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Ragi Darshan Singh Gone Mad --- 1

Guru Gobind singh apart from being Guru of sikhs was a literary giant, a gifted soldier, a poet par excellence and a great literary person.Wise persons acknowledge depth of his writings.

Darshan singh has failed to understand writings of Guru sahib when he attached a story from Dasam granth to Guru sahib's life. While delivering a lecture at Rouchester Gurudwara, New York, USA, Ragi darshan singh said as below.

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"These words are about Guru Gobind Singh. At dead of night Guru Gobind singh goes to a prostitue's house, disrobes himself and sits on bed of that prositute. She offers herself. She says if you do not accept my proposal of physical relationship, i will shout and get you arrested as a thief. Guru Gobind singh ji becomes double minded thinking if i have physical relationship with her, offspring will be called a pimp.If i do not then she will get me caught.When guru sahib does not agree she creates a scene, Guru sahib gets scared and tries to escape while leaving behind his shoe and shawl.Listening to her cries for help, people and her brother gather.It is written further that Guru ji is caught, people take off his turban,hold his beard and it is written that shoes were used there."


Above is height of nonsense uttered by Darsahn singh. He claims that this is found in charitras 21,22 and 23 of Charitropakhayan in dasam granth. On analysing these charitras we did not find anything like this in these charitras.Rather These charitras proejct Guru sahib a very skilled writer who takes an existing story of ancient times to great height by providing local setting.

Pakhyan itself means story is coming out of an existing story. Story is always a story and is not real. To project a story as history shows inadequate knowledge of Darshan singh and lack of ability to understand literature.We will continue to detail contents of these charitras in our next submission to expose foolishness of Ragi Darshan singh.

To be continued in part 2

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In the dasam granth what does it actually say? Esp the bit where this fool darshan singh is refering to

I will put a detailed background of these charitras in part 2. In a nutshell charitras are stories being told by a minister to his king. These stories existed before Guru ji retold those.

In the story a Raja goes to learn mantra from a rich lady. Darshan Ragi tells her a prostitute.here is no mention that raja sits on her bed.

When lady shouts her brother is caught by people.Her brother is given beating. This ragi tells that raja is given beating.

Ragi says that raja is Guru ji. That is a lie.

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Ragi darshan Singh Gone mad-- part 2

Ragi darshan Singh Gone mad-- part 2 Charitras 21,22 and 23 misquoted by Ragi darshan Singh are from Charitropakhayan

composition of Dasam Granth written by Guru Gobind Singh ji.Except for charitras first and

last rest are in mantri-bhup sambade form. Charitra means character and pakhayan means a story

that was already existing and is being retold.First charitra is invocation to God and last charitra

from where we get our chaupai sahib is essence of charitras. Rest charitras are third person

narration.It starts charitra 2 with fictional setting of ancient period wherein Raja Chittar

Singh is ruler of Chitrawati town. His wife Chaitarmati accuses his son Hanumant singh falsely and king is misled by her. He passes death order for his son.King has a wise minister who

recites him stories of characters of various women and men and asks king not to hang his son as

as his rani may be lying. The story concocted by ragi Darshan Singh at Rouchester in actulaity is as give below. .There is a king of pur anand, called Rai in the story, to whose kingdom a rich lady comes for a visit. She

gests infatuated with king and arranges for king's visit to her home by tricks. She wants to

have physical relationship with king. The king does not yield to her overtures and maintains

his character. Having failed in her mission she raises a cry for help terming raja as a thief.

Raja succeeds to escape and lady's brother is caught by people and is given shoe beating.

Her brother falls on ground and inspite of lady telling people that he was her brother

people keep on beating him and send him to jail.Lady and his brother are charged for

stealing king's shoe and shawl. Finally they are called to king's court and are pardoned.This is a story and story is not a historical happening. Only foolish man will call it

history as name pakhyan indicates that this story exists in skeleton form and is being

retold.Only Ragi can tell us under what lunatic spell he is attaching with life of Guru

Gobind singh ji. He not only attaches it on his own with guru Gobind singh's life but adds a lot of spicy eventson his own in order to create mischief. The rela message of story is an advice to us so as notto indulge oin extra marital affair. This story also give one of bajar kurehits to khlasa. It is a pityso called fake professor does not understand moral of story and intead is misleading by preachingfalsehood. He is also overstepping his brief as kittaniya is not supposed to do katha. Sikh rehatmaryada forbids that. There is already a hukamnama from akal takhat warning sangat to beware of ragi darshan singh

as he is a miscreant and misleads sangat on purpose.Earlier also he was in the news

for passing remarks against nitnem banis

Hi supporters should see reason and stop following him blindly. Instead they should read and learn themselves. Concluded

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Professor Dharsan Singh was a really good raagi and a knowledgeable person, I grew up listening to this katha, it's so sad that his changed and to me it looks like his lost it in his head.

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Professor Dharsan Singh was a really good raagi and a knowledgeable person, I grew up listening to this katha, it's so sad that his changed and to me it looks like his lost it in his head.

Prof. Darshan Singh knows exactly what hes doing. These low lifes got every thing planned out. They play their cards well. But they don't know that they are battling with the Khalsa. They are trying to take out the immortal army!!!!! Never in their life time or there childrens life time will they ever be able to finish their task. The Khalsa will finish it's enemy no matter what.

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Chritar Twenty-one

Tale of Anoop Kaur


The Monarch caught hold of his son and sent him to the prison, And

in the morning, through the Minister, called him back.(1)

Then he asked the Minster to narrate the Chritars of the wise men and

the women;(2)

On the banks of the river Sutlaj, there was a village by the name of


It was situated near Naina Devi which situated was in the state of


There used to come several Sikhs with great pleasure,

And after getting their ambitions fulfilled, they used to go back to

their homes.(4)

The wife of a rich-man came to that town.

She fell for the Raja and was pierced with his love arrows.(5)

She had a servant, Magan Das whom she called,

And gave him some money and made him to understand like this.( 6)

‘You get me to meet the Raja,

‘And after encountering him 1 will give you lot of wealth.’(7)

Becoming greedy for money, Magan came to the Raja,

Fell on his feet and requested thus,(8)

‘The incantation you wanted to learn, has come in my possession.

‘To learn the same you will have to proceed the way I ask.(9)

Bhujang Chhand

The Raja put on the garb of an ascetic, meditating on Bhagwati, the

goddess, commenced his journey.

Walking and walking along, without looking back, reached the

residence of that damsel.(10)

On seeing him the dame adorned herself and ordered for flowers,

beetle leaf and wine.

She came forward herself to receive him and pacified her anxiety.(11)


The woman weared the new clothes and put the expensive garments.

And in new form she adorned the decorated bed.(12)

Then the lady asked him, ‘Please have intercourse with me,


‘Because, tormented by Cupid, I am handing over myself to you.’(I3)

The monarch said ‘I had come to learn incantation,

But the situation is quite contrary (I4)


The one, who is considered as worship-worthy, should not become


If one becomes a rich man he should not beset the poor.

‘With prettiness one should not display arrogance,

‘Because the youth and beauty are sustainable for four (a few) days



‘Righteousness endows auspicious birth and righteousness confers


‘The righteousness augments the wealth and holiness and the

righteousness idealises the sovereignty.

‘Why should I abandon righteousness on your instance and make

myself worthy of hell? (l6)

‘Acquiescing to your request, I am not going to copulate with you,

‘Because, in my heart, I am apprehensive of denigrating my family.

‘Deserting behind my married woman (wife), I will never have sex with you.

‘I will never be able to find a place in the court of Lord of



(She said,) ‘When a sexually distressed woman comes to a male,

‘And that male who turns her back disappointed, is worthy of hell.’(l8)

(He replied,) ‘People bow on my feet and worship me.

‘And you want me to have sex with you.

Aren’t you ashamed of yourself?’( 19)

(She said,) ‘Krishna was worshipped too, and he had indulged in

love plays.

‘He made love with Radhika, but they never went to hell.(20)

‘With five elements Brahama, the God, created human-beings,

And He, Himself initiated love in men and women.(2l)


‘Therefore, without hesitation have sex with me,

Because the excitement for the sex overpowers all the parts of my body.

Without an encounter with you, I will burn in the fire of separation.(22)



‘My each limb, seeking copulation, is afflicting me.

‘Why didn’t Ruder, the Great (Shiva) decimated it (sexual desire).’(23)


(He) ‘Calm down, Oh Lady, the Cupid will not harm you.

‘You put your thought to Ruder, the Great, (Cupid) will be scared away.

‘Not to abandon my wife, I will never have sex with you.(24)


‘Just because you say, why should I have sex with you?

‘I am afraid of being put in the hell.

To copulate with you is like disowning the righteousness,

And my story will go around the whole world.(25)

‘How would I show my face to the Lord of Righteousness?

‘Lady, you better forsake the thought of my friendship,

‘You have said enough and, now, forget to talk more.’(26)

Anoop Kumari said, ‘If you, my love, have sex with me,

‘You will not be thrown in the hell. Don’t be scared.

‘How could people tattle about you when they are so afraid of you.(27)

Also they would talk only if they learn about the secret.

‘Even if one learns, fearful of you, will keep quiet.

‘You must make up your mind to sleep with me today,

‘Or, alternatively, you crawl through my legs.’(28)

(Raja,) ‘Only that one crawls through the legs who is unable to indulge

in sex,

And remains sitting whole night like a eunuch and does not perform.

‘Being prevailed by the righteousness I will not copulate with you.

‘I am always fearful of the criticism of the public.(29)

(She,) ‘Do whatever you may, but I will never leave you without sex.

‘With my own hands 1 will tear you off,

And, then, get myself sawn through at Kanshi and, would even face

the Lord of Righteousness in his court.(30)

‘Oh my love, I have sworn to bed with you, and

‘Fully satisfy myself carnally.

‘Tonight, through sex I will make you look more handsome,

And will make Cupid to lose his pride too.’(31)

Raja spoke, ‘First of all God has endowed me birth as a Kashatri,


Our dynasty is very much respected in the world.

Being seated (as Raja) I am worshipped.

‘But, now, if I ravish with you, I will be reborn in a low caste.’(32)

(She said,) ‘What are you talking about the birth? They are your


‘If you don’t cherish me, then It will be my bad luck.

‘Without meeting you, I will poison myself.’(33)


The Raja was worried, if she imposed the oath of Bhagauti, the


Be will have to ravish her and, then, go to hell.(34)

(She) ‘Get rid of all your doubts, savour me,

‘Because Cupid is over powering me.’(35)

(Be) ‘How-so-ever Cupid may overwhelm, due to the dread of hell,

I will never indulge with you.’(36)


(She) ‘You have been bestowed with youth and I am young too.

‘Seeing you I have overcome with passion.

‘Abandon all your misconceptions and relish sex with me,

‘And don’t worry about the fear of the hell.’(37)


‘The lady who comes to me to worship me,

‘To me, she is like the daughter of my Guru.’(38)


What to talk of love with the women, as they never fulfil,

They desert one man and go after another who is better looking.

For whosoever she makes mind for, she becomes naked before him,

And immediately presents him her unclad urinary place.(39)


(She, thinking,) ‘What should 1 do to save myself so that my mind is


‘Your utterances depict love, how could I kill you.( 40)

The Raja went into deep thought, ‘I have no disciples of mine with me.


:By living her my righteousness is destroyed,

But if I try to run away, she will get me caught.(41)


‘It will be better if I praise her and through dramatisation get rid of


‘Without agreeing to commit sex, she will kill me.

‘I wish some disciple of mine could come and save me.’(42)

Arril Chhand

(He said to her), ‘You are admirable and so are your mother and father.

‘Your country is commendable and commendable are your sustainers.

‘Your face, which is very pretty, is so meritorious,

‘That, even, the Lotus- flower, Sun, Moon and Cupid lose their


‘Your body is blissful and your eyes are coquettish.

‘You are winsome to all, the birds, deer, beasts, reptiles and demons,

‘Shiva and all his four sons have languished by looking at your eyes.

‘But the strange phenomena is that your eyes have not been able to

penetrate into my heart.’(44)


(She replied,) ‘Cuddling you I will lie down on the bed and will never

divulge this secret to anyone.

‘Frolicking thus, whole night will pass, and, even the Cupids play

will seem trivial.

‘I am living on dreams (about you) and wake up afraid of losing you.

‘I would rather die, than to wake up from such a dream.’(45)


Then she declared loudly and told, the Raja.

‘Either I will have sex with you or I will kill myself by taking

poison.’(46) (Raja,) ‘God has created your eyes like sharp arrows,

‘But He has endowed me modesty and that is why they cannot pierce


‘Your eyes are penetrating and on the very first sight they oust the


‘But for me, having no attraction for sex, they are merely like


(She) ‘Worthy are those berries whom whole world can see,

‘And the trees, whose fruit people eat and go home satisfied.’(49)

Talking nonsensically, she was becoming impatient to meet her love.

Her each and every limb was demanding, because she was absolutely

stung with the passion.(50)



(Raja) ‘Since the time I realized the sense of maturity, which my Guru

had taught,

“Aye My Son, so long as there is life m your body,

“You promise to enhance love with your own wife,

“But never, even by mistake, bed with else’s wife.(51)

“By relishing else’s wife, Inder, the god was showered with female genitals.

“By relishing else’s wife, Moon was blemished.

“By relishing else’s wife, Ten Headed Raawana lost all his ten heads.

“By relishing else’s wife all the clan of Korav was annihilated.(52)

“The love with else’s wife is like a sharp dagger.

“The love with else’s wife is an invitation to death.

“The one who thinks himself to be very brave and indulges carnally

with else’s wife,

“He is killed in the hands of a coward like a dog.”(53)

“Listen lady! Women come to us from far off lands,

“They bow their heads and wish for boons.

“Those Sikhs (disciples) are like my sons and their wives like my daughters.

“Tell me, now, the pretty one, how could I copulate with them.”(54)


Listening to all this, she flew into rage and thought,

‘Now I should shout, “thief, thief” and people will come and kill



(She) ‘Why are you getting so angry, jovially have sex with me.

‘My eyes are inviting you, can’t you understand what they are

revealing.’ (Raja) ‘Listen, Carefully Listen, I am not looking at you,

‘Because the looks create the feeling of separation.’(57)

Chhape Chhand

‘Charity is endowed to the priests and the men with base thinking get

scornful looks.

‘Friends are entrained with relief and the enemies get hit on the heads

with sword.

‘No act is performed keeping in view the public opinion.

‘One should not even dream of getting into bed with else’s wife.

‘Since the time Guru has taught me this lesson,


Any thing belonging to somebody else is like a stone and else’s wife

like a mother to me.’(58)


Listening to the Raja’s talk she became angrier,

And shouting, “thief, thief” she awoke all her companions.(59)

Hearing the call of “thief, thief,” the Raja was frightened.

He lost his sanity and, leaving there his shoes and silk robe, ran away.(60)

Twenty-first Parable of Auspicious Chritars

Conversation of the Raja and the Minister,

Completed with Benediction. (21)(439)

To be continued.

Chritar Twenty-two

Tale of Anoop Kaur


When the Raja heard the call, “thief, thief” he became dreadful.

He ran out leaving behind his shoes and silk robe.(1)

Hearing the call of thief, all woke up and did not let the Raja runaway,

And within five or seven feet they caught him.(2)


Others too heard the call of “thief” and came out with their swords.

People shouted at him and expressed that he should be sent to the



He was rounded up from left, right and all the directions.

Raja did try but he could not find any means (to escape).(4)

People pulled his beard and took his turban off

Calling him “thief, thief” they beat him with sticks.(5)

With the beating of sticks, he fell flat and became unconscious.

People without understanding the real issue, tied him up with a rope.(6)

They were throwing punches and kicks when the Sikhs arrived, too.

The woman shouted, “brother, brother,” but could not rescue him.(7)


His face was hit with shoes and hands were tied tightly.

He was put in the jail, and the woman came back to her bed.(8)


Through such a deception, the Raja went free and despatched her

brother to the prison.

None of the Sikhs could comprehend the mystery and they thought

her brother to be a thief.(9)

Twenty-second Parable of Auspicious Chritars

Conversation of the Raja and the Minister,

Completed with Benediction. (22)(448)

To be continued.

Chritar Twenty-three

Tale of Anoop Kaur


As the Sun rose, people awoke and went to their respective


The Raja came out of his palace and seated on his throne.(1)


Next day, early in the morning that lady got up,

And displayed the shoes and the robe publicly.(2)


The Raja declared in the court that somebody had stolen his shoes

and robe.

‘The Sikh, who will find them out for me, will be saved from the

clutches of Death.’(3)


Listening to their Guru, the Sikh could not hide (the secret),

And they told about the woman, the shoe and the robe.(4)


The Raja ordered thus, ‘Go and get her and also bring my shoes and

robe. ‘Bring her straight to me without reprimanding her.’(5)


lmmediately, harkening to the Raja, the people hastened to her,

Brought the woman along with the shoes and the robe.(6)


(Raja asked,) ‘Tell me pretty lady, why did you steal my garments?


‘Were you not afraid of this group of brave-men (watchmen)?

‘You tell me, the one who commits theft, what should be one’s punishments.

‘Any way, in consideration of your being a lady, I let you go free, otherwise

I would have executed you.’(7)


Her face became pale, and her eyes remained wide open.

With extreme heart-palpitation, she was dumbfounded.(8)


(Raja) ‘I am asking you, and you are keeping quiet.

‘Alright, I will take you to my house, and keeping you comfortably there,

‘I will talk to you in seclusion,

‘After that you will be let free.’(9)


Next morning he called the lady, and talked over whole situation.

‘Getting angry on me you tried to caste a net on me but on the contrary

I put you in a dilemma.’(10)

‘You were let out on the pretension of my brother,’ the woman

presented distinctive reasoning.

‘Never try to attempt such trickery ever again and this time I pardon

your transgression.’(11)


‘Now, woman, you exonerate me as well, because I don’t want to

linger on the dispute.’

She was, then, endowed a pension of twenty thousand takaas every

six months. (12) (1)

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None of the Charritars are about Guru Ji, the raja in the post above is not Guru Sahib and it isn't 'Anoop Kaur' - again, check the original Gurmukhi. The word 'sikh' is not exclusive to Sikhi. Darshan Lal has lost the plot.

Tec9 - read the original in Gurmukhi, and understand that it is written in a particular style of poetry and interpret it accordingly. Do you think all the Sikhs from 1699 to today that read Dasam Bani everyday are idiots?

What is your intention?

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