Lets Expose The Bougus Babars

[Inder Singh]

Just sceen the Babu Maan video in full for the first time.

They show a someone as bogus baba in the video, but his a Hindu Saarth/holy man type.

Which has made me wonder why next man (dhadwale) got offended so much. Guess his worried his income may fall.

have you got anything other than negativity?

[BhForce]

Just sceen the Babu Maan video in full for the first time.

They show a someone as bogus baba in the video, but his a Hindu Saarth/holy man type.

Which has made me wonder why next man (dhadwale) got offended so much. Guess his worried his income may fall.

Fordcapri, have you not seen the actual video of S. Dhadrianwale? It takes just 2 minutes:

Anyway, S. Dhadrianwale spent just 2 minutes on bogus attacks on preachers, and not just on Babbu Mann (he didn't even mention him by name). This is out of an hours-long divan.

The reason he took a few moments about the Mann song is he was shown a video a few hours before the divan, so he just commented on the fact that people are attacking preachers for small things. Also, the original unauthorised video which was on YouTube featured pictures of S. Dhadrianwale.

[squuid]

<br />Channel 805 now<br />

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[Gursikh Singh]

Just sceen the Babu Maan video in full for the first time.

They show a someone as bogus baba in the video, but his a Hindu Saarth/holy man type.

Which has made me wonder why next man (dhadwale) got offended so much. Guess his worried his income may fall.

Fordcapri, have you not seen the actual video of S. Dhadrianwale? It takes just 2 minutes:

Anyway, S. Dhadrianwale spent just 2 minutes on bogus attacks on preachers, and not just on Babbu Mann (he didn't even mention him by name). This is out of an hours-long divan.

The reason he took a few moments about the Mann song is he was shown a video a few hours before the divan, so he just commented on the fact that people are attacking preachers for small things. Also, the original unauthorised video which was on YouTube featured pictures of S. Dhadrianwale.

It was a bit of a PR disaster on Dhadrianwale's part on commenting on the song without knowing the facts, this coming after his birthday video debacle too.

Hopefully next time he'll do his research beforehand and have a set parchar rather than an improvised one.

[SikhiParchar]

"Munda Southall Da" is "Bundha Babbu Mann Da"

MAJOR SANDHU'S VOTING SYSTEM AND LIVE CALL-IN DISCUSSION WAS A BIASED SET-UP

26 November 2009

Sikhs have been angered by Major Sandhu, the presenter on Venus TV's "Munda Southall Da" discussion and live call-in show after telephone cut-offs, biased dialogue, and rumours that his voting system was a set-up.

Venus TV, broadcasting throughout Europe on Sky 805, hosts a show called "Munda Southall Da" presented by Major Sandhu. Major Sandhu is a Punjabi singer and lyricist who dresses similar to Punjab's deteriorating college youth, with matching turbans (ad-hoc), shirts, gold rings, watches and necklaces. Major Sandhu has often attempted to portray himself as a "Panthic figure" by singing a few religious recent Sikh history songs to please the UK Sikhs and Panthic organisations, where he is a permanent citizen without fear of any other Government backlash. This is regardless of the fact that he only dresses as a Sikh sometimes by wearing a turban on his talk shows, and some of his music videos, even though he is not Kesdhari. He has written over 250 songs, the majority of which are the normal modern day anti-religious filth. A certain percentage of these he has sung himself, the rest he has sold to make personal profits. He started his career on Venus TV but due to more personal benefits, he left and went to MATV, where he was later dismissed after falling out with management. There were reports circulated at the time of claims that he would often attempt to come on air under the influence of alcohol which would naturally result in unpleasant discussions. He eventually came back and joined with Venus TV again continuing to call his show "Munda Southall Da" in a reference to himself – which has been to the amusement of Sikhs and non-Sikhs for many years.

For many days now, Major Sandhu has attempted to hype-up his once famous programme, "Munda Southall Da", with a "voting poll" put in place for viewers, most of whom are non-practising Sikhs or atheists. The bizarre poll has been to vote either in support of (the Sikh nations respected Parcharak) Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Dhadrianwale, or (Punjabi pop singer) Babbu Mann, who has of late caused controversy in Sikh/Punjabi circles around the world after making a mockery out of Sikh Parcharaks in his latest song - "Ik Baba Nanak Si". Certainly a most unintelligent and ridiculous voting poll; putting sheep's in the same league as lions.

The show was broadcasted live earlier today from 8pm-9pm.

The presenter was not only absolutely biased in every way for Babbu Mann, but callers who were to speak in favour of Sikh Parcharaks like Sant Dhadrianwale were repeatedly cut-off. When one or two Panthic supporters did get through, Major Sandhu would vigorously debate their very fair points with thoughtless comments. He would not consider or let them articulate their views clearly, then follow closely by cutting-off the line with the excuse that too many calls were coming through and time was short. If, however, it was a supporter of Babbu Mann, or those with personal agenda's against Gurmat Parcharaks like Sant Dhadrianwale, then Major Sandhu would accept their call, while blissfully and quietly listening to their anti-Sikh Parcharak views. When a caller from Italy got through and managed to put across his views to some extent, Major Sandhu furiously debated his views continuously right up until the end of the programme, even discussing that one call with subsequent like-minded callers. On one occasion, when a staunch supporter of Babbu Mann was live and talking nonsense, those in the Venus TV studio accidentally cut-off the caller mistakenly thinking it was one Major Sandhu had hinted to be taken off air. At that moment, Major Sandhu filled up with fury, and started to curse those behind the scenes in Hindi while still live on air. He demanded to know why they had done that when the caller was airing his views and shouted, again in Hindi, to not do that again. The blatantly biased nature of the show was only matched by the likes of the UK-based Panjab Radio, whose so-called "Gurbani" presenters are followers of excommunicated anti-Panthic missionary's.

An even more disturbing element of this episode is the rumour flying around everywhere (reports of it being around since yesterday) that the so-called "voting" which took place after viewers sent votes by premium charge rate text messages over the last few days was in fact concocted. In total, it is said, there were in reality only a mere 47 mobile text message votes received (perhaps due to the high rate the programme was charging for taking votes to make profits), and the result was pre-decided by negotiation with Bhagwant Mann on behalf of Babbu Mann two days ago.

This is not a "startling" rumour as Bhagwant Mann is a famous Punjabi comedian and close friend of Babbu Mann. The fact is not hidden as only a few days ago Bhagwant Mann came on a show hosted by India's Chardikla Time TV, where he openly supported Babbu Mann, revealing their close relationship of living nearby and keeping daily contact, however, Bhagwant Mann's irrational arguments were effectively silenced by Panthic personality Sant Baba Baljit Singh Dadu Sahib Wale. Furthermore, while Bhagwant Mann has only become familiar with Babbu Mann through the Punjabi music industry, it is not hidden his very close relationship with Major Sandhu goes back many years when they both studied together at the Punjab University in Patiala.

Regardless of the fact that Venus TV is watched very little by Sikhs, it is said Bhagwant Mann called his good friend Major Sandhu from India only two days ago requesting him to adjust all the voting so that it would go in favour of Babbu Mann. This was simply an anti-propaganda stunt against Sant Dhadrianwale like the many videos on the internet uploaded by Babbu Mann supporters and anti-Panthic organisations.

The guilty conscience of Major Sandhu was apparent throughout the whole show due to his extremely defensive behaviour. Voting is done on a regular basis on numerous channels and radio shows, but Major Sandhu was continuously explaining the process of vote collation, how the results are computer generated and how he personally has no input or means to alter anything. This constant defensive behaviour goes a long way in backing these reports that are said to have come from close associates in the channels broadcasting team.

It must be noted that a few weeks ago India's Chardikla Time TV put itself in the same position after a small number of votes were used as a tool for propaganda against Sant Dhadrianwale. After Sikhs had evidence to suggest the implementation of a bogus poll, they requested the full voting system and vote numbers be disclosed to be made public, and Chardikla Time TV were left with no option but to revoke the results of their concocted votes as invalid, consequently apologising to thousands of viewers in India by way of a live broadcast.

It is concerning how far the anti-Panthic personalities and organisations will go in order to disturb Panthic Sikhi Parchar.

The question to ask this "Munda Southall Da" is was he not in Southall when just earlier this year in July/August 2009 Sant Dhadrianwale once again attracted unprecedented numbers of Sikh Sangat to the main Southall Singh Sabha Gurdwara, as well as doing Gurmat Diwans in other Sikh Gurdwara's nearby to him? On the very first day at the Hayes school programme, then on at least one stage in every city, Sant Dhadrianwale appealed to such slanderers that once they will go, these slanderers will suddenly come out to talk about them when they will no longer be present to reply. Sant Dhadrianwale requested these people (such as Major Sandhu) to come and talk to them at anytime then so that any misunderstandings or questions could be cleared. It is said that not one person in the 27+ days they were here came to sit down and discuss or question them. It is only know these people have come out of their nests to spread their deliberate venom.

Sikhs are requested to call Venus TV and email MajorSandhu@hotmail.com to voice your concerns about the biased programme and request Major Sandhu to provide his explanations for invented votes. There is no rumour of allegations of misconduct by Venus TV, but they should be requested to immediately look into Major Sandhu's activities and take him off air for offending viewers with his exceptionally prejudiced performance during the show, and reports since yesterday of unethical actions in the voting process. Major Sandhu has misused his position in the media (although mostly watched by non-practising Sikhs or atheists) in order to transmit his own agenda, and the anti-Panthic agenda of his close associates.

[BhForce]

"Munda Southall Da" is "Bundha Babbu Mann Da"

MAJOR SANDHU'S VOTING SYSTEM AND LIVE CALL-IN DISCUSSION WAS A BIASED SET-UP

26 November 2009

Sikhs have been angered by Major Sandhu, the presenter on Venus TV's "Munda Southall Da" discussion and live call-in show after telephone cut-offs, biased dialogue, and rumours that his voting system was a set-up.

SikhiParchar, thanks for this long but informative post on Major Sandhu.

Whatever your opinion on S. Dhadriawale, it's hard to understand why they were afraid to make their points in front of thousands of people where they could have had the most impact. Were they afraid Ranjit Singh Ji would have been able to easily refute their allegations?

[Nirvair S Khalsa]

Good article, it clears the (well-known) truth behind Major Sandhu.

"Munda Southall Da" is "Bundha Babbu Mann Da"

MAJOR SANDHU'S VOTING SYSTEM AND LIVE CALL-IN DISCUSSION WAS A BIASED SET-UP

26 November 2009

Sikhs have been angered by Major Sandhu, the presenter on Venus TV's "Munda Southall Da" discussion and live call-in show after telephone cut-offs, biased dialogue, and rumours that his voting system was a set-up.

SikhiParchar, thanks for this long but informative post on Major Sandhu.

Whatever your opinion on S. Dhadriawale, it's hard to understand why they were afraid to make their points in front of thousands of people where they could have had the most impact. Were they afraid Ranjit Singh Ji would have been able to easily refute their allegations?

You are right 'BhForce' - it is fair to say with confidence that this indeed is definitely the case. The Babbu Mann issue has been used as an excuse, there are many people with their own personal agenda's, but not one of these people were/are able to "express" them when Sant Ranjit Singh Jee was/is here. If not in front of them, they cannot/did not even speak on radio's, letters to the editors (newspapers),...etc. Everyone is quiet at that time; the majority of Sikhs go to the Gurdwara for the diwaans and the few trouble-makers sit at home hearing all about the Chardi Kala. They know their points and "arguments" are unreasonable that would easily be refuted by Sant Ranjit Singh Jee. Every Panthic Jathebandhi is behind Sant Ranjit Singh Jee.

[buddasingh]

Who needs forced conversion from 17th century Mughals when 2009 Atheists or Casteists attempt to portray themselves as high profile Sikhs. It might as well be 17th century Mughals that role model to our children that this is what it is to be a Sikh.

If you respect Sikhi, take care in its public portrayal; show deference to the kes of our martyrs ahead of your ego; understand that "Rehat Pyaaree Mujh Ko, Sikh Pyaara Naahe” would also mean that "guruji nu reyat pyaree, punjabi jatt nahee pyara". Then I can respect you as a brother/sister somewhere on the path regardless of where, and I wish to learn from you.

But monkeys like this babbu and major! Shame on you!... go celebrate your monkey-a** lifestyle as a drunken dancing punjabi. Find a religion or no religion or dissolve yourself into the India that has you pegged as a Hindu clown, but please stop disrespecting the blood of our martyrs and leave the gift of Sikhi for innocent children around the world.

[mala]

Who needs forced conversion from 17th century Mughals when 2009 Atheists or Casteists attempt to portray themselves as high profile Sikhs. It might as well be 17th century Mughals that role model to our children that this is what it is to be a Sikh.

If you respect Sikhi, take care in its public portrayal; show deference to the kes of our martyrs ahead of your ego; understand that "Rehat Pyaaree Mujh Ko, Sikh Pyaara Naahe" would also mean that "guruji nu reyat pyaree, punjabi jatt nahee pyara". Then I can respect you as a brother/sister somewhere on the path regardless of where, and I wish to learn from you.

But monkeys like this babbu and major! Shame on you!... go celebrate your monkey-a** lifestyle as a drunken dancing punjabi. Find a religion or no religion or dissolve yourself into the India that has you pegged as a Hindu clown, but please stop disrespecting the blood of our martyrs and leave the gift of Sikhi for innocent children around the world.

I couldn't put it any clearer myself.

Someone is backing the growing PATITism problem, someone is backing the "roday-shoday" and their potrayal of Punjabism-Casteism-Monaism.... And to top it up this whole attack on Baba Ranjit Singh is part of the same agenda, it's just been conveniently dressed as a blanket attack on "Bogus Babay" and the lal bati on an Audi.

The "Roday-Shoday" icons have been put forward to legitisme the the destruction of Kes, Rehat Maryada through their power of popularity and influence. One minute they can sing about their lust for some girl's anatomy and then think they deserve a panthic voice through some other geet.

[rupinder singh]

I agree with Buddhasingh and Mala.

As far as I can interpret there is a blatant attack on Sikh principles coming in the guise of this promoted relaxed view of Rehat and Keshdhari roop. The Punjabi pop star is an ideal icon to promote this roop adopting a flexible Sikh roop (Mona in one song, Pag and dhari the next song) as well as flexible Sikh principles (promotion of Shaheeds when convenient and then dancing with half naked bibya when desired). When challenged by the likes of Baba Ranjit Singh, they turn it into a personal attack campaign.