Sachkhand?

[$ingh $oorma]

Khalsa Ji,

I was thinking who first came up with the idea of Sachkhand, Where it originated? Where it is according to sikhs (If it is something)? If it is why isn't it mentioned at all in guru granth sahib ji, if i'm not wrong?

[Guest Papi]

read jupji sahib, sachkhand is mentioned there.

sc KMif vsY inrMkwru ]

sach kha(n)dd vasai nira(n)kaar ||

In the realm of Truth, the Formless Lord abides.

kir kir vyKY ndir inhwl ]

kar kar vaekhai nadhar nihaal ||

Having created the creation, He watches over it. By His Glance of Grace, He bestows happiness.

iqQY KMf mMfl vrBMf ]

thithhai kha(n)dd ma(n)ddal varabha(n)dd ||

There are planets, solar systems and galaxies.

jy ko kQY q AMq n AMq ]

jae ko kathhai th a(n)th n a(n)th ||

If one speaks of them, there is no limit, no end.

iqQY loA loA Awkwr ]

thithhai loa loa aakaar ||

There are worlds upon worlds of His Creation.

ijv ijv hukmu iqvY iqv kwr ]

jiv jiv hukam thivai thiv kaar ||

As He commands, so they exist.

vyKY ivgsY kir vIcwru ]

vaekhai vigasai kar veechaar ||

He watches over all, and contemplating the creation, He rejoices.

nwnk kQnw krVw swru ]37]

naanak kathhanaa kararraa saar ||37||

O Nanak, to describe this is as hard as steel! ||37||

[$ingh $oorma]

Not the sachkhand from japji sahib, i mean the other that people mention for eg: when they say guru ji went to take bath in river he went up in sky to sachkhand.. etc..

I'm asking for "material" sachkhand..

[Singhstah]

VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh!!

The Sachkhand guroo sahib talks about in Jap Ji Sahib is the material Sachkhand. Read this great article about all the khands guroo sahib talks about.

"Author: Kulbir Singh

Date: 08-18-03 07:53

Someone mentioned that Khands are merely spiritual states and not actual realms where Bhagats reside. According to Gurbani (Siri Jap jee Sahib) there are 5 khands above our place of dwelling i.e. this world including solar system and other stars we see.

DHARAM KHAND

Pauri 34 of Siri Jap jee Sahib explains Dharam Khand. This is the khand where our soul goes to after death. This is where Dharam Rai is stationed. Almost every religion explains this khand in some form or the other. This Khand is huge and this is where heavens and hells are. Dharam Rai has an army of millions and millions jammdoots who control the whole Dharam Khand. Siri Jap jee Sahib summarizes this Khand as follows:

There are countless seasons, waters, fires, fires and low-lands like Pataal. Amidst such wide variety of things is the land of Dharam Khand. There countless kind of creatures reside. These creatures are there suffering punishments or getting rewarded for their good deeds. Everybody is judged according to their deeds done on Karam Bhoomi (our Earth or likes of it). The darbar of Dharam Rai is based on truth. Panch Jan i.e. the accepted Gursikhs get recognition and respect there. Such Gursikhs are recognised by the nishaan (symbol, or mark) on their forehead that appears as we do bhagtee of True Naam. All this may seem like fiction here but once we get there, we will realize how true it is (Nanak, Gaiyaan jaapai jaaye).

GYAAN KHAND

No matter who one is, everyone has to come to Dharam Khand. Gursikhs go there as well as Manmukhs. The difference is that when the Gursikhs arrive there, no record of them is found there and because of the divine mark on their forehead, they are very well respected there. Manmukhs on the other hand get stiff punishments there and are sent to hell and thereafter back to earth to go through the 8.4 million forms, depending on their karma.

Gursikhs and other good people who are above heaven move on to the next khand i.e. Gyaan Khand. This is a very huge Khand and references to this Khand too are found in various religious books. This is where most of the prophets and saints of other religions fall.

The ones who worship Siri Krishna, Vishnu jee, Shiv jee, and Mohammadans etc. fall in this Khand. This is where Baikunth i.e. residing place of Siri Krishna and his devotees, Buddha, and other great religious leaders are. This place is very beautiful and there are countless Krishna, Shiv jees, Buddhas there. The bhagats like Dhru reside in this Khand. This Khand is very great Khand and only fortunate ones reach here. The only drawback is that the residents of this Khand are not eternal. When Vaheguru takes back his creation, this Khand gets destroyed.

SHARAM KHAND, KARAM KHAND AND SACH KHAND

This is the third Khand and hereon it is impossible to describe the Khands. Sharam Khand and the two Khands above this i.e. Karam Khand and Sach Khand are beyond description. One thing is for sure that the way we are today, we cannot comprehend anything there in Sharam Khand. For this reason when one reaches this Khand, one gets new senses, mind, intelligence and surti. The reason is that with old senses and mann, budh, we cannot comprehend anything there. Sharam Khand is essential for Bhagats before they can enter Karam Khand and Sach Khand. Sharam Khand is like prep Khand for entering Karam Khand and Sach Khand. This Khand is extremely beautiful. Everything there is just too beautiful to describe. Guru Sahib just says that no one should bother to describe anything there as it would be futile and such person who tries to say anything about this Khand have to regret.

Karam Khand and Sach Khand exist in such fashion as a house and varaandaah exist. Varaandah is like the outskirts of a house but within the boundery of the property. Normally the top of the varandaah is ceiling. From Karam Khand one can view the inside of the house and know what is going on inside but can’t go inside. There is immense Anand (Bliss) in this Khand. Only real warriors who have subdued all bikaars can enter this Khand. This Khand – Karam Khand is accessible mostly to Gursikhs of Guru Nanak Dev jee but some rare ones who do kamaayee of Kirtam Naam (qualitative names like Raam, Gobind etc.) and give their best shot to it, but are not Gursikhs of Guru Nanak can reach Karam Khand. Both Karam Khand and Sach Khand are eternal Khands.

Sachkhand is accessible only to Gursikhs. There Vaheguru resides in comprehensible form to Gursikhs. Gursikhs stay absorbed in the bliss of Darshan of Vaheguru. Sach Khand is huge and the whole creation including other 4 Khands are within Sach Khand. Sach Khand surrounds the whole creation and is inside the whole creation. In essence Sach Khand is Vaheguru himself. In Sach Khand, the bhagats don’t lose their identity. The Ten Gurus occupy the top position along with Vaheguru. It is futile to write anything about it. Guru Nanak Sahib has written that to describe Sach Khand is like chewing iron (Nanak, Kathna KaraRaa Saar).

Dasam Duaar is a shortcut to Sach Khand. It is like a door to Sach Khand. Sitting here, one can have all the Anand of Sach Khand and know what is going on there."

[Revolutionary]

Not the sachkhand from japji sahib, i mean the other that people mention for eg: when they say guru ji went to take bath in river he went up in sky to sachkhand.. etc..

I'm asking for "material" sachkhand..

how do we know sachkhand is in the sky

Sachkhand may be the same place, but in different dimension.. we cannot contact between dimensions but take up the same place.. but much beter version..

..never know

[Bhai Sahib]

Sach Khand is a concept used by certain Babeh to make their followings believe in what they say. This is used in conjunction with the concept of Hell. For example Sach Khand is the reward that the ‘faithful’ believers will get and Hell is a threat used against those who have might have an inclining to disagree with the Baba.

[Bhai Sahib]

Sach Khand ("True World") alternatively spelt Sac Khand is the Sikh concept of Salvation or Liberation from the cycle of birth and rebirth in Samsara. It is achieved by the Guru's Grace and through meditation and Simran, remembering the Divine. The language is Punjabi. A hindu rendition would be "Sat Loka". Also apart of the cosmology of Surat Shabd Yoga (Sound Meditation) as the home of souls. It is also a room in a Gurdwara where the Guru Granth Sahib rests at night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sach_Khand

[Bhai Sahib]

God resides in Sach Khand, he resides in me, in fact he resides everywhere.

How can there be a hell when God is everywhere.

[Bhai Sahib]

Regarding Post 4, I believe that is AKJ material. Me personally I am very dubious of material that comes from that non-mainstream organisation whose founder is an alchemy believer.

[jassa]

sachkhand is palce ....

guru nanakdevji gave a name begampura .... where they come from ....

a pandit even claimed to made of map of sachkhand visited gurunanak dev jii .... and showed the map to them ... guru sahib took a new paper .... made a small map of sachkhand ... and told him eddan nahi sachkhand iddan hai ....