*seris Of Terror Attacks In Mumbai** Bomb Blasts Shootings Indian Sources Say @ Least 80 Dead

[SaRpAnCh]

And I dont think hindu hindutva terrorists would be stupid enough to want to murder people at random their own people, then try to blow up Indian historical buildings like the taj hotel.

could not of said it better then that.

They did it in Gujarat 2002 and in the attack on the Indian Parliament not to mention the Kashmir massacre of Sikhs in which Bill Clinton himself says Hindu Fanatics carried out and blamed Kashmiris,after that attack Mandirs were blown up and that was also found out to be by the Indian Army,going back to the 80's they killed their own hindus on buses and blamed Bhindranwle and the Sikhs these people are capable of anything Cool water this is not about siding with Muslims Jihadists or fanatical Al Qaedan Terrorists its the truth , you ask about Isreal and why would they attack them, reason for that is Obama already wants to attack Pakistan and Isreal is already an ally in the war on terror led by the US if India had its 9/11 it would stregthen support for India form the US and Isreal with a few jews dying that would annoy Isreal and in turn if a Indo Pak war happens Isreal will support India

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Another discussion 4/5 parts

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[Raju]

here are some Hindu terrorists ..

[SaRpAnCh]

http://www.pak-times.com/2008/12/01/hindut...ror-dal-khalsa/

[SaRpAnCh]

It's probably significant that the head of Mumbai's anti-terror squad and two of his staff were assassinated as part of this co-ordinated attack.

The background context is that Mumbai is run by the very extreme Shiv Sena (army of Shiva) party who have advocated acts of violence against Moslims, and have overseen an increasing sectarian division of the city. It's leader recently called for the formation of Hindu suicide squads. The current issue of Newsweek covers the wider Hindutva or Hindu supremacist movement and its massive influence on Indian life.

consider the BJP's candidate for prime minister this time around. Lal Krishna Advani is an aging rabble-rouser who in the mid-1990s helped gather a huge Hindu mob that tore down the 16th-century Babri Mosque, leading to riots that killed more than 2,000 people (Advani was later cleared of criminal charges). He is far more radical than his predecessor, Atal Behari Vajpayee, who served as prime minister from 1998 to 2004. And Advani's heir apparent is Gujarat's chief minister, Narendra Modi—who has been denied entry to the United States for his alleged role in the 2002 riots in Gujarat that killed more than 1,000. Not long after the riots, Modi warned a crowd that Muslims were trying to erode India's Hindu majority by having many children. "We have to teach a lesson to those who are increasing the population at an alarming rate," he said.

...The explanation for the BJP's rightward tilt lies with its increased reliance on its parent organization, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS)...The RSS advocates a philosophy known as Hindutva and favors turning India into a Hindu state (the country's population is 80 percent Hindu) and designating religious minorities as second-class citizens. Without its nationalist ideology it wouldn't be clear what the BJP stood for.

While just the other day I noted the arrest of 10 Hindu supremacist terrorists, including a current Colonel in military intelligence and three former military officers - suggesting that there's reason aplenty for escalating <banned word filter activated>-for-tat sectarian violence.

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Theatre?

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Imran Baabar of Deccan Mujahideen talks to India TV :

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=AqXI-IUF6dc&...feature=related

Interview with Shahadullah of Deccan Mujahideen is also there in the adjoining list of videos :

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=-23xKJEzxPA

We heard both these interviews live on India TV .

[SaRpAnCh]

Beware, a sinister game is being played

ISLAMABAD: Without waiting for any investigative results, the US and its allies seem to have condemned Pakistan in the context of the Mumbai attacks. Condoleezza Rice’s statements in New Delhi and Islamabad have had an underlying accusatory sense — especially her declaration that Pakistan had a “special responsibility”.

Why, when we have stated categorically that there is nothing substantive linking Pakistan or Pakistanis to the carnage in Mumbai? Mullen’s statement in Islamabad has also had similar accusatory underpinnings when he asked President Zardari to act against groups linked to Mumbai. How? Should we strike against Hindu militants in India? Or has the US already decided about the groups to be targeted on the pretext of Mumbai? And the less said about the US media and Obama the better.

As for Britain’s Miliband, his neo-imperialism was at its peak when he declared that the international community must make Pakistan realise that modern threats emanate from within the country, not from external sources. Too bad, he cannot see that for his own country!

However, the real question is why such pre-emptive hype against Pakistan? Clearly, with rumours about the US also seeking to put past ISI chiefs on the UN terrorist list, the US, aided and abetted by India, which has already moved to impose a unilateral “solution” on Sir Creek, is moving to the next stage of its Pakistan agenda whereby it seeks to destabilise Pakistan, send in international forces and seek control of the nuclear assets and eventually, if feasible, balkanise the country.

What can Pakistan do? Certainly, the leadership can stop making statements that play into US/Indian hands. For example, to declare that both India and Pakistan are fighting the same terrorists is to admit that our extremists were responsible for the Mumbai carnage. This has not been established. Again, to declare, in the style of the 2004 Pak-India joint statement that we will not allow Pakistan to be used for terrorism implies an admission that so far is what we have been allowing. Perhaps the less our leaders speak, the better it will be for the country in the present circumstances.

It was unfortunate that given the judgemental statement in New Delhi by Rice, our leadership could not have told her that she should not come to Islamabad at present — that we were unable to receive her right now. Nothing would have conveyed our perspective as clearly as this one move.

What is the reality regarding Mumbai? Let us look at some disturbing facts that are being deliberately downplayed by India and the US.

First: There is the killing of the ATC Chief, Hemant Karkare, who was responsible for exposing Hindu militants and the Indian Army officers in the Samjhota Express and Malegaon acts of terrorism. His widow has refused to accept the state government’s compensation.

Second: The orange thread wristbands on one of the terrorists — a sign of belonging to the Hindu extremists of the RSS.

Third: No Lashkar-e-Taiba member would ever be clean shaven. Also, they have always admitted to their actions.

Fourth: The Mumbai area has seen acts of terrorism by Hindu extremists before.

Fifth: Was the intelligence and security forces’ failure deliberate, given the growing revelations of Indian Army officers being linked to Hindu extremists? Given that the Mumbai terrorism was extremely well-rehearsed and professional, could renegades from the Indian Army have been involved?

Sixth: The haste — in fact a pre-emptive campaign of smear, begun by the state government officials, even while the action was still ongoing — with which the Indian state and the media are targeting Muslims and Pakistan makes one wonder whether there is something lethal internally within India that needs to be hidden?

Seventh: This is not the first time acts of terror attributed by India to Muslim “extremists” have turned out to have been carried out by either state forces or Hindu extremists. Remember Chattisinghpura, Malegaon and Samjhota Express?

This is time for Pakistan to adopt a firm, dignified and “enough is enough” approach. We need not extend any pre-emptive cooperation unless the Indians are prepared to accept a joint investigation with us in which we have access to all the information, materials and people (including the dead terrorists for our own examination).

Pakistan is already fighting two kinds of terrorism: extremist militancy by non-state actors (a word President Zardari seems to have just discovered!) and state terrorism from the neighbourhood and beyond. Perhaps the one statement our leaders should learn and repeat over and over again to the Indians is Sonia Gandhi’s declaration: “friendship should not be taken for weakness”. Clearly the Indians are confusing one with the other in the case of Pakistan.

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NOTE: Chittasinghpura Massacre of Sikhs was found in the end to be the work of Hindu Fanatics as well,India blamed Muslim Militants and even caught 'dead' terrorists at that time as well.

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Karkare investigations into army-terrorist nexus caused Mumbai carnage

Islamabad- Saffron terrorist groups belonging to Sangh Parivar were behind the recent Mumbai Carnage and several suicidal attacks and assassinations in Pakistan and India reveal the latest findings of Daily Mail. According to these findings Indian terrorist setup Atma Ghataki Pathak (Hindu Suicide Squad), established by General ® Premnath Hoon founder of Shiv Sena’s Military Wing and his disciple Colonel ® Jayant Chitale, was responsible for planning and execution of this operation. AGP because of its close linkages with the Indian military has succeeded in forming an unholy nexus between the serving Indian military personnel and the Hindu extremist-terrorist groups. Lt Col Shrikant Purohit, alias 'Mithun Chakraborty' who was arrested in connection with the Malegaon blast and 2007 Samjhauta Express blaze ( killing 69 Pakistani passengers returning from India) was also working for General ® Hoon and Colonel ® Chitale’s Atma Ghataki Pathak (AGP). AGP was also responsible for Godhra train fire leading to Gujarat carnage against Muslims in 2002 and attack on Akshardham temple in Gujarat also in 2002. Colonel ® Jayant Chitale and his associate Sanjeev Atre, were arrested in November 2002 for running a suicide training camp on the outskirts of Mumbai and but were later released at the intervention of RAW. It is no coincidence that Col ® Chitale is now the next door neighbour of Col Purohit, the main accused in Samjhauta Express blaze and Malegaon blasts.

The Daily Mail investigations indicate multiple objectives of the recent Mumbai carnage. Firstly, it aimed at eliminating Hemant Karkare who had uncovered AGP’s invovement in the serial bomb blasts in Thane, Vashi and Panvel and the 29 September 2008 blast in Malegaon and Sumjhauta Express inferno in 2007. In Malegaon incident three bombs had exploded in Gujarat and Maharashtra of India, killing eight people and injuring 80 (two bombs were detonated in Malegaon, Maharashtra, killing seven). Karkare had earlier in his carrer also worked for RAW, the India's external intelligence agency and remained on an undercover diplomatic assignment in the Indian Embassy in Austria for seven years.Being thus aware of this unholy nexus, Karakare was able to nab some of its key culprits including Lt Col Shrikant Purohit. Secondly the Mumbai bloodbath was aimed at diverting the attention of the media and international community from the home spun Indian terrorist networks that were causing grave doubts on Indian claims of being a victim of foregn sponsored terrorism.

Daily Mail’s investigations into the encounter leading to the cold blooded assasination of Karakare and his team investgating the terrorism perpetrated by Indian home grown terrorists reveals that the terrorist were staking out for Karkare and that Karkare also had revealed threats to his life to his wife, because of which, she refused to accept compensation from Indian government. According to Constable Arun Jadhav, who was with the officers Hemant Karkare, Vijay Salaskar and Ashok Kamte when they were assasinated, the three officers and four constables had received information that their collegue Sadanand Dutt had been injured in the gunfire at the Cama and Albless Hospital for women and children. They took a Toyota Qualis which was being driven by Salaskar while Kamte was in the passenger seat, Karkare in the second row, and the four Constables, including Jadhav, were in the back row of seating. According to Jadhav, five minutes later two terrorists stepped out from behind a tree and opened fire with automatic rifles. The six policemen, other than Jadhav, were all killed quickly in the gunfire. The two terrorists approached the vehicle, dumped the bodies of the three officers on the road and, leaving the constables for dead. They proceeded to Metro Junction where they aimed three bursts of automatic fire at police and journalist vehicles drawn up at that location, then drove off towards the government offices (Vidhan Bhawan) in South Mumbai. Here again they fired several times. While attempting to leave the area, one of the tires of the vehicle burst, so the terrorists departed to obtain another vehicle. At this point, Jadhav emerged from the heap of dead bodies of his collegue constables and was able to contact headquarters.

Findings of Daily Mail on the background of these saffron terror networks further reveal that Shiv Sena’s Bal Thakeray publicly pronounced in the past to setup Hindu suicide squads to target Muslims in India and Pakistan which, was actually an admittance of a longstanding policy of Saffron terrorist groups in India. The terrorist activities and training needs of these groups are closely coordinated by the Indian intelligence agencies particularly RAW, which often relies on Saffron volunteers of these groups to carry out missions with high risk of life.

There is a long-standing internal feud amongst Hindutva groups vying for ascendancy with each other. Although Bal Thackeray is probably the most popular icon with cultist following amongst the Hindu fanatics yet at times he has shown signs of frustration that this popularity has not translated in electoral successes outside his home state of Maharashtra. Much to Thackeray’s annoyance when it comes to votes, BJP through a broader and more organized supporting network of RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal managed to steel electoral success at the cost of Sena. Although his Shiv Sena (Hindu God Shiv’s Army) was in coalition with BJP in the Union Government and in the state of Maharashtra, Thakeray was not happy with the portfolios allotted to his party.

Thakeray who has always maintained big political ambitions now wants to assume the image of militant Hindutva’s sole champion in a bid to woo many elements in the ranks and file RSS, VHP and Bajrang Dal that are disillusioned with the BJP. These disgruntled elements regard top leadership of BJP, all of whom incidentally are concurrent members of RSS and VHP, to be “soft paddling” on converting India into a Hindu Rashstra (Hindu State) denouncing secular character of its constitution. A former Minister belonging to Shiv Sena in Indian Cabinet reflected these sentiments in 2003 stating that “everyone living in India must either be a Hindu or subservient to Hindus”. Nonetheless, the core supporters of militant Hindutva feel that time is ripe to make this declaration and the doctrine of Hindu Rashstra to become a state policy by formally ending the secular constitutional status of India. Sensing the infuriation of these elements Thackeray finally let the cat out the bag in a further recruitment drive of Hindu fanatics to his camp by giving an open call for Hindu suicide squads.

Daily Mail findings further reveal that concept of suicide squads was introduced in South Asia for the first time by the Indian intelligence agency RAW when it trained the Tamil separatists groups of Sri Lanka such as the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Elam (LTTE) to start militant secessionist movement based on terrorism in the Sri Lanka’s Jaffna peninsula. Daily Mail has learned that two names that surfaced in press in November 2002, in connection with Hindu Atma Ghataki Pathak (Hindu Suicide Squad), General ® Premnath Hoon former Chief of Western Command and who after retirement became Chief of Shiv Sena’s Military Wing and Colonel ® Jayant Chitale, had served on deputation with RAW imparting training on the Sri Lankan Tamil militants. Col ® Jayant Chitale also headed the Army Services Selection Board Centre in Pune for several years, where he was able to select Hindutva militant sympathizers for regular commission in the army. Col ® Chitale kept a contact with these recruits who through normal and sponsored progression in their careers went on to assume many responsible and important posts in the Indian army.

Daily Mail finding further disclose that Justice (Retd.) Jain, commissioned to investigate and report on the murder of late Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi’s assassination by an LTTE suicide killer, documented the existence of ‘militant’ training camps for LTTE and other Sri Lankan Tamil secessionist groups through out India, under the aegis of RAW and other Indian intelligence and security agencies. Former Indian Prime Minister V.P. Singh disclosed during his in camera hearing before the Jain Commission on 5th November 1996 that the first batch of training of Sri Lankan Tamil militants was done by India in 1983 under the orders of then Prime Minister (Late) Mrs. Indira Gandhi. The camp was located at Chakrata, Tamil Nadu. Singh, however, declined to disclose exact location citing national security reasons. According to him all militants were also provided with weapons and monetary backup to carryout activities inside of Sri Lanka. He further disclosed that ironically late Rajiv Gandhi also encouraged and supported training of LTTE and other Tamil militant groups.

Former Indian Foreign Secretary Salman Haider also provided a very incisive insight to the Commission in his affidavit number 343/96-JCI. Haider who was liaising between the LTTE terrorist maestro leader Prabharkaran and Indian intelligence agencies at one time disclosed that “in the beginning Mrs. Indira Gandhi entrusted full responsibility of providing military training to Sri Lankan Tamil militants to RAW”. Prabharkaran was however, not pleased with the share of spoils that local RAW operatives were giving to LTTE in comparison with its rival militant terrorist groups TELO, EROS, EPRLF, and TEA. He thus asked for Haider’s intervention, upon which the former arranged a meeting of Prabharkran with the officials of Indian Intelligence Bureau (IIB). Thus training of LTTE was shifted to IIB from RAW. This created an inter intelligence agency rivalry and according to Haider, RAW was behind attacks by Tamil Elam Liberation Organization (TELO) and Elam Peoples Revolutionary Liberation Front (EPRLF) on LTTE.

Former Advisor (to Mrs. Gandhi) K. Mohandas in his affidavit number 64/92-JCI disclosed to the Jain Commission that different intelligence agencies and Prime Minister’s advisors were vying with each other to provide training and facilitating the Lankan Tamil militants due to big money involved. Military training was provided by central agencies in Union government controlled camps in the states of Tamil Nadu, Karnatka, Uttar Pardesh, Kerala, New Delhi and elsewhere. According to Mohandas militants were trained, armed and launched into Sri Lanka to carry out subversion and attacks. Perhaps his most shocking revelation was that the LTTE and other militant groups were also provided training in the Indian Military Academy Dehra Dun, which incidentally is the basic military training institution for officers of Indian army.

In the meanwhile RAW started a parallel terrorist training programme targeted against Pakistan. It encouraged fanatic Hindu groups such as Shiv Sena, RSS, Bajrang Dal, Durga Vahini, Saffron Tigers, Soldiers of Hindutva, Hindu Jagran Munch and others to maintain their own trained militant squads. These militants are trained in rioting and indiscriminate killing of minority communities in mob attacks, particularly Muslims and Christians, where simple small arms such as machetes, trishols, and staffs prove lethal owing to the sheer numbers of attackers and the impunity with which they operate owing to state backing. Diehard volunteers are picked for elite squad from these disciples who are then trained for more sophisticated targeted assassinations and terrorist acts. These RAW trained terrorist groups have carried out several attacks inside Pakistan, which have also been reported by international media and think-tanks such as Federation of American Scientists (FAS).

According to Daily Mail’s findings the fanaticism of these Hindu suicide squads took a spine shuddering concept of ‘target reverse’ suicide attacks in early 2000s as witnessed in the reverse suicidal attacks against Hindu temples and government installations to blame Pakistan and Muslims. The attacks on Indian parliament in 2001, Godhra train fire in Gujarat and attack on Akshardham temple in Gujarat.

It may be recalled that the official findings of Forensic Science Laboratory of Ahmedabad, revealed that the fire in the Sabarmati Express at Godhra, in 2002 which became Casus belli for Muslim mayhem in Gujrat, was set from within the train compartment all filled with Hindu passengers and not from any outside pouring of gasoline by Muslim vendors on the train station, as alleged by Hindu fanatics. According to, Forensic Science Laboratory’s Assistant Director M J Dahiya about 60 litres of highly inflammable material inside the train, probably petrol, was responsible for the fire in the S-6 coach of Sabarmati Express. Giving evidence before the Justice G T Nanavati and Justice Shah Commission of Inquiry, Dahiya had ruled out the possibility of the coach catching fire from outside as that would have left its effect on the outside of the coach. Besides, the quantity of fuel required to set it on fire could not have been poured from outside. He said that a large number or quantity of burning objects or liquids could not have been thrown inside and neither would burning rags alone result in such a big fire that burnt the entire coach in just 40 minutes. It is pertinent that all the passengers inside the compartment comprised Hindu Kersevaks, as it was a train especially reserved for them and the group members knew each other. There was no chance for an outsider to get in to set fire as he or she would have immediately spotted. Thus it was a clear act of a Hindu suicide volunteer carrying large quality of inflammable liquid, who self immolated to create raison d’ etre for carrying out Gujarat carnage.

In light of these facts that speak loudly, the analysts believe that Mumbai carnage is another act of India’s home spun and nurtured saffron terrorists with the main objective of eliminating Mumbai anti-terrorist squad Chief Hemant Karkare and his colleagues to sabotage the on going investigations into the unholy nexus between Indian military and terrorist networks with gratuitous benefit of maligning Pakistan.

[SaRpAnCh]

Terror attack planned by RSS and allies? (Indian Site)

http://www.sahilonline.org/english/news.ph...ce&nid=4133

[khalsaforce]

Some of the stuff he says is understandable but killing innocents regardless of muslim killings cannot be justified in any court of law. The way I think is the United States and the Indian intelligence probably planned the attacks to create a excuse for a invasion in pakistan....what ya'll think? I could be right or wrong

Imran Baabar of Deccan Mujahideen talks to India TV :

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=AqXI-IUF6dc&...feature=related

Interview with Shahadullah of Deccan Mujahideen is also there in the adjoining list of videos :

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=-23xKJEzxPA

We heard both these interviews live on India TV .