Parallel Prakaash Of Sri Dasam Granth Not To Be Done With Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

[Akaali]

Translation of Gurmatta:

QUOTE

Today, date 23 Jeth Nanakshahi 540 (6th June 2008), the Five Singh Sahibaan have gathered at Sri Akaal Takht Sahib and passed

GURMATTA - 1

The 300th anniversary of the Gurgaddi diwas of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is an opportunity to highlight the concept and authority of "Guru Granth-Guru Panth". The last order of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji was "Sabh Sikhan Ko Hukam Hai, Guru Maaniyo Granth" and that the Panth accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as his Living Light and stand strong on this. To overcome all challenges, the Sikh Panth has sought guidance from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Debates presented in relation to Sri Dasam Granth are totally needless. No one has the right to present a questionable debate on the writings from Dasam Granth which the Panth has accepted and uses for the Sikh Rehit Maryada, Nitnem and Amrit Sanchaar. The whole Panth should be reminded that Sri Dasam Granth is an inseparable part of Sikh history, but Guru Gobind Singh Ji did not give it equal status to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and for this reason no other Granth can be Prakaash equal to Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.

Joginder Singh

Jathedaar

[SaRpAnCh]

Finnaly

[republicofkhalistan]

Waheguru! Waheguru!

[Fauja]

the 5 singh sahibaan of akaal takth don't have control over choosing who our guru is... tomorrow they cannot declare even Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not our guru because some <banned word filter activated> decided to cause ravok in the panth using the strategy of divide and conquer and just wanted to cause differences within us so we would destroy ourselves.

Takth Sri Patna Sahib and Sach Khand Sri Hazoor Sahib still do prakaash of Sri Guru Dasam Granth Sahib Ji on an equal level as Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and they are such historical and ithaasak gurdware for the sikh kaum. This maryada has been kept in the same times and well before of Mahapurkhs such as Sant Baba Attar Singh Mastuane, Sant Baba Sundar Singh Bhindranwale, Sant Baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale. If those Brahamgianees did not question or hold any differences between Guru Gobind Singh and Guru Nanak Dev Ji's bani, i don't think anyone after them can make a seperate decision. Only the Khalsa Panth.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji, out of humility did not instill his bani has 'Guru' as some people say, however they are his pavittar bachan and Maharaj Sahib jee says, "Aaphu Bol n Janda, Sabhu Kahiya Hukmao Jeeo". There is no dfiference between Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Guru Gobind Singh Ji so if Guru Nanak Sahib Ji said something, anything, it is the word of Akaal Purakh, same with Guru Gobind Singh Ji. Guru Nanak may not have called his own bani Guru, it took Sri Guru Arjan Dev Ji to compile all the bani and do prakaash of Aad Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji then it took Guru Gobind Singh to literally say Guru, but either way "Dhur Ki Bani Aayee, Tin Saglee Chint Mitayee" .. Bani was always guru, Guru Gobind Singh did not even have to say it. Bani came out of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji's pavittar mouth, there was no difference between him and his bani, they are one and the same. If someone says Guru Nanak Dev Ji was our Guru, well then his bani is your guru. No Questions asked because the physical body means nothing in sikhi. Guru Gobind Singh did not need to say Guru Granth Sahib is your Guru. "Guru Hai Bani, Bani Hai Guru". Any word that came out of any of our Guru Sahibaan's mouths are pavittar bachan of Akaal.

If one considers Guru Gobind Singh Jee as the tenth master to inherit the jot of Guru Nanak, then there is absolutely no difference between what he says or what Guru Amardaas Sahib jee says, for example. Even if Guru Sahib did not compile Guru Dasam Granth Sahib by himself and it took Sant Baba Mani Singh Sahib Ji to do it, it is still his word bottom line. Dhan Dhan Sahib Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji took Sant Baba Kabir Sahib Ji and Sant Baba Farid Sahib Jee's baani and instilled it into Guru Granth Sahib Ji, but they did not compile their writings themselves, does that mean it was not their bani? No

In these times of hardships, we cannot let people come into our panth and make us kill each other instead of work as one panth to fight injustice and carry on Guru Gobind Singh Jee's Pavittar legacy. It is not logical to say that before Prof Darshan Singh, no one else knew any better to know if Guru Sahib's bani was bani or not. Here is a man who follows 5 guys who have all been kicked out of the panth, now he his on the verge of being. He has read the same banis his whole life and now because of inconvenience of doing nitnem probabaly, he is challenging them. The man eats meat and has a family full of sharaabiyaan and vemukhs, (daas knows because I used to do seva at his 'academy' in Toronto). At his camps he brainwashes kids into his thinking by putting on false edited videotapes of Gursikhs and telling the kids that these people are bad because other people matha tek them even though they tell people not to. He does 1 hour of katha about bani at his camps, everything else he teaches himself is for nindya of gursikhs. I once saw yogurt with eggs in them being distributed in the langar and told the sevadaars, they said you can't get into small bareekhia like this, sikhi is bigger than meat, Prof eats it so its ok. I said what if there are vege kids here, they probably expect no eggs in guru sahib's langar, and the sevadaars said if Prof eats it, its ok.

For this reason, we cannot let vemukhs teach us Gurmat, we must come together as a Panth and make decisions ourselves. The Sant Samaaj has openly challenged the 5 singh saahibaan on this topic, NO ONE can declare who or who is not our guru. Only the Khalsa Panth. Khalsa Jee Wake Up! Khalsa Jee Come together to fight injsutice, Khalsa Jee....enough said

[SunSingh]

this reminds me of when the "panthic" leaders tried to change mangalcharan in Guru Granth Sahib ji. The panth rose together to defend Gurbani and stopped the corrupt leadership from engaging in this task.

from baba jagjit singh ji's jeevan sakhi:

Everyday for the thirty-five days whilst Mahapursh (Baba Jawala Singh ji) was at Dameli he was massaged

with two & half kilograms of ghee (butter). It was the month of 'Katak', fans were blowing and

the ghee was being absorbed by Mahapursh's body. The reason for this phenomenon was

something only Mahapursh knew and no one understood. It seemed to relate to an issue of

one lakh (hundred thousand) copies of Guru Granth Sahib, which had been published

incorrectly where the original rules set by Guru Arjan Dev ji had been ignored. Mahapursh

discussed and requested with the main committee leaders who ran the publication that they

should not break the rules set by Maharaj, but nobody agreed. Mahapursh really took this

issue to heart and decided that as the `Guru' had been insulted, he had to sacrifice his life in

order to retain the honour of Shri Guru Granth Sahib. He appointed Baba Hari Singh of

Kaharpur to take care of setting the matters of Shri Guru Granth Sahib straight so that its form

was kept intact the way Guru Arjan Dev ji had stated. Baba Hari ji was told that he should

make efforts to call a meeting of Sadhus and hold samagams at different places to inform and

make people aware of the situation. Only with the public's support would the leaders listen

and the original rules laid down of publishing be restored. Mahapursh however could not

tolerate the affliction made on the Guru, and so stated the need to give up his life in order to

save the respect of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji. This was yet another working in the `game of

life' which only Mahapursh understood.

...Many of these

doctors tried to advice Baba Jawala Singh ji against his intended course of action. They would

prescibe medication to Mahapursh, but he would tell them that he didn't have any illness only

that it was God's wish that he had to go. Even Sardar Partap Singh Kairo attended to Baba ji

with a team of doctors, but they failed and were told the same, ‘Everything lies in God's wish'.

He said that the leaders had destroyed parts of Maharaj and disobeyed the rules, and they

intended further plans of disgrace such as removing Banis and Shabads from the holy Granth

of the Guru. So to preserve the honour of Maharaj a sacrifice was required.

Mahapursh Hari Singh ji actively went about raising public awareness of what was

happening and why Baba Jawala Singh was making a sacrifice. Sant Isher Singh ji of Kalera,

Giani Gurbachan Singh ji Khalsa Bhindrawale, Sant Baba Isher Singh ji of Rara Sahib, all other

Mahapurshs, Nirmal Mandal's, Sant Baba Sohan Singh Vidichand, and their entire Sikh groups

all voiced the issue and their concern. It was only when Sant Baba Fateh Singh ji became

leader of the Shiromani Akali Dal that the first issue he acted upon was to have all Holy Books

of the Guru Granth Sahib ji republished according to the rules laid out by Guru Arjan Dev ji,

keeping the `DamDami' Granth as their model.

[Fauja]

the leaders of today are crack.. if im not mistaken, Sri Guru Dasam Granth Sahib Ji was prakash in Akaal Takth itself in puraatan times.. ever since this revolution of the 'sgpc' took over our gurdware, they got corrupted with kurseeaa, money, and votes.. none of them care the least bit about keeping maryada, doing nitnem, and instead of telling people to take amrit, telling people to vote for them, .. then we talk about having khalistan and running our own country.. we can't properly govern our own dharam, how are we supposed to manage a self state without unity, proper leadership, and unconditional pyaar with Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji-Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji

imagine, if all our leaders were amritdhari and did parchaar to take amrit etc, the rest of the kaum would be in chardi kalaa 2.. i dont blame our kaum for any of this though. I blame outside forces for coming in and paying people off to run dirty tasks and start to divide and conquer so to bring the panth down, Punjab was the only state that Alexander the Great couldn't defeat. Singhs are powerful, so is our panth, we just need to realize that and stop outside infiltration and stick to Gurmat Maryada. Do Ardaas and hukamnamey before taking any decisions in the panth and realize the Khalsa's true glory!

[singh_bling]

if u cant find a pub in amritsar visit the sgpc headquarters on election day

[Inder Singh]

if u cant find a pub in amritsar visit the sgpc headquarters on election day

Dasam Granth is a canonised scripture of sikhs.Who are these singh sahibs to ban the parkash of it when it was in parkash in these takhat since then.

It was in parkash at akal takhat till 1942.They will be damned wrong in forcing their will on sikh panth on bani of tenth master.

[SaRpAnCh]

Just cos something was there in these 'Puratan Times'don't mean it was right,like those stupid paintings with Hanumans running around it was good they were wiped off when Akal Thakt was rebuilt

[Kooka]

'Do Ardaas and hukamnamey before taking any decisions in the panth and realize the Khalsa's true glory'

You can take hukamnama, however the meaning of the hukumnama could be interpreted in many many many different ways!