Shere Panjab

[roop33]

Is there anyone from Shere Panjab on this forum?

[machete]

Is there anyone from Shere Panjab on this forum?

lololol sp was shut down 10 years ago man, it was a registered organisation. There aint no more SP , it jus a name now, there aint no organisation no more. Its old news and history now, but as for singhs we r all sheres and we all from punjab, lions from punjab, so u can say every singh a SP lololhahahah

[shamsher]

SP as been re-created in London and is active in the realm of drug-dealing, prostitution etc It is used by certain Sikh youth organisations and gurdware to silence opponents. It has insider links within the police in the London area reason why no real action as been taken against them. They have also been very active in spreading rumours about Muslims converting Sikh and Hindu girls although it is known that they themselves have been active in getting Muslim girls into their pimping network.

ps. as far as Muslims converting Hindu and Sikh girls are concerned. From my knowledge this is mostly true of Salafi groups like Hizbut Tahrir.But their main objective is to convert Shi'a girls not just Hindus and Sikhs.Just for info...

[SaRpAnCh]

SP as been re-created in London and is active in the realm of drug-dealing, prostitution etc It is used by certain Sikh youth organisations and gurdware to silence opponents. It has insider links within the police in the London area reason why no real action as been taken against them. They have also been very active in spreading rumours about Muslims converting Sikh and Hindu girls although it is known that they themselves have been active in getting Muslim girls into their pimping network.

ps. as far as Muslims converting Hindu and Sikh girls are concerned. From my knowledge this is mostly true of Salafi groups like Hizbut Tahrir.But their main objective is to convert Shi'a girls not just Hindus and Sikhs.Just for info...

I think your refering to 'Tari Kandola' and co,from the Midlands,they fit the description,there was an article on his SP -Sharabi Panjabis,a while back on this forum.

[SarabhaPanjab]

SP as been re-created in London and is active in the realm of drug-dealing, prostitution etc It is used by certain Sikh youth organisations and gurdware to silence opponents. It has insider links within the police in the London area reason why no real action as been taken against them. They have also been very active in spreading rumours about Muslims converting Sikh and Hindu girls although it is known that they themselves have been active in getting Muslim girls into their pimping network.

ps. as far as Muslims converting Hindu and Sikh girls are concerned. From my knowledge this is mostly true of Salafi groups like Hizbut Tahrir.But their main objective is to convert Shi'a girls not just Hindus and Sikhs.Just for info...

Shere panjab have a pimping network? they have bought muslims girls into that?

listen, provide evidence (not what ur mate told u in the pub) or shut up!

[shamsher]

I have these informations from an ex SP from the London area. Of course I can't reveal his name but sure is these people have nothing to do with Sikhi. But if you want to defend criminals that's up to you!

[SarabhaPanjab]

I have these informations from an ex SP from the London area. Of course I can't reveal his name but sure is these people have nothing to do with Sikhi. But if you want to defend criminals that's up to you!

This topic has been discussed many times before, but just to reiterate.. SP was Birmingham based, not London. It was headed by patriotic pro-Khalistani Panjabis who felt the need to stand up for the community, back then racist attacks, especially turban attacks were very common, as well as grooming, prostitution.

Because of the SP many sleazy day time gigs were banned. Gigs where naïve school girls would attend, easy prey for perverts. These gigs were organised by apneh to make a quick buck and take advantage of the fact that back then most Panjabi families wouldn’t allow daughters out late at night. Bhangra stars like Malkit Singh publicly apologised to SP for his wrong doings at these gigs.

Over a few years the reputation of SP grew and everyone was trying to live off the reputation, the hierarchy was no longer in control of all those who claimed to be SP.

Some took advantage of the street cred that SP had built up, and used to name for drugs. Hence the reason SP was officially closed, and newsletters stopped.

Yes, gangs did take advantage of the SP name, and yes things like drugs, and protection rackets happened, But pimping was never associated to SP.

If your “mate” from London did so, he did it off his own back, and was a shame to the name SP. In all honesty, he woulda been shot if he tried his luck doing that in Birmingham.

In the underworld and protection rackets the name SP is still prominent, and a youth revival of the original principles of which SP stood for is beginning to make a come back.

There are many good men, true Sikhs who stood up for Sikh values and the Panjabi community, many risked life and limb, some did time under the name SP. Don’t paint them all with the same brush because of you’re <banned word filter activated> “mate”.

In term of “defending criminals” I think you’ll find most of the heroes of our Panth were lawbreakers and revolutionists.

I defend them in my Ardas everyday.

[sherlsurj]

SP had a huge reputation back in the day in birmingham and a lot of what they did was very respectful and brave. but things changed i think mainly because responsibilities got passsed down and ego. they are so corrupt. from videos on youtube on prostitution and the exploitation of women to recently where they were extorting money from drug dealing. in birmingham they tried influencing commitee members in gudwareh there, threatening them with violence etc to get peopel who they wanted elected. so corrupts its unbelievable.

over and out

[Azaad]

This topic has been discussed many times before, but just to reiterate.. SP was Birmingham based, not London. It was headed by patriotic pro-Khalistani Panjabis who felt the need to stand up for the community, back then racist attacks, especially turban attacks were very common, as well as grooming, prostitution.

Because of the SP many sleazy day time gigs were banned. Gigs where naïve school girls would attend, easy prey for perverts. These gigs were organised by apneh to make a quick buck and take advantage of the fact that back then most Panjabi families wouldn’t allow daughters out late at night. Bhangra stars like Malkit Singh publicly apologised to SP for his wrong doings at these gigs.

Over a few years the reputation of SP grew and everyone was trying to live off the reputation, the hierarchy was no longer in control of all those who claimed to be SP.

Some took advantage of the street cred that SP had built up, and used to name for drugs. Hence the reason SP was officially closed, and newsletters stopped.

Yes, gangs did take advantage of the SP name, and yes things like drugs, and protection rackets happened, But pimping was never associated to SP.

If your “mate” from London did so, he did it off his own back, and was a shame to the name SP. In all honesty, he woulda been shot if he tried his luck doing that in Birmingham.

In the underworld and protection rackets the name SP is still prominent, and a youth revival of the original principles of which SP stood for is beginning to make a come back.

There are many good men, true Sikhs who stood up for Sikh values and the Panjabi community, many risked life and limb, some did time under the name SP. Don’t paint them all with the same brush because of you’re <banned word filter activated> “mate”.

In term of “defending criminals” I think you’ll find most of the heroes of our Panth were lawbreakers and revolutionists.

I defend them in my Ardas everyday.

Completely agree 100%

[dalsingh101]

SP as been re-created in London and is active in the realm of drug-dealing, prostitution etc It is used by certain Sikh youth organisations and gurdware to silence opponents. It has insider links within the police in the London area reason why no real action as been taken against them. They have also been very active in spreading rumours about Muslims converting Sikh and Hindu girls although it is known that they themselves have been active in getting Muslim girls into their pimping network.

ps. as far as Muslims converting Hindu and Sikh girls are concerned. From my knowledge this is mostly true of Salafi groups like Hizbut Tahrir.But their main objective is to convert Shi'a girls not just Hindus and Sikhs.Just for info...

What a load of tutti shamser!

Yes, some guys who were affiliated to SP have gone into criminal activities. No one is pimping though. I think the only place I heard this rumour is from some gora "expert" on gangs. This rumour seems to be spreading through nobs like yourself. I've met some as.sho SPs but not a single one who was pimping! The real reason for this misinformation is that people want to disempower them because the truth is, compared to most Sikh groups they have/had much support in the community and are/were willing to make the type of sacrifices that frankly, the majority of people calling themselves Sikhs wouldn't or just plain couldn't.

The truth is that SP were active and very effective for a while. They spread from Birmingham to other parts of England quite dramatically in the mid to late 90s. It was more to raise consciousness of grooming for conversions and Panjabi politics (wide spread human rights abuses.)

Given that Islamic fundamentalism has now become such an issue in the country and grooming of dumb girls is also becoming increasingly uncovered across communities by certain groups. You could say that they were well ahead of their times. Even before many original members fought with skinheads when your average "Asian" would get paki bashed and run off.

Yes certain crooked individuals have affiliated themselves with the name and have been doing bad things in the midlands but many guys who were in, had good intentions. You can't blame corruption on SP because it seems to be a part of all Sikh institutes these days incl. Khalistani movement, Akali Dal, certain Nihung Dals, SGPC.

Me personally speaking (and I'm grown up enough to know that people will have different opinions), will always respect active people over people who sit on the sidelines and b.itch out the place. In this context i have a lot of respect for certain SP guys (not the crooked criminal type.)

I've met some from the old days who are now lawyers, barristers, teachers and live good straight lives. Just focusing on the crooked ones doesn't give you a true picture of what they were about. If your interested in the truth you have to look for it in the face of blatant lies.