Nick Griffin Talks Bout

[Sarbloh]

When i go to the Gurdwara i want to hear about:

Philosphy

Social Ethics of Sikhisim

Poltical Ethics of Sikhisim

Translation of Gurbani - and applied

Science and Sikhi

..not stupid made up storys and nursery rhymes by some numskull on the stage.

Oh well. As they say a bad workman always blames his tools. Either take your wish list to your local Prabhandak committee or better your jeevan so that atleast you don't see those stories as "stupid and made up " and jusr "nursery rhymes".

Instead of waiting for an example to be set stop being a numskull and become an example.

whats wrong with what that list, these type of things should be taught in Gurdwara.

Nothing wrong with your wish list, I agree with all your points. But I sense that all you are doing is passing blame onto others. What we need to realise is that we are not solving the problem because we are the problem. Each an everyone of us wants to blame the system and even blame Sikhi for everything that we see as wrong.

An elder Nihang Singh once told me that all the Kamiya (shortcomings) you see in others are your own Kamiya, no body elses! Maharaj shows us see our own Kamiya in the actions of others.

If you would rather listen and do the mehma of the vichaars of Nick Griffin to a Granthi Singh's than that's your own wish. I would rather back the Granthi Singh's vichaars because I know he is attempting to talk about Sikhi even though he may lack those professional presentation skills you desire!

[Medallion Stallion]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

[dalsingh101]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

The BNP also use teh SIkhs to justify their cause in this respect, essentially they are saying "we are not being racist, look even the SIkhs complain about this issue".

[Gurbar Akaal]

Some Sikhs are bigger racists than the BNP o_O

[dalsingh101]

You can find racists in every community. At least Sikhs do not have any big global domination ambitions unlike others (i.e. elite Anglo-Saxon closet groups and Johnny AL Qadia)

[sikh_youth_uk]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

The BNP also use teh SIkhs to justify their cause in this respect, essentially they are saying "we are not being racist, look even the SIkhs complain about this issue".

Yeh but his telling the truth isnt he. If the leader of bnp is opnely talking about this subject then fair play, but it would be even better if someone from more popular parties such as tories and labours did but they ignore thei issue of 13 year old white girls being used as sex slaves in north.

[dalsingh101]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

The BNP also use teh SIkhs to justify their cause in this respect, essentially they are saying "we are not being racist, look even the SIkhs complain about this issue".

Yeh but his telling the truth isnt he. If the leader of bnp is opnely talking about this subject then fair play, but it would be even better if someone from more popular parties such as tories and labours did but they ignore thei issue of 13 year old white girls being used as sex slaves in north.

I'm not saying he isn't but I'm talking of his motive towards SIkhs. The other goray probably think, "some girls always get caught up in such stuff so no big thing here, our families wont be."

The other issue is that in theory if this problem is resolved in whatever way, directly or whatever, what would the BNP's next move be? Right now we are out of the limelight because they are on the antiMuslim angle, once this problem goes, what would their agenda be then and what would their position towards Sikhs be then?

I respect the brother that put up the pieces from Nehru et al. with all the pre-independence quotes regarding SIkh autonomy. Once the "Muslim problem" is resolved here, they would quickly try to make snacks out of us. Given the lack of vision and unity in the Uk panth, they wouldn't have a difficult job compared to dealing with sullay.

[Sarbloh]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

The BNP also use teh SIkhs to justify their cause in this respect, essentially they are saying "we are not being racist, look even the SIkhs complain about this issue".

Yeh but his telling the truth isnt he. If the leader of bnp is opnely talking about this subject then fair play, but it would be even better if someone from more popular parties such as tories and labours did but they ignore thei issue of 13 year old white girls being used as sex slaves in north.

Pimping is one of the oldest "trades" in the world, just like prostitution. It's not relgion, cultural or ethinically driven, it's immoral. Pimps come from all backgrounds. So the BNP cleverly highlight a grooming issue in the north because the groomers are of muslim backgrounds. What about the pimps who groom girls thorough drug pushing etc, from white backgrounds? Is that any more acceptable?

[sikh_youth_uk]

In the political world NOBODY cares about sikhs, bnp is just saying those things to to get the sikh vote thats all........just because you take a racist thug and put him in a suit doesnt make him a saint now does it, people need to a bit more alert just because the bnp are raising issues that affect sikhs doesnt mean they will help help us now does it................the only group that can solve the problems that affect sikhs are sikhs themselves!

The BNP also use teh SIkhs to justify their cause in this respect, essentially they are saying "we are not being racist, look even the SIkhs complain about this issue".

Yeh but his telling the truth isnt he. If the leader of bnp is opnely talking about this subject then fair play, but it would be even better if someone from more popular parties such as tories and labours did but they ignore thei issue of 13 year old white girls being used as sex slaves in north.

Pimping is one of the oldest "trades" in the world, just like prostitution. It's not relgion, cultural or ethinically driven, it's immoral. Pimps come from all backgrounds. So the BNP cleverly highlight a grooming issue in the north because the groomers are of muslim backgrounds. What about the pimps who groom girls thorough drug pushing etc, from white backgrounds? Is that any more acceptable?

Then why dont Pakistanis men groom/seaxual abuse there own kind. Its cos they want to keep them pure.

Also after a paunjabi girl or gorre has been used her parents wont want to her.

The girl is usally taken in by a pakstani family and used as a conkibine (baby making machine to increase numbers for there commuinty)

[dalsingh101]

Whilst it does in no way excuse what certain guys are doing, we also have to face the fact that we ourselves are producing la significant proportion of seriously dumbo <admin-profanity filter activated>.ty kurian as a society and deal with that. Or else they will always be getting pimped or used by someone.

<waits for backlash>