Khalistaann!

[KH4L1$T4N1]

FATEH ji i am new to this forum so please help me. One thing i have always noticed on these forums is people giving it the large like there some bad boy kharkoos... I have got these questions for everyone and u being my sikh brothers and sisters please reply...

1. Why do we need khalistan, wont it cause us more problems, bcuz was the khalsa guru gobind singh ji created supposed to fight for some land?

2. Why do most of the so called jathebandia on these forums gang up on nihang singhs and the dal panth?

3. Why do people on here judge each other jus because i follow one rehit and u follow another?

4. Why is there so much hatred towards people of other backrounds and religion (not mentioning any one group in particular)?

5. My last main question is, Why do people base there root of sikhi on 1984? All i ever hear is 1984 this in 1984 that, dont get me wrong im a lover of all the singhs that wer shaheed in the 70's 80's and early 90's and parnaam to them, but why every time do we hear khalistan, neverforget 1984, well what i say to all you people that jus sit there at home DWELLING on 1984 is wake up and get over it like maharaj tells us to not live in the past but live in the present , and all these people that go and hav lil fights n wear 3 foot kirpana acting n thinkin there better than others jus grow up and show some REAL nimrita not the fake <admin-profanity filter activated> nimrita were u try n cuss urself in front of 20 people but the motive of it really is u doing ur own vadiaee. Also another thing all of u people can go to a rally in hyde park, all of u can go to the gurdwara on baba thakur jis barsi but people LISTEN wher are you on the days or the gurburub of ALL our gurus, the day of remembrance of showta galugharaa and vadaa ghalugharaa, where are you of the shaheedi days of bhai mati dass, bhai sati dass, and bhai dayala ji. Therefore its a benti to all those people that jus sit there dwelling and judging on the past and mainly 1984 is to grow up and NEVERFORGET that sant jarnail singh ji, baba santa singh ji, bhai fauja singh ji and all this khalistan stuff are NOT bigger than guru maharaj and his sikhi which is for ALLLLLLLL humanity whether they sikh, amritdhari or not.

So what i say is NEVERFORGET 1699 and KHALSA PANTH ZINDABAAD (follow the way guru ji wanted us to the true way because we ARE the khalsa which is AKKAAL PURAKH so we should see everything ATLEAST TRY and see everything the way waheguru does)

GUR FATEH

1. did Guru Gobind Singh make the khalsa to be ghulaam of the bippars?

2. what has that got to do with anything? and when doe that happen?

3. again whats that got do with Khalistan? but yeh those that act like that have not understand real Sikhi, as long as there i nothing anti-Gurmat in any ones rehit then no one should judge anyone

4. no one bases Sikhi on 84. 84 was the most recent Saka if you foget that then how can even think of remembering other sakas?

[ParwinderSingh]

I never agreed to Khalistan, because it will hurt us more than it will help us. Sarpanch is sadly an Sikh extremist who argues without reason.

i dont normally do this, but this is one thing i agree with sarpanch with.

i know people may go over the top with the khalistan talk and i realise ur veiws, but we will get Khalistan as per hukam. this has been discused, u wil find all the answers if u do a search in the forum or internet.

IT wont be in the way many of us imagine but if we stop aguing and those who dont want it shall see, but dont be so negative or work against the flow its something u will come to realise.

and people shudnt fite, so calm ur passion ppl its been done b4

of corse thers mre to sikhi than 84, and those who dont know it ill develop that pyar later in life, but i think ppl go through that phase, but lets wory bout our own sikhi n do ardas,

apart from that, evrything that happens is HIS HUKAM, so we shudnt sit here saying things are gettin worse etc............our prespective doesnt matter in the end

[ParwinderSingh]

and its also funny, how the extremists on this forum dont even visit or reply in the HISTORY | ARTICLES | INSPIRATION as much as on topics of khalistan and some earthly things.

Khalistan does'nt equal Sikhi in any shape or form. You dont get power from a piece of land, you only can get power from your own good deeds. People have 101 excuses why khalistan is needed, but the excuses are just lame.....and for people who live outside punjab, if and when it would be khalistan I bet you they would'nt even live there, which would be hypocricy.

Shouting behind a computer is an easy thing to do, and I can even go to the extreme as anyone else, but doing it for real is another story. Again, to me Khalistan, a piece of land on the earth is a mere thing, its nothing, we dont want a rule on the earth, just remember Maha Singh (40 Mukhte) when he was the last person alive, but died later on fighting for Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj, Guru Ji said he can make him better and he can give him all the rule he wants and piece of land, but he said that the Sachkhand Gates wouldnt open, and insisted he doesnt want rule here on earth rather he had the Sachkhand, so Guru ji ripped up the Bandhava and sent him to Sachkhand.

Again for people who are extreme, they will never learn aka have u ever seen dogs tail straight, NO! well the same thing goes for extremists.

we dont live to worship a peace of land called khalistn or wish for a status or wish for kingdoms for ourelves, this is or the dharma.

anyone can disapprove of khalistan and make excuses which are always the same. does it matter if i dont fight and sit behind a computer........... whats gona happen will happen.......... i think ur going too far with the comments tho,

and main thing is to be spiritually awake and in rehit, and hve love for all,. we aint self minded militants or ruthless killers

we are meant to be saint soldiers

[Guest Narinder Singh]

and its also funny, how the extremists on this forum dont even visit or reply in the HISTORY | ARTICLES | INSPIRATION as much as on topics of khalistan and some earthly things.

Khalistan does'nt equal Sikhi in any shape or form. You dont get power from a piece of land, you only can get power from your own good deeds. People have 101 excuses why khalistan is needed, but the excuses are just lame.....and for people who live outside punjab, if and when it would be khalistan I bet you they would'nt even live there, which would be hypocricy.

Shouting behind a computer is an easy thing to do, and I can even go to the extreme as anyone else, but doing it for real is another story. Again, to me Khalistan, a piece of land on the earth is a mere thing, its nothing, we dont want a rule on the earth, just remember Maha Singh (40 Mukhte) when he was the last person alive, but died later on fighting for Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj, Guru Ji said he can make him better and he can give him all the rule he wants and piece of land, but he said that the Sachkhand Gates wouldnt open, and insisted he doesnt want rule here on earth rather he had the Sachkhand, so Guru ji ripped up the Bandhava and sent him to Sachkhand.

Again for people who are extreme, they will never learn aka have u ever seen dogs tail straight, NO! well the same thing goes for extremists.

Blah blah blah, the same old arguments that can be used as to why Hindustan was formed, why did the Hindus need land? Actually, you could use these arguments for every country that exists today, why dont you question them? I guess Sikhs have a different set of rules they must abide by.

And tell me this, why did Guru Sahib tell Baba Banda Singh Ji Bahadaur to go and establish Sikh raj?

Extremists, :devil:

Fateh.

[chatanga]

Nihaaal, i would recomedn that you listen to all of the speeches of Sant Jarnail Singh during the dharma yudh morcha. Then you will understand about Khalistan and the call for it. Rememeber that the issues prior to bluestar have still not been resoolved.

Its easy for you to come on this site and say blah blah blah about why do we need Khalistan. There have been Sikhs who were arrested in 1984 and are still in jails with no case against them. ITS been over 29 years now, why are they set free? What if this hapned to your father or brother? or if they were killed by the ravan sena, then would you still have the same attitude. would you still have the same attitude then? I dont think you would.

Remember the first right of all humans is freedom. We dont have it in ravan raj hindustan. period

The ghulami is still around our necks, only those who's zameer is zinda can see it.

chatanga

[Pwalla!]

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

I hate this word, KHALISTAN!

Ok Shasheed Singhs have fought for it, but thing is mahraj has blessed us so much but yet we are so narrow minded.

The word Khalisatan for me narrows the potential which the KHALSA actually have.

'Man Jite Jag Jit' Now this is what we have been offered the world, so until we don’t control our minds then we need to carry on doing the things we are doing like Amrit wela, Naam abhiyaas and Gurbani Abhiyaas keep strict Rehit, and make the place you live Khalistan, the land of the pure.

Don’t forget the KHALSA will have raaj over the world, so don’t worry about raaj lets just concentrate on our jeevan.

We are not AZAAD (free) even when we have this land we will still not be AZAAD as we are controlled by the 5 evils.

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

[Pwalla!]

'extremists'

Wasnt Guru Gobind Singh ji an Extremist?

[Guest baba amarjeet singh]

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

I hate this word, KHALISTAN!

Ok Shasheed Singhs have fought for it, but thing is mahraj has blessed us so much but yet we are so narrow minded.

The word Khalisatan for me narrows the potential which the KHALSA actually have.

'Man Jite Jag Jit' Now this is what we have been offered the world, so until we don’t control our minds then we need to carry on doing the things we are doing like Amrit wela, Naam abhiyaas and Gurbani Abhiyaas keep strict Rehit, and make the place you live Khalistan, the land of the pure.

Don’t forget the KHALSA will have raaj over the world, so don’t worry about raaj lets just concentrate on our jeevan.

We are not AZAAD (free) even when we have this land we will still not be AZAAD as we are controlled by the 5 evils.

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

what a great post

[Guest Narinder Singh]

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

I hate this word, KHALISTAN!

Ok Shasheed Singhs have fought for it, but thing is mahraj has blessed us so much but yet we are so narrow minded.

The word Khalisatan for me narrows the potential which the KHALSA actually have.

'Man Jite Jag Jit' Now this is what we have been offered the world, so until we don’t control our minds then we need to carry on doing the things we are doing like Amrit wela, Naam abhiyaas and Gurbani Abhiyaas keep strict Rehit, and make the place you live Khalistan, the land of the pure.

Don’t forget the KHALSA will have raaj over the world, so don’t worry about raaj lets just concentrate on our jeevan.

We are not AZAAD (free) even when we have this land we will still not be AZAAD as we are controlled by the 5 evils.

Waheguroo ji ka khalsa, waheguroo ji ki fateh

Dude, its not that hard to see through your fairytales and this view that everyone should be able to control their minds first (which will never really happen, who actually believes and says "ive controlled my panj chors?"), its actually the most foolish thing to believe. All you need is a few chardi kala Gursikhs to complete the mission. And how can you be content with japping naam all day when your brothers are rotting in the jails of Hindustan? Japping naam and not turning that naam into action is hypocrisy, its being selfish, and its definately not the Sikh way.

Raj all over the world? Haha, Sikhs dont even control Sri Akal Takht anymore, and youre talking about raj all over the world. Be realistic and start by setting small goals (ie; khalistan). Without political autonomy, nothing can ever be achieved, Guru Sahib told us exactly that.

Anyways, no one has seemed to explain why Guru Sahib sent Banda Singh Ji Bahadur to Punjab to establish the Sikh raj.

Fateh.

[chatanga]

Pwala

remember that to stand you need land. You seem to think that we can float around in the air or something that we dont need land. Of course we need land. Remember that the hill chiefs wanted Guru Ji to vacate Anandpur, but Guru Ji refused. Why? it was only land and Guru Ji wasnt going to take it to sachkand with him was he? Why didnt he just give up?

didnt this narrow the potential of the Sikhs? Why didnt Guru Ji just say dont worry one day we'll take the world? History tells us time and time again that land is necessary and control of it is vital. Why did the Sikh misals create Sikh rule? Why did Baba Deep Singh take control of an area in Panjab? Is your reasoning greater than Baba Ji's? or your avastha ? maybe you're right and the blessed Gursikhs are wrong?

chatanga

ps i dont hate the word hindustan, i just love the word khalistan. and also listen to the sermons of Sant Jarnail Singh to realise how the Sikhs have never received the most basic human birthright under ravan raaj hindustan, namely the right of freedom.