de sabun la ye oh dhoy

bharia mat papa ke sang

oh dopai navaeke rang

I think that's the one you are referring to.

[rimmel]

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[raju123]

can i say u burn in hell..............

but i reall think is

No meditiation, no contemplation of God means they don't realize God, nor do they come to understand God.

They live a life of ignorance...

thatk you khalsa4ever.

[PuNjaBan]

Yup thats it. Btw just wondering which site people getting the fancy translation from.

Here is one: http://www.sikh.net/SIKHISM/Gurbani/Gurbani.htm

Translation for the one above:

mUq plIqI kpVu hoie ]

mooth paleethee kaparr hoe ||

When the clothes are soiled and stained by urine,

12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev

dy swbUxu leIAY Ehu Doie ]

dhae saaboon leeai ouhu dhhoe ||

soap can wash them clean.

12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev

BrIAY miq pwpw kY sMig ]

bhareeai math paapaa kai sang ||

But when the intellect is stained and polluted by sin,

12 Jap Guru Nanak Dev

Ehu DopY nwvY kY rMig ]

ouhu dhhopai naavai kai rang ||

it can only be cleansed by the Love of the Name.

http://searchgurbani.com/main.php?book=sri...page&page=4