Islam, Sikhi & Qualities Of God Or Gursikhi

[sikhlionz]

there are 99 Better Names of God in Islam. Unlke faiths like Sanatan Dharam, Semitic faiths tend to either fit or contradict with Sikhi and some of these Names do, however daas thought it would be interesting to look at some of them and the qualities they represent and look for mention of them as qualities of God or Gursikhi in Gurbani.

(before anyone bites my head off this is in no way accurate, nor have i looked in-depth at Arth or anything but purely a 5 minuite superficial job at finding similarity in 2 distinctly different belief systems) Many of these will be incorrect, feel free to point them out and feel free to look up the others yourselves!

1. Allah http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1191.html
   • Allah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities.
     

[*]Ar-Rahmaan

• The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter.
  

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Rahm: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amr...n/tr_1143a.html

1. Ar-Raheem http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html
   • The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers.
     

[*]Al-Malik

• The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1143a.html

1. Al-Quddoos
   • The Holy, The One who is pure from any imperfection and clear from children and adversaries.
     

[*]As-Salaam http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/25.html

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1191.html

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• The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection.
  

[*]Al-Mu'min

• Guardian of Faith, The One who witnessed for Himself that no one is God but Him. And He witnessed for His believers that they are truthful in their belief that no one is God but Him.
  

[*]Al-Muhaimin

• The Protector, The One who witnesses the saying and deeds of His creatures.
  

[*]Al-^Azeez

• The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/26.html

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1475.html

1. Al-Jabbaar
   • The Compeller, The One that nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He willed.
     

[*]Al-Mutakabbir

• The Majestic, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures and from resembling them.
  

[*]Al-Khaaliq

• The Creator, The One who brings everything from non-existence to existence.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html

1. Al-Bari'
   • The Evolver, The Maker, The Creator who has the Power to turn the entities.
     

[*]Al-Musawwir

• The Fashioner, The One who forms His creatures in different pictures.
  

[*]Al-Ghaffaar

• The Great Forgiver, The Forgiver, The One who forgives the sins of His slaves time and time again.
  

[*]Al-Qahhaar

• The Subduer, The Dominant, The One who has the perfect Power and is not unable over anything.
  

[*]Al-Wahhaab

• The Bestower, The One who is Generous in giving plenty without any return. He is everything that benefits whether Halal or Haram.
  

[*]Al-Razzaaq http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html

• The Sustainer, The Provider.
  

[*]Al-Fattaah

• The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge, The One who opens for His slaves the closed worldy and religious matters.
  

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Fateh: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1356.html

1. Al-^Aleem
   • The All-knowing, The Knowledgeable; The One nothing is absent from His knowledge.
     

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Alam:/Ilam http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1470.html

1. Al-Qaabid
   • The Constricter, The Retainer, The Withholder, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.
     

[*]Al-Baasit

• The Expander, The Englarger, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.
  

[*]Al-Khaafid

• The Abaser, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.
  

[*]Ar-Raafi^

• The Exalter, The Elevator, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.
  

[*]Al-Mu^iz

• The Honorer, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.
  

[*]Al-Muthil

• The Dishonorer, The Humiliator, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.
  

[*]As-Samee^

• The All-Hearing, The Hearer, The One who Hears all things that are heard by His Eternal Hearing without an ear, instrument or organ.
  

[*]Al-Baseer

• The All-Seeing, The One who Sees all things that are seen by His Eternal Seeing without a pupil or any other instrument.
  

[*]Al-Hakam

• The Judge, He is the Ruler and His judgment is His Word.
  

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Hak: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/0727.html

Hukam:

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/0148.html

1. Al-^Adl
   • The Just, The One who is entitled to do what He does.
     

[*]Al-Lateef

• The Subtle One, The Gracious, The One who is kind to His slaves and endows upon them.
  

[*]Al-Khabeer

• The Aware, The One who knows the truth of things.
  

[*]Al-Haleem

• The Forebearing, The Clement, The One who delays the punishment for those who deserve it and then He might forgive them.
  

[*]Al-^Azeem

• The Great One, The Mighty, The One deserving the attributes of Exaltment, Glory, Extolement,and Purity from all imperfection.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/1470.html

1. Al-Ghafoor
   • The All-Forgiving, The Forgiving, The One who forgives a lot.
     

[*]Ash-Shakoor

• The Grateful, The Appreciative, The One who gives a lot of reward for a little obedience.
  

[*]Al-^Aliyy

• The Most High, The Sublime, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures.
  

[*]Al-Kabeer

• The Most Great, The Great, The One who is greater than everything in status.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1374.html

1. Al-Hafeez
   • The Preserver, The Protector, The One who protects whatever and whoever He willed to protect.
     

[*]Al-Muqeet

• The Maintainer, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer, The One who has the Power.
  

[*]Al-Haseeb

• The Reckoner, The One who gives the satisfaction.
  

[*]Aj-Jaleel

• The Sublime One, The Beneficent, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.
  

[*]Al-Kareem http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html

• The Generous One, The Bountiful, The Gracious, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.
  

[*]Ar-Raqeeb

• The Watcher, The Watchful, The One that nothing is absent from Him. Hence it's meaning is related to the attribute of Knowledge.
  

[*]Al-Mujeeb

• The Responsive, The Hearkener, The One who answers the one in need if he asks Him and rescues the yearner if he calls upon Him.
  

[*]Al-Wasi^

• The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Knowledgeable.
  

[*]Al-Hakeem

• The Wise, The Judge of Judges, The One who is correct in His doings.
  

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Hakeekat: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1470.html

1. Al-Wadood
   • The Loving, The One who loves His believing slaves and His believing slaves love Him. His love to His slaves is His Will to be merciful to them and praise them:Hence it's meaning is related to the attributes of the Will and Kalam (His attribute with which He orders and forbids and spoke to Muhammad and Musa -peace be upon them- . It is not a sound nor a language nor a letter.).
     

[*]Al-Majeed

• The Most Glorious One, The Glorious, The One who is with perfect Power, High Status, Compassion, Generosity and Kindness.
  

[*]Al-Ba^ith

• The Reserrector, The Raiser (from death), The One who resurrects His slaves after death for reward and/or punishment.
  

[*]Ash-Shaheed

• The Witness, The One who nothing is absent from Him.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/1475.html

1. Al-Haqq
   • The Truth, The True, The One who truly exists.
     

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/0721.html

1. Al-Wakeel
   • The Trustee, The One who gives the satisfaction and is relied upon.
     

[*]Al-Qawiyy

• The Most Strong, The Strong, The One with the complete Power.
  

[*]Al-Mateen

• The Firm One, The One with extreme Power which is un-interrupted and He does not get tired.
  

[*]Al-Waliyy

• The Protecting Friend, The Supporter.
  

[*]Al-Hameed

• The Praiseworthy, The praised One who deserves to be praised.
  

[*]Al-Muhsee

• The Counter, The Reckoner, The One who the count of things are known to him.
  

[*]Al-Mubdi'

• The Originator, The One who started the human being. That is, He created him.
  

[*]Al-Mu^eed

• The Reproducer, The One who brings back the creatures after death.
  

[*]Al-Muhyi

• The Restorer, The Giver of Life, The One who took out a living human from semen that does not have a soul. He gives life by giving the souls back to the worn out bodies on the resurrection day and He makes the hearts alive by the light of knowledge.
  

[*]Al-Mumeet

• The Creator of Death, The Destroyer, The One who renders the living dead.
  

[*]Al-Hayy

• The Alive, The One attributed with a life that is unlike our life and is not that of a combination of soul, flesh or blood.
  

[*]Al-Qayyoom

• The Self-Subsisting, The One who remains and does not end.
  

[*]Al-Waajid

• The Perceiver, The Finder, The Rich who is never poor. Al-Wajd is Richness.
  

[*]Al-Waahid

• The Unique, The One, The One without a partner.
  

[*]Al-Ahad

• The One.
  

[*]As-Samad

• The Eternal, The Independent, The Master who is relied upon in matters and reverted to in ones needs.
  

[*]Al-Qaadir

• The Able, The Capable, The One attributed with Power.
  
• http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1165a.html
  
• Kudrat: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1191.html
  

[*]Al-Muqtadir

• The Powerful, The Dominant, The One with the perfect Power that nothing is withheld from Him.
  

[*]Al-Muqaddim

• The Expediter, The Promoter, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.
  

[*]Al-Mu'akh-khir

• The Delayer, the Retarder, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.
  

[*]Al-'Awwal

• The First, The One whose Existence is without a beginning.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html

1. Al-'Akhir
   • The Last, The One whose Existence is without an end.
     

[*]Az-Zaahir http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html

• The Manifest, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.
  

[*]Al-Baatin

• The Hidden, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.
  

[*]Al-Walee

• The Governor, The One who owns things and manages them.
  

[*]Al-Muta^ali

• The Most Exalted, The High Exalted, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creation.
  

[*]Al-Barr

• The Source of All Goodness, The Righteous, The One who is kind to His creatures, who covered them with His sustenance and specified whoever He willed among them by His support, protection, and special mercy.
  

[*]At-Tawwaab

• The Acceptor of Repentance, The Relenting, The One who grants repentance to whoever He willed among His creatures and accepts his repentance.
  

[*]Al-Muntaqim

• The Avenger, The One who victoriously prevails over His enemies and punishes them for their sins. It may mean the One who destroys them.
  

[*]Al-^Afuww

• The Pardoner, The Forgiver, The One with wide forgiveness.
  

[*]Ar-Ra'uf

• The Compassionate, The One with extreme Mercy. The Mercy of Allah is His will to endow upon whoever He willed among His creatures.
  

[*]Malik Al-Mulk

• The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The One who controls the Dominion and gives dominion to whoever He willed.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1143a.html

1. Thul-Jalali wal-Ikram
   • The Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The One who deserves to be Exalted and not denied.
     

[*]Al-Muqsit

• The Equitable, The One who is Just in His judgment.
  

[*]Aj-Jaami^

• The Gatherer, The One who gathers the creatures on a day that there is no doubt about, that is the Day of Judgment.
  

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In contradiction to Sikhi however Gurbani does say:

kabeer mayree buDh ka-o jam na karai tiskaar.

Kabeer, the Messenger of Death shall not compromise my understanding.

jin ih jamoo-aa sirji-aa so japi-aa parvidagaar. ||140||

I have meditated on the Lord, the Cherisher, who created this Messenger of Death. ||140||

http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1371.html

1. Al-Ghaniyy
   • The Self-Sufficient, The One who does not need the creation.
     

[*]Al-Mughni

• The Enricher, The One who satisfies the necessities of the creatures.
  

[*]Al-Maani^

• The Preventer, The Withholder.
  

[*]Ad-Daarr

• The Distresser, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.
  

[*]An-Nafi^

• The Propitious, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.
  

[*]An-Noor

• The Light, The One who guides.
  

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http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html

1. Al-Haadi
   • The Guide, The One whom with His Guidance His belivers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them.
     

[*]Al-Badi^

• The Incomparable, The One who created the creation and formed it without any preceding example.
  

[*]Al-Baaqi

• The Everlasting, The One that the state of non-existence is impossible for Him.
  

[*]Al-Waarith

• The Supreme Inheritor, The Heir, The One whose Existence remains.
  

[*]Ar-Rasheed

• The Guide to the Right Path, The One who guides.
  

[*]As-Saboor

• The Patient, The One who does not quickly punish the sinners.
  

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Sabar as a quality of a Gursikh: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1384.html

[Matheen]

Interesting. Thanks for posting that, though I don't understand why they limit Akaal to just 99 names.

[sikhlionz]

Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is also reported to have said in a famous hadith:

Verily, there are ninety-nine names of God, one hundred minus one. He who enumerates [and believes in them and the one God behind] them would get into Paradise.

Of note is that this hadith does not say that there are only 99 names, but 99 names that are better than the others.

Also a Sakhi worth noting:

Guru Nanak Dev Ji traveled east to Nepal and the Himalayas visiting sacred centers of the Hindus on the way like Benaras and Hardwar. On an another udassi (journey) Guru Ji traveled south to Sri Lanka again visiting many places of learning. On a separate journey to the west Guru Nanak Dev Ji with Mardana traveled to Bhagdad and Mecca, not as a pilgrimage as some would suggest but on Gods mission to spread Gods word and to put people on the path of righteousness.

On Guru Ji's travels through Bhagdad, Mardana would play the rabab and Guru Sahib Ji would sing about the infiniteness of God and His Creation, wherein occurred the following expression: " patala patal, lakha aghasa aghaas" - there are countless patals (earths) and innumerable akashs (sky). Which goes contrary to Muslim belief, as they only know of 7 earths and skys, When some Muslim who was listening to it and understood its purport went and reported the blasphemy of the utterance - inasmuch as the Qu'ran had mentioned only seven earths and seven skies - to the Sajjdanashin of the Shrine of Pir Dastagir, Abdul Qadir Jilani an agitated crowd gathered on the spot. The people were on the verge of throwing stones when they heard the Guru's divine invocation. The sweet words of God entered their ears and the people in remorse of their actions went to their Pir and told him of the presence of a holy man.

The Pir, having reached the place, enquired from Mardana who the holy man was. He was told that he was Nanak who had rejected all others except one God who was all pervading on earth, sky and in all four directions. Guru Nanak Dev Ji stayed for a number of days and the people flocked to his side eagerly listening to the word of God. Guru Sahib Ji had many discourses with the local holy men.

One day Guru Sahib Ji was sleeping and his feet were towards the Kaaba. When challenged by the local Imam, Guru Ji replied "point my feet where God is not." The local Imam ashamed of his actions asked Guru Sahib Ji to do kalma with him. As the Imam started his kalma Guru Ji did not. Guru Ji asked him "What is the use of meaningless ritual when your mind is somewhere else trying to work out how to get the best price for your horses." Guru Ji had no need for kalma for he sang the Almighty's name 24/7.

Before his departure from there he was presented a chola (robe) as a token of respect on which verses in arabic were inscribed. This chola lies preserved in the Gurdwara at Dera Baba Nanak, in Pakistan. The chola was given to Guru Sahib Ji by his devotees in Bagdhad and there was no alterier motive, Guru Sahib Ji took it in the spirit in which it was given. Pir Babhol, a Sufi saint was deeply influenced by Guru Nanak Dev.

Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj did not offend and explained it came down to the Revelation by God. All Prophets could only speak the Truth of the Revelation made to them but the Revelation they received was determined by the Spiritual Stage they had reached. Akaal Purakh Revealed 7 earths & 7 skies to Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) but Revealed Countless skies and Countless earths to Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj.

[proactive]

Sikhlionz,

You are a moderator here so I find it surprising that you write PBUH after writing Mohammed? No Sikh in history has ever written PBUH after mentioning Mohammed. Bhai Gurdas does not write PBUH after mentioining Mohammed. Guru Gobind Singh calls Mohammed 'Mahdeen' and did not write PBUH after his name. In the Janamsakhis when Guru Nanak mentions Mohammed he doesn't say PBUH after mentioning him. So why has it become a fashion amongst some Sikhs nowadays to write PBUH after writing Mohammed. I suggest you or any other Sikh takes the time out to research the reason why believing Muslims say PBUH after mentioning Mohammed.

Here's the reason why

Qur'anic evidence for asking the blessings on Muhammad

Peace be upon him, written in Arabic

In the translation of the meanings of the Qur'an in Surah 33 entitled Al-Ahzab (The Confederates), ayah (verse) 56:

"Allah sends His Salah on the Prophet (Muhammad), and also His angels (do so). Oh you who believe! Send your Salah on (i.e. ask Allah to bless) him (Muhammad) and greet him with the Islamic way of greeting (i.e. as-Salaam Alaykum, which means peace be upon you)" (33:56)

The Islamic scholar, ibn Kathir, entitled the section in his tafsir (i.e., explanation of the Qur'an) regarding this verse, "The Command to say Salah upon the Prophet (Muhammad)."

This point is further founded in the saying by Muhammad that, "The misser is the one in whose presence I am mentioned, then he does not send the Salah upon me." This was recorded by Ahmad ibn Hanbal in his Musnad.

Hadith evidence for asking the blessing on Muhammad

The evidence for sending Salah on Muhammad is not limited to the Qur'an. It is also found in hadith about Muhammad. Examples include:

At-Tirmidhi recorded that Abu Hurayrah said:

"The Messenger of Allah said, May he be humiliated, the man in whose presence I am mentioned and he does not send Salah upon me; may he be humiliated, the man who sees the month of Ramadan come and go, and he is not forgiven; may he be humiliated, the man whose parents live to old age and they do not cause him to be granted admittance to Paradise."

At-Tirmidhi said that this hadith was, "Hasan gharib" (Good but only reported once).

Sahih Muslim, Sunan Abu Dawud, Sunan at-Tirmidhi, and Sunan an-Nasa'i, recorded that Abu Hurayrah said,

"The Messenger of Allah said: Whoever sends one salah upon me, Allah will send ten upon him."

Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal reported in his Musnad that the companion of Muhammad, Abu Talhah al-Ansari said:

"One morning the Messenger of Allah was in a cheerful mood and looked happy. They said, 'Oh Messenger of Allah, this morning you are in a cheerful mood and look happy.' He said, Of course, just now someone [an angel] came to me from my Lord [Allah] and said, 'Whoever among your Ummah sends Salah upon you, Allah will record for him ten good deeds and will erase for him ten evil deeds, and will raise his status by ten degrees, and will return his greeting with something similar to it.'"

The isnad (chain of narrators) of this hadith is good.

It was reported by Razin ibn Mu'awiyah in his book Jami al-Usool that Muhammad said:

A supplication remains suspended between heaven and earth and does not ascend any further until a person sends Salah on me. Do not treat me like a spare water container, send Salah upon me at the beginning of your supplication, at the end, and in the middle.

[Harjeet.Singh]

Back in those times many of the religions were fighting doing the "my God is better than your God thing" Even though their religions said there was only one supreme God, they still tried to make their version of God more powerfuller. And this is still happening today.

I like all those names, don't see a problem with them, but they are not even a few of God's qualities, his virtues are endless, and we cannot even desribe a few of them. But if they were trying to sum up God, this is impossible, God is beyond human comprehension.

[sikhlionz]

before anyone bites my head off

Sikhlionz,

You are a moderator here so I find it surprising that you write PBUH after writing Mohammed? No Sikh in history has ever written PBUH after mentioning Mohammed. Bhai Gurdas does not write PBUH after mentioining Mohammed. Guru Gobind Singh calls Mohammed 'Mahdeen' and did not write PBUH after his name. In the Janamsakhis when Guru Nanak mentions Mohammed he doesn't say PBUH after mentioning him. So why has it become a fashion amongst some Sikhs nowadays to write PBUH after writing Mohammed. I suggest you or any other Sikh takes the time out to research the reason why believing Muslims say PBUH after mentioning Mohammed.

Proactive Veerji clearly i am nowhere near the spiritual level of Guru Mahraj nor of Bhai Gurdas ji. Someone who is PhD can refer to Kindergarten class however they wish.

Satguru jee in Gurbani does not refer to Krishan as Krishan Maharaj yet personally when i occasionally refer to Avatars of Sanatan Dharam i tend to add the term Maharaj. Similarly i find nothing in itself wrong with saying PBUH. If you do, you're most welcome to refer to him in any way you wish.

Nowhere have i condoned this or said Sangat Jee I hereby declare everyone should refer to Prophet Mohammed in this way, it's just how i personally occasionally choose to.

This is not only used for Mohammed, Muslims praise the name of Jesus Christ, Moses and the names of the Old and New Testament prophets by adding the same PBUH acronym after their names.

PBUH means 'Peace Be Upon Him'. It is the English meaning of the Arabic words, 'Allah's Salaam' (Alayhis salaam). Allah, Illahi, Salaam are used regularly in Gurbani so what's wrong with saying may God grant a Bhagat of another faith peace?

granted we have been critical of the ways Prophets of different faiths may have "lost their way" but none of us have reached anything like that spiritual level to judge. hence even if you disagree entirely with their approach you lose nothing in affording respect.

[.- Prabhjot Singh -.]

Wjkk Wjkf Ji

:goodpost: Harjeet.Singh ji just going to add to what you said about people fighting over 'whos' God is better n all. Couple of years back when I was staying in uni halls of residences, I had 3 pakistani muslims staying in the same corridor, we would get along fine, but as you said, the whole indirect slandering started soon. So, I made them sit and explained tukks from Jaap Sahib, and showed them how Guruji praises The One with different names, the persian (i believe) verses struck a chord with one of them at least and realised, in part at least, that its the same God both of us praising. Others, unfortunately, thought Im a Kuffar believing in 'distorted' version of islam n all. But I felt glad with Guruji's kirpa on me I could change someones thinking!

Hope rest of humanity realises this as well so that earth can be a better place to live for all!

Bhull Chukk Maaf ji

[Mehtab Singh]

granted we have been critical of the ways Prophets of different faiths may have "lost their way" but none of us have reached anything like that spiritual level to judge.

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[proactive]

Sikhlionz,

You obviously didn't bother to read the quotes within my post. It is for Muslims ie believers. Perhaps my post was not clear enough, it is for the BELIEVERS of Mohammed's prophethood to say PBUH after mentioning him. Do you believe in Mohammed as a prophet and all that comes with it? I assume not. There is no need to divert from the question and come up with the usual 'i'm, not as spiritual as abc etc' The Gurus never wrote PBUH after Mohammed because they understood that only those who BELIEVE in Mohammed use PBUH after his name. What next? Will you be fasting at Ramadan or beating your brains out at a Shia siapa over Hussein?

At least before acting all ultra PC by using PBUH you should educate yourself over who uses it and what is the reason behind it.

[Bijla Singh]

I think Sikhs these days play the card of "spiritual level" ignorantly. No one is at the same spiritual level as Guru Sahib and no one can be yet Sikhs keep the same rehat Guru Sahib kept including keeping five kakkar and tying dastaar. Sikhs have the same last name as Guru Sahib. We make judgements based on Gurbani so it is perfectly fine to state what Mohammad and others did right and wrong. It is not our judgement but Gurmat's judgement. For example, if Gurbani says idol worship is false then who are we to say we shouldn't judge and call it false?