Dont Give In To Pleasures

[jessicarox]

I think this is a very good concept which i recently have been keeping in mind. I just have a little question I was curious about. Does the SGGS say anything about having sex for pleasure or is there only one specific purpose of it?

[Guest SikhForLife]

good question i think its similar to some of the posts in "gays in sikhi" thread

technically sex should only for reproduction.. and nothin else

..but i dont think a whole lotta ppl actually think of it as that.

[Deep Singh]

You may read about Sex and Sikhism here:

http://www.sikhcoalition.org/Sikhism13.asp

an article by Sirdar Kapur Singh, written in '79....maybe it does not tackle the modern problems of youth, but it is good read...

[GABROO KHALISTAN DAH]

i have'tn done it yet, but i'm guessin pleausre is a by product of sex for the purpose of repro, coiuld use practice :D

jk jk

; :D

[Akaali]

Well, in SGGS, sex is kaam, which is like the main category, for sexual thoughts, sexual acts, pleasure, etc. It all falls under the word 'kaam', I will provide quotes where our Guruji talks about kaam. If you want to search any quotes in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji, visit http://www.sikhitothemax.com and search for anything!! PLEASURE IS SUCH A BROAD CATEGORY. Everything we do is for our pleasure. You can search for pleasure there as well!

This is a good one!

avur muruth maaeiaa mun tholae tho bhug mukh junum vigoeiaa ||3||

When others die, you measure your own wealth in your mind; you waste your life in the pleasures of the mouth and sexual organs. ||3||

kaam krodhh than vusehi chu(n)ddaal ||

Unfulfilled sexual desire and unresolved anger dwell in my body, like the outcasts who cremate the dead.

Guru Nanak Dev Ji

Siree Raag

sun sun kaam gehaeleeeae kiaa chulehi baah luddaae ||

Listen, listen, O soul-bride: you are overtaken by sexual desire-why do you walk like that, swinging your arms in joy?

Guru Amar Daas Ji

Siree Raag

kaam krodhh madh biaapiaa fir fir jonee paae ||2||

Engrossed in the intoxication of se

xual desire and anger, people wander through reincarnation over and over again. ||2||

Guru Arjan Dev Ji

Siree Raag

[Guest SikhForLife]

yes.. veerji

but then what about "fulfilled" sexual desire

or

a gurmukh having sex with his wife to have kids..

plus its in God's creation to have pleasure..

just as long as u dont forget God..

then would sex still be a sin?

in my opinion.. No

[S1ngh]

Keep sex relation only with ur wife/husband, then nothing is wrong.. (that's what married life is).. Though sex is not the MAJOR part of the couples life, but still it considered an important holding relationship, whether it's for pleasure or for reproduction..

2 cent of my thought

[birkhalsa]

Here's an article on Sex written by SikhSoc, UK. Hope it answers some of your questions

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Something we all have is Sexual feelings, the mind lusts after someone weather your driving in the car or walking down the road, and you think “Coor She/he is fit ” but then what happens is that the next person will walk past and your mind tells you it again..hahaha

In the clubs/gigs Lust is ripe, when yah bumpin’ & grindin’ its like a catalyst for lust to take over and with a Archer’s Lemonade’s and a few shots of Southern comfort’s the senses go out of the door and often ppl end up regretting “What they did last night & who with” don’t think that Guru ji doesn’t talk about these feeling’s/actions because guru ji has covered all areas of every area of your life and next. Even though in society and especially parents “Sex “is a taboo subject but let’s see what Guru ji says in Guru Granth Sahib and how to avoid making the mistakes.

Read on……

O man, when you were coiled in the cradle of the womb, upside-down, you were absorbed in meditation. You took no pride in your perishable body; night and day were all the same to you—you lived unknowing, in the silence of the void. Remember the terrible pain and suffering of those days, now that you have spread out the net of your consciousness far and wide. Leaving the womb, you entered this mortal world; you have forgotten the Lord from your mind. || 1 || Later, you will regret and repent—you fool! Why are you engrossed in evil-mindedness and skepticism? Think of the Lord, o

r else you shall be led to the City of Death. Why are you wandering around, out of control? || 1 || Pause || You play like a child, craving sweets; moment by moment, you become more entangled in emotional attachment. Tasting good and bad, you eat nectar and then poison, and then the five passions appear and torture you. Abandoning meditation, penance and self-restraint, and the wisdom of good actions, you do not worship and adore the Lord’s Name. You are overflowing with sexual desire, and your intellect is stained with darkness; you are held in the grip of Shakti’s power. || 2 || In the heat of youthful passion, you look with desire upon the faces of other men’s wives; you do not distinguish between good and evil. Drunk with sexual desire and other great sins, you go astray, and do not distinguish between vice and virtue. Gazing upon your children and your property, your mind is proud and arrogant; you cast out the Lord from your heart. When others die, you measure your own wealth in your mind; you waste your life in the pleasures of the mouth and sexual organs. SGGS, Ang/Page 93

So then we still continue to live in this world with Sex pumped into our brains everywhere we go, on TV, Billboards, Advertising, Magazines, Guru ji emphasises the “FAMILY” life i.e.: marriage and children because he understands that everybody has this energy, in the bond of marriage it is used in the correct manner ,however, we have all had situations where the lust inside is unbearable and we all want to be with a girl/boy friend + we face so many pressures from our mates and guru ji goes on to say ……………

|| 3 || Your hair is whiter than the jasmine flower, and your voice has grown feeble, as if it comes from the seventh underworld. Your eyes water, and your intellect and strength have left you; but still, your sexual desire churns and drives you on. And so, your intellect has dried up through corruption, and the lotus flower of your body

has wilted and withered. You have forsaken the Bani, the Word of the Immortal Lord, in this mortal world; in the end, you shall regret and repent. SGGS, Ang/Page 93

So now guru ji explaining to us how lust overtakes us and takes control, think of a Chariot and horse and there are 4 wild horses (Lust, Anger,Greed,Attachment) & Ego is the Whip…that drives this 4 horses wild…hence we begin to lose control of ourselves and we forget we are here only for a short while.

|| 4 || Gazing upon the tiny bodies of your children, love has welled up within your heart; you are proud of them, but you do not understand. You long for the dignity of a long life, but your eyes can no longer see anything. Your light has gone out, and the bird of your mind has flown away; you are no longer welcome in your own home and courtyard. Says Baynee, listen, O devotee: who has ever attained liberation after such a death? SGGS, Ang/Page 93

Now guru ji explains how we are obsessed with Sex…

Men and women are obsessed with sex; they do not know the Way of the Lord’s Name. Mother, father, children and siblings are very dear, but they drown, even without water. They are drowned to death without water — they do not know the path of salvation, and they wander around the world in egotism. All those who come into the world shall depart. Only those who contemplate the Guru shall be saved. Those who become Gurmukh and chant the Lord’s Name, save themselves and save their families as well. O Nanak, the Naam, the Name of the Lord, abides deep within their hearts; through the Guru’s Teachings, they meet their Beloved. SGGS,Ang/Page 246

So by us remembering god, saying Waheguru 24/7, feeling paat, helping sikhi camps, society’s doing seva in charity’s feeding he homeless etc these things really begin to bring compassion to the soul and the search for finding god inside your heart then automatically we can start to control the feelings that run wild …trust

me it works J

In the following Shabad guru ji explains……

|| In the second watch of the night, O my merchant friend, you are intoxicated with the wine of youth and beauty. Day and night, you are engrossed in sexual desire, O my merchant friend, and your consciousness is blind to the Naam. The Lord’s Name is not within your heart, but all sorts of other tastes seem sweet to you. You have no wisdom at all, no meditation, no virtue or self-discipline; in falsehood, you are caught in the cycle of birth and death. Pilgrimages, fasts, purification and self-discipline are of no use, nor are rituals, religious ceremonies or empty worship. O Nanak, emancipation comes only by loving devotional worship; through duality, people are engrossed in duality. SGGS, Ang/Page 75

So here guru ji is clearly telling us straight what we do not do, and that by Loving devotion we can improve our lives

Fire and water join together, and the breath roars in its fury! The tongue and the sex organs each seek to taste. The eyes which look upon corruption do not know the Love and the Fear of God. Conquering self-conceit, one obtains the Name. || 2 || One who dies in the Word of the Shabad, shall never again have to die. Without such a death, how can one attain perfection? The mind is engrossed in deception, treachery and duality. Whatever the Immortal Lord does, comes to pass. || 3 || SGGS, Ang/Page 154

We all have these sexual organs that play havoc on the mind and cause us to act foolishly but again guru ji is stressing the need for family/marriage and meditation as a form of control. So next time your at a gig just think about what your doing before you make a mistake that will live with you for the rest of your life…..Barcardi Breezer’s ..releases the Latin Spirit in you so the Advert says, Guru ji liberates the soul to the next level of love….

“Respect is

not what you do in front of your parents its what you do behind their back”

[me moorakh mugadh]

Keep sex relation only with ur wife/husband, then nothing is wrong.. (that's what married life is).. Though sex is not the MAJOR part of the couples life, but still it considered an important holding relationship, whether it's for pleasure or for reproduction..

2 cent of my thought

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

bilkul thek i agree this vicks so now i think u should add ur name as vicky 007 :D lol

[Akaali]

Yea I agree as well!!