Accepting Roti From Sehajdhari Mother

[Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA]

The word Bibayk speaks of being Aware, Intuitiveness, Contemplativeness, having Bibayk Budhi (intellect). Being aware of God conciousness. Having the intuitivness of God Awareness, understanding.

In other words with this issue do people think that in the Gurdwara needs to be the correct way? Or will people pretend to not know."Are people aware of this"???????? Do they "contemplate this???? Or anything???? When we speak of eating habits of an Amritdari then we must understand that it all has to do with getting the presence of God within the body and not with taste etc

[Guest s133k_s1kh]

BIBEK DHAN Pay attention to Ardas for once!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We need all Gurdwaras to have steel eating utensils and Amritdari Langar sevadars.

FATEH!!

Steel is not SARBLOH..is it ?

Bhul Chuk Maaf

[Hardeep__singh]

The word Bibayk speaks of being Aware, Intuitiveness, Contemplativeness, having Bibayk Budhi (intellect). Being aware of God conciousness. Having the intuitivness of God Awareness, understanding.

In other words with this issue do people think that in the Gurdwara needs to be the correct way? Or will people pretend to not know."Are people aware of this"???????? Do they "contemplate this???? Or anything???? When we speak of eating habits of an Amritdari then we must understand that it all has to do with getting the presence of God within the body and not with taste etc

Have you forgot the time Guru Sahib Drew blood from one roti and Milk in the other, its not matter of amritdhari or not, it matter about "truthfulness", kamai! An amritdhari may perhaps well be amritdhari, but does he have kamai?

Here is teh sakhi:

Guru Nanak who on one of his travels preferred to share a meal in the abode of a poor man's hut instead of the mighty king's lavish meal. The offended king ordered that the Guru be brought to his mansion by force. He then asked him why he chose the poor man Lalo's meal and not his sumptuous table. At that the Guru asked for sweets from the rich man's kitchen. He then squeezed the sweets and the dry crust of bread from Lalo's kitchen which he had brought along - he drew blood from the one and from the other, drops of milk fell. The rich man's meal was the sweat and blood of the poor people. Bhago, the rich man became contrite, promising to spend the rest of his days serving the poor.

In the passage of time, the significance of sharing a meal is a cornerstone of Sikh hospitality. As travellers, the Gurus may have appreciated the value of a simple meal offered on their journeys which may have the beginnings of the free langar at the temples.

Bhagati, honest living, pure heart, giving to charity etc counts more and even more if you are Amritdhari.

[Guest s133k_s1kh]

Have you forgot the time Guru Sahib Drew blood from one roti and Milk in the other, its not matter of amritdhari or not, it matter about "truthfulness", kamai! An amritdhari may perhaps well be amritdhari, but does he have kamai?

Here is teh sakhi:

Guru Nanak who on one of his travels preferred to share a meal in the abode of a poor man's hut instead of the mighty king's lavish meal. The offended king ordered that the Guru be brought to his mansion by force. He then asked him why he chose the poor man Lalo's meal and not his sumptuous table. At that the Guru asked for sweets from the rich man's kitchen. He then squeezed the sweets and the dry crust of bread from Lalo's kitchen which he had brought along - he drew blood from the one and from the other, drops of milk fell. The rich man's meal was the sweat and blood of the poor people. Bhago, the rich man became contrite, promising to spend the rest of his days serving the poor.

In the passage of time, the significance of sharing a meal is a cornerstone of Sikh hospitality. As travellers, the Gurus may have appreciated the value of a simple meal offered on their journeys which may have the beginnings of the free langar at the temples.

Bhagati, honest living, pure heart, giving to charity etc counts more and even more if you are Amritdhari.

FATEH!!!

Well said.

[Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA]

The word Bibayk speaks of being Aware, Intuitiveness, Contemplativeness, having Bibayk Budhi (intellect). Being aware of God conciousness. Having the intuitivness of God Awareness, understanding.

In other words with this issue do people think that in the Gurdwara needs to be the correct way? Or will people pretend to not know."Are people aware of this"???????? Do they "contemplate this???? Or anything???? When we speak of eating habits of an Amritdari then we must understand that it all has to do with getting the presence of God within the body and not with taste etc

Have you forgot the time Guru Sahib Drew blood from one roti and Milk in the other, its not matter of amritdhari or not, it matter about "truthfulness", kamai! An amritdhari may perhaps well be amritdhari, but does he have kamai?

Here is teh sakhi:

Guru Nanak who on one of his travels preferred to share a meal in the abode of a poor man's hut instead of the mighty king's lavish meal. The offended king ordered that the Guru be brought to his mansion by force. He then asked him why he chose the poor man Lalo's meal and not his sumptuous table. At that the Guru asked for sweets from the rich man's kitchen. He then squeezed the sweets and the dry crust of bread from Lalo's kitchen which he had brought along - he drew blood from the one and from the other, drops of milk fell. The rich man's meal was the sweat and blood of the poor people. Bhago, the rich man became contrite, promising to spend the rest of his days serving the poor.

In the passage of time, the significance of sharing a meal is a cornerstone of Sikh hospitality. As travellers, the Gurus may have appreciated the value of a simple meal offered on their journeys which may have the beginnings of the free langar at the temples.

Bhagati, honest living, pure heart, giving to charity etc counts more and even more if you are Amritdhari.

So does Guru Gobind Singhs hukams have zero effect?????

When Guru Nanak the 10th came to be the rules were defined to the highest order of command.

So in other words dont listen to rehatnama but only from you take orders about what and how to eat?????

Since that happened in the 1st Nanak it will have to happen with all of the Jyoti Gurus????????

Manmat is a ocean flooding the land in this age of Kaljug.

[Hardeep__singh]

The word Bibayk speaks of being Aware, Intuitiveness, Contemplativeness, having Bibayk Budhi (intellect). Being aware of God conciousness. Having the intuitivness of God Awareness, understanding.

In other words with this issue do people think that in the Gurdwara needs to be the correct way? Or will people pretend to not know."Are people aware of this"???????? Do they "contemplate this???? Or anything???? When we speak of eating habits of an Amritdari then we must understand that it all has to do with getting the presence of God within the body and not with taste etc

Have you forgot the time Guru Sahib Drew blood from one roti and Milk in the other, its not matter of amritdhari or not, it matter about "truthfulness", kamai! An amritdhari may perhaps well be amritdhari, but does he have kamai?

Here is teh sakhi:

Guru Nanak who on one of his travels preferred to share a meal in the abode of a poor man's hut instead of the mighty king's lavish meal. The offended king ordered that the Guru be brought to his mansion by force. He then asked him why he chose the poor man Lalo's meal and not his sumptuous table. At that the Guru asked for sweets from the rich man's kitchen. He then squeezed the sweets and the dry crust of bread from Lalo's kitchen which he had brought along - he drew blood from the one and from the other, drops of milk fell. The rich man's meal was the sweat and blood of the poor people. Bhago, the rich man became contrite, promising to spend the rest of his days serving the poor.

In the passage of time, the significance of sharing a meal is a cornerstone of Sikh hospitality. As travellers, the Gurus may have appreciated the value of a simple meal offered on their journeys which may have the beginnings of the free langar at the temples.

Bhagati, honest living, pure heart, giving to charity etc counts more and even more if you are Amritdhari.

So does Guru Gobind Singhs hukams have zero effect?????

When Guru Nanak the 10th came to be the rules were defined to the highest order of command.

So in other words dont listen to rehatnama but only from you take orders about what and how to eat?????

Since that happened in the 1st Nanak it will have to happen with all of the Jyoti Gurus????????

Manmat is a ocean flooding the land in this age of Kaljug.

Pritam Veera, I for one wont go in deeper I will let you research Read Gurbani, its out last Guru!

Fateh.

[Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA]

iqsu ivxu sBu ApivqRü hY jyqw pYnxu Kwxu ]

this vin sabh apavithra hai jaethaa painan khaan ||

Without Him, all that we wear and eat is impure.

4 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev

hoir glW siB kUVIAw quDu BwvY prvwxu ]4]5]

hor galaan sabh koorreeaa thudhh bhaavai paravaan ||4||5||

Everything else is false. Whatever pleases Your Will is acceptable. ||4||5||

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CqIh AMimRq Bwau eyku jw kau ndir kryie ]1]

shhatheeh anmrith bhaao eaek jaa ko nadhar karaee ||1||

The thirty-six flavors of ambrosial nectar are in the Love of the One Lord; they are tasted only by one who is blessed by His Glance of Grace. ||1||

13 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev

bwbw horu Kwxw KusI KuAwru ]

baabaa hor khaanaa khusee khuaar ||

O Baba, the pleasures of other foods are false.

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Please forgive me if I have mistated anything from my opinion. If I am wrong please help me with these specific Gurbani tuks within Ang 16 of SGGS.

Eat food with Amrit within. Amritdaris preparing and serving the meal retains the Amrit inside the food. All other food without Amrit are false and you should not eat it.

anyone else have any input pro or con..................

[Guest Papi]

sUqku ikau kir rKIAY sUqku pvY rsoie ]

soothak kio kar rakheeai soothak pavai rasoe ||

How can it be protected from impurity? It touches our own kitchen.

nwnk sUqku eyv n auqrY igAwnu auqwry Doie ]1]

naanak soothak eaev n outharai giaan outhaarae dhhoe ||1||

O Nanak, impurity cannot be removed in this way; it is washed away only by spiritual wisdom. ||1||

mÚ 1 ]

ma 1 ||

First Mehla:

mn kw sUqku loBu hY ijhvw sUqku kUVu ]

man kaa soothak lobh hai jihavaa soothak koorr ||

The impurity of the mind is greed, and the impurity of the tongue is falsehood.

AKI sUqku vyKxw pr iqRA pr Dn rUpu ]

akhee soothak vaekhanaa par thria par dhhan roop ||

The impurity of the eyes is to gaze upon the beauty of another man's wife, and his wealth.

kMnI sUqku kMin pY lwieqbwrI Kwih ]

ka(n)nee soothak ka(n)n pai laaeithabaaree khaahi ||

The impurity of the ears is to listen to the slander of others.

nwnk hMsw AwdmI bDy jm puir jwih ]2]

naanak ha(n)saa aadhamee badhhae jam pur jaahi ||2||

O Nanak, the mortal's soul goes, bound and gagged to the city of Death. ||2||

[Hardeep__singh]

iqsu ivxu sBu ApivqRü hY jyqw pYnxu Kwxu ]

this vin sabh apavithra hai jaethaa painan khaan ||

Without Him, all that we wear and eat is impure.

4 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev

hoir glW siB kUVIAw quDu BwvY prvwxu ]4]5]

hor galaan sabh koorreeaa thudhh bhaavai paravaan ||4||5||

Everything else is false. Whatever pleases Your Will is acceptable. ||4||5||

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CqIh AMimRq Bwau eyku jw kau ndir kryie ]1]

shhatheeh anmrith bhaao eaek jaa ko nadhar karaee ||1||

The thirty-six flavors of ambrosial nectar are in the Love of the One Lord; they are tasted only by one who is blessed by His Glance of Grace. ||1||

13 Sriraag Guru Nanak Dev

bwbw horu Kwxw KusI KuAwru ]

baabaa hor khaanaa khusee khuaar ||

O Baba, the pleasures of other foods are false.

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Please forgive me if I have mistated anything from my opinion. If I am wrong please help me with these specific Gurbani tuks within Ang 16 of SGGS.

Eat food with Amrit within. Amritdaris preparing and serving the meal retains the Amrit inside the food. All other food without Amrit are false and you should not eat it.

anyone else have any input pro or con..................

Waheguru, I like the Gurbani, however Pritam veer ji its a person who prepares the food with "NAAM" that tastes good and my beloved Pritam, Amrit which refers to "NAAM" pre 10th Master, so only NAAM thats gone in making the food will prevail, only FALSE food will be rejected.

sUqku ikau kir rKIAY sUqku pvY rsoie ]

soothak kio kar rakheeai soothak pavai rasoe ||

How can it be protected from impurity? It touches our own kitchen.

nwnk sUqku eyv n auqrY igAwnu auqwry Doie ]1]

naanak soothak eaev n outharai giaan outhaarae dhhoe ||1||

O Nanak, impurity cannot be removed in this way; it is washed away only by spiritual wisdom. ||1||

mÚ 1 ]

ma 1 ||

First Mehla:

mn kw sUqku loBu hY ijhvw sUqku kUVu ]

man kaa soothak lobh hai jihavaa soothak koorr ||

The impurity of the mind is greed, and the impurity of the tongue is falsehood.

AKI sUqku vyKxw pr iqRA pr Dn rUpu ]

akhee soothak vaekhanaa par thria par dhhan roop ||

The impurity of the eyes is to gaze upon the beauty of another man's wife, and his wealth.

kMnI sUqku kMin pY lwieqbwrI Kwih ]

ka(n)nee soothak ka(n)n pai laaeithabaaree khaahi ||

The impurity of the ears is to listen to the slander of others.

nwnk hMsw AwdmI bDy jm puir jwih ]2]

naanak ha(n)saa aadhamee badhhae jam pur jaahi ||2||

O Nanak, the mortal's soul goes, bound and gagged to the city of Death. ||2||

Veer ji, waheguru, very true!

[Guest PRITAM SINGH KHALSA]

sUqku ikau kir rKIAY sUqku pvY rsoie ]

soothak kio kar rakheeai soothak pavai rasoe ||

How can it be protected from impurity? It touches our own kitchen.

nwnk sUqku eyv n auqrY igAwnu auqwry Doie ]1]

naanak soothak eaev n outharai giaan outhaarae dhhoe ||1||

O Nanak, impurity cannot be removed in this way; it is washed away only by spiritual wisdom. ||1||

mÚ 1 ]

ma 1 ||

First Mehla:

mn kw sUqku loBu hY ijhvw sUqku kUVu ]

man kaa soothak lobh hai jihavaa soothak koorr ||

The impurity of the mind is greed, and the impurity of the tongue is falsehood.

AKI sUqku vyKxw pr iqRA pr Dn rUpu ]

akhee soothak vaekhanaa par thria par dhhan roop ||

The impurity of the eyes is to gaze upon the beauty of another man's wife, and his wealth.

kMnI sUqku kMin pY lwieqbwrI Kwih ]

ka(n)nee soothak ka(n)n pai laaeithabaaree khaahi ||

The impurity of the ears is to listen to the slander of others.

nwnk hMsw AwdmI bDy jm puir jwih ]2]

naanak ha(n)saa aadhamee badhhae jam pur jaahi ||2||

O Nanak, the mortal's soul goes, bound and gagged to the city of Death. ||2||

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