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I am a Amritdhari. Is it okay to make Monays as friends.

This very Kaamaaee Waley Mahapurash said where ever a Negura (non-amritdhari) goes even the land and surrounding water gets filthy and dirty.

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swDsMgiq isau sMgu n kIAw bhu jonI duKu pwvY ]

He does not join the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, and he suffers in terrible pain through countless incarnations.

swkq sMig ivkrm kmwey ]

misbehaves in the company of the wicked shaaktas, the faithless cynics;

sgl iqAwgY dust kw sMgu ]

He forsakes the company of all wicked people.

mnmuK syqI dosqI QoViVAw idn cwir ]

Friendship with the self-willed manmukhs lasts for only a few short days.

dunIAw kyrI dosqI mnmuK diJ mrMin ]

Making worldly friendships, the self-willed manmukhs burn and die.

mnmuKw kyrI dosqI mwieAw kw snbMDu ]

Friendship with the self-willed manmukhs is an alliance with Maya.

mnmuK sau kir dosqI suK ik puCih imq ]

If you make friends with the self-willed manmukhs, O friend, who can you ask for peace?

swkq isau muiK joirAY AD vIchu tUtY ]

Friendship with the faithless cynic breaks down mid-way.

kbIr swkq sMgu n kIjIAY dUrih jweIAY Bwig ] bwsnu kwro prsIAY qau kCu lwgY dwgu ]131]

Kabeer, do not associate with the faithless cynics; run far away from them. If you touch a vessel stained with soot, some of the soot will stick to you. ||131||.

gurmuK hovY swD sMg hyq n sMg kusMg n rcY]

The person having attained the status of Gurmukh in the holy congregation does not mix up with any bad company.

kubeer maaree muro kusu(n)g kee kaelae nikatt j baer ||

Kabeer, I have been ruined and destroyed by bad company, like the banana plant near the thorn bush.

swD AswD sMgq Pl pwXw ]ö]

One gets good or bad results according to the company of sadh or evildoers he keeps.

REHAT

nmr suBwv n kbhUM iqAwgy ] durjn dyK dUr qy Bwgy ]

namar subhaav n kabehoo(n) thiaagae || dhurajan dhaekh dhoor thae bhaagae ||

He never abandons humility. He forever avoids crossing paths with faithless cynics.

Rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh

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There are two things wrong with this topic. One you are assuming that just because someone is mona they are not good people. Secondly assumptions are being made that they will take you away from sikhi.

The way i see it is that, only you can pull your self away from sikhi. We choose to blame others when it is ourselves who are not strong enough. Why dont you be the one who shows the monays what sikhi is?

koaU hY myro swjnu mIqu ]

kooo hai maero saajan meeth ||

Is there any friend or companion of mine,

hir nwmu sunwvY nIq ]

har naam sunaavai neeth ||

who will constantly share the Lord's Name with me?

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wen the mahapurash sed none amritdhari he must of ment amrit in the sense of the sweet nextar of naam and those who r not absorbed in naam. if he ment amritdhari in the baptised sense then that mahapurash's opinion wud not be sum1s that i wud be interested in. remember nirvair - god has enmity towards none, so god has no favoured ppl, we r all his creation and he nutures all.

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There are two things wrong with this topic. One you are assuming that just because someone is mona they are not good people. Secondly assumptions are being made that they will take you away from sikhi.

The way i see it is that, only you can pull your self away from sikhi. We choose to blame others when it is ourselves who are not strong enough. Why dont you be the one who shows the monays what sikhi is?

koaU hY myro swjnu mIqu ]

kooo hai maero saajan meeth ||

Is there any friend or companion of mine,

hir nwmu sunwvY nIq ]

har naam sunaavai neeth ||

who will constantly share the Lord's Name with me?

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He can't literally mean that because so many non-amritdharis are included in the SGGS.

I think we should remember that some people who have taken amrit can still be very selfish and corrupt (i.e. SGPC) whilst some monay can be very positive and spiritual, and actually be good people. Lumping sections of the population as bad in this way is not good in itself.

Besides if you are a positive person then who knows, maybe one day the people who are around would be influenced by yourself in a good way?

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What i was saying, i heard a Sakhi of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Jis horse refused to drink water from a water pump.

Guru Ji then said it is because that person who lives there hasn't taken Amrit, so even the water coming from hes house is impure.

The person then took Amrit.

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I'm not sure of how we should take stories like that. I'm sure some of them may have been made up.

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I am a Amritdhari. Is it okay to make Monays as friends.

This very Kaamaaee Waley Mahapurash said where ever a Negura (non-amritdhari) goes even the land and surrounding water gets filthy and dirty.

With an attitude like yours, I don't think monays should be your friends at all. Just stick with befriends with your amritdhari people.

This very Kaamaaee Waley Mahapurash said where ever a Negura (non-amritdhari) goes even the land and surrounding water gets filthy and dirty.

Well in that case, don't speak and hang out with 99.99999% people in this world since all them cut their hair and/or commit other sins.....after all, not everyone is perfect.

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i have alot of moneh friends. our main sangat should be gursikh. but in this day and age, we have to be able to speak 2 moneh. be friends, but keep away from chilling out, doing wasteful activities. keep most conversation gurmat. this is how i am, all my convo wid moneh is gurmat, and they enjoy talkin about such things, and even turn to you for advice. if gursikhs blanked out moneh, i wouldnt be amrit dari now. its cuz of sangat of gursikhs from wen i was a moneh, that i am now amrit dari.

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