Sikhs Attacked At Nottingham Semi Fianl By Pakistanis

[virk30]

Firstly, Waheguru ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji KI Fateh. First off 'Kpanthmovement you are a total nutcase' Khalsa ji the Khalsa Panth Movement is not one person its Khalsa trying to make a difference in our panth.

Your say we can learn everything from all the other (oriental) martial arts, why do you want to go around in a circle when you can go straight to the source? Why don't you learn the vidiya that Guru Gobind Singh Ji taught? BUT NO. IM SURE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. BECAUSE YOUR INTUITION IS PERFECT. YOU ARE DIVINE. BECAUSE GURU JI TAUGHT US MAUY THAI ISNT IT?????

What you are saying is that we should disregard the teachings of our gurus, dasam granth, and sarbloh granth. We should instead do the wai kru chicken dance.

Again, why would we be posting venue times and details of shastar vidya being taught? If we were disregarding the teaching of the Gurus and Dasam Granth Sahib then why would we promote this?> http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=45302

Already youve took your kirpan out and you don't know the full story, God bless you Veer Ji

sorry dude ive seen sikh martial arts they wouldn't work against martial arts like krav mega, don't forget we were defeated by the british cause the created stronger army's, but maharaja ranjit singh was smart hiring european mercenary's to teach us european way of battle to help us conquer the pushtans in the nwfp

[virk30]

if someone is going to insult my sikhi <banned word filter activated> it im fighting it can be 30 on 1 or 70 on 1 ill take my beats rather then bow down, its a cricket match and cricket is for wussy's who can't play real sports, the pakistanis acted hardcore cause its 70 on 1 hence why they can only play cricket and the sikhs their got scared hence why they can only play cricket

[dalsingh101]

Kaljug Singh - So true

[manni007]

Kalyug Singh, it doesnt help either when so called Sikhs like Sarpanch say these SInghs deserved getting beaten up for wearing / supporting Indian cricket team??

His response to the Singh getting the Pakistani flag put over his head and beer poured over it by TWO Pakistanis, whilst the Paki crown young and old roared in APPROVAL, was "Jao Juttiya Kao??

VERY UPSETTING

[RavidassiSikh]

Fateh!

From some of the comments on this thread, I get the impression that some of you would watch a Sikh get beaten, his dastaar abused, and his beliefs ridiculed unless you knew for certain that he: didn't drink, didn't smoke, had never trimmed his beard, never plucked a stray eyebrow hair, believed (or disbelieved - delete as appropriate) in ragmaala being bani, was a lacto-ovo-vegetarian, was Amritdhari (but only if he took amrit from AKJ/DDT/other - delete as appropriate), believed in kesh/keski being kakaar, and woke up every amritvela without fail. Furthermore, I feel that some of you would even feel smug and superior about displaying such cowardice.

If you don't believe that monay, trim Singhs, alcohol-drinking meat-eating Punjabis of Sikh ancestry, are not real Sikhs, show them the way by standing up and defending these people when necessary, even if you really feel that they are so inferior to you that merely eating food from their hands will pollute your divine presence.

I have monay Punjabi friends who would risk injury and even death to protect dastaar and daara of a Sikh they saw being attacked and bullied, because they have that much respect for Guru's gifts. The fact that they are not yet ready to take amrit themselves is a matter that is between them and God, but I would prefer them as friends than some of the Amritdhari Sikhs I have met, on this forum and in real life, who have become so conceited after receiving Guru's gift that they consider even their rank cowardice to be a virtue.

Regards,

K.

Veer Ji - I was compelled to respond to your comments... just to say this is an excellent posting!

Waheguru...Waheguru...Waheguru...

[Shastar Man]

VJKK VJKF

Dear all,

We need to stand tall and united. Muslims will only prey on the weak, they only act hard when they outnumber you.

I remember that there was a sikh group in Birmingham - blood and honour, who had run ins with muslims last year.

They stuck together ans muslims backed down. Any one know about them, perhaps they could teach people how to stick together?

Just a thought

VJKK VJKF

[Lotus_Flower_]

Kaljug singh i have to commend you on your reply, you truly are a guru ka sikh who is very intelligent unlike these teenage internet heros with too much testerone.

[manni007]

Pakistani fans Terrorise INDIANS and South Africans.......This was Nottingham after the game!!!!

at 42 secs a SINGH in his car gets AMBUSHED!

the skinny paki had no fear of the singh, this is the same game in which the singh had beer poured over his turban, and was choked

[Kaljug Singh]

Fateh!

Let me just say, the my previous post was not supposed to be a condemnation of any Singhs in particular, or even Sikhs in general. The point is that a rehatvaan Amritdhari keshdari Sikh should lead by example - Sikhs don't go around converting people, and the only reason that Sikhs become Singhs is because they have the good fortune of having sangat of these ideal Sikhs. Your dastaar, daara and 5 kakaar should be outward signs of an inward glory - your example should inspire others to follow in your footsteps.

If you want non-Sikhs to be influenced by Sikhi, it's not going to happen if you refuse their sangat or become judgemental and intolerant in their presence. That kind of behaviour just turns people off. That doesn't mean you have to approve of their behaviour which is unSikh, or, for example, go to pubs with them and hope that your presence will make them uncomfortable enough that it will prevent them from drinking. All you really have to do is explain why Sikhs should not drink alcohol and that a Sikh chooses to partake of a form of intoxication that lasts forever and does not result in a hangover. You should not only tell them this, your personality should show this is the case - it should be obvious from your personality that you do not have to rely on alcohol to be confident, courageous, sociable, witty, successful and comfortable in your own skin and at peace with yourself.

If you refuse to engage with people who have not been blessed with Guru's kirpa, you display your superiority complex and people are made to feel inferior and insulted with the result that they will keep a distance - from you and from Sikhi in general. If you condemn people with your judgemental attitude, you give the impression that Sikhs and Sikhi despises and abominates weak people who cannot uphold rehat - with the result that people avoid you and learning about Sikhi. If you refuse to help someone in trouble, whether they are being physically abused or just in need of someone to listen to them, simply because they do not have Sikhi roop or behave in unSikh-like ways, you make Sikhs look cowardly and lacking in compassion.

Not everyone is at the same level in their Sikhi - some are just beginning their journey, some have already arrived at their destination, others are taking a break at a reststop, and a few have been distracted off the path by shiny things they find on the way. Some simply have a different understanding of Sikhi because their avastha is not the same as yours, and some follow rehat which may be odds with your interpretation of Gurbani or the rehat that you yourself follow. Yet, you sit (or have sat) with all of these people in the langar hall of your gurdwara - why should it be any different outside?

If you are committed to Sikh unity (and not to dividing the Panth according to caste/rehat maryada/jatha/keshdari-sehajdhari/chatka-veg/amritdhari-nonamritdhari/whatever), it is in your hands and yours alone to carry over the equality and acceptance you feel for others in the langar hall in to the larger world outside the Gurdwara.

Regards,

K.

[manni007]

Pakistani fans Terrorise INDIANS and South Africans.......This was Nottingham after the game!!!!

at 42 secs a SINGH in his car gets AMBUSHED!

the skinny paki had no fear of the singh, this is the same game in which the singh had beer poured over his turban, and was choked