Attack Renews Sikh Dagger Debate

[gaganji]

Toronto Star:

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/791293--attack-renews-sikh-dagger-debate?bn=1

Attack renews Sikh dagger debate

April 06, 2010

Raveena Aulakh

*MOD EDIT: text edit*

[GillAUS]

This is all the doing of Ragi D and Co.

First they try and strip us of the Bir Rass spirit of Dasmesh Pita's Bani.

Then they provoke us by using the most vile language to slander Guru Ji's Bani in order to get such a reaction, which in turn will now cause the debate that this article refers to.

If successful, they will have then stripped us of one of the Panj Kakkars, thus further emasculating Guru's Khalsa.

I have no doubts that this is their devious plan.

The only way is to fight back and rebuke their lies. Draw media attention to what the truth is, and how they are the ones that are going against the tenets of Sikhism.

[Sikhistan]

yeh right.. totally biased article and probably supported by Jehar centre.. Calling to ban kirpan is exactly like saying ban guns in america. Americans will never ban guns as its founding fathers put it in constitution "right to bear arms".. And Sikhs will never abandon kirpans as our guru sahib jee put it in clear to adopt 5k's.

[GPS]

Such situation is creation of Ragi Darshan and kala afghana brigade of gurnindaks. Ragi Darshan lal needs some lessons in civic sense

so that he knows it is unethical, wrong and stupid to hurt religious sentiments of others.

If he does not believe in Dasam Granth no one is forcing Dasam granth on him.But he should have basic human decency not to ridicule

this scripture that commands respect of millions and millions of sikhs.If he understands this there is no dispute.

But this dancing queen is bent upon to use dirty language for scripture of sikhs.He is responsible to create such situations.

Visit his news site and see the language this joker uses for those organizations who have always sacrificed for sikhism.

This article is a typical piece of misinformation coming from the same writer one after the otehr.This is third one in series in a matter of three days.

The author should know once kala afghana cult disowns Dasam granth hair and kakkars have no place for such persons as all this rehat comes from

Dasam Granth.

[GPS]

Let police decide what was the situation and how and who injured whom. It is ridiculous to pre judge the effects when we are not aware

what is reality.

Ragi brigade seems to be on propagand blitz.

[vjkaram]

It was fine to protest against the Ragi's program but the violence that took place over there has done so much damage to the image of Sikhs in Toronto that it will take quite some time before people forget about it. Questions are now being raised over the Sikhs' right to wear Kirpan. What was the need to beat them up? Was it all worth it?

There must be other means to counter the poisonous preachings of Ragi and Party. All Singhs who were there that day must think that they are responsible if their actions result in hundreds of thousands of Sikhs facing problems following their Rehit of wearing Kirpan.

The 53 year old person who allegedly attacked with Kirpan should be ashamed of his behaviour. He acted very childishly and now we all are going to suffer for his childish actions.

Please act responsibly Singho!!

[GPS]

This is a propaganda blitz to take advantage of this episode in Ragi's favour.

Canadian law permits sikhs to carry kirpan. It is like saying someone uses his gun and all

guns will be banned.Let authorities decide who is at fault. Do not make up things on your own

to further Ragi's propaganda.

Let police do its job and things will become clear who was at fault.Let us keep quiet till then.

The 53 year old person who allegedly attacked with Kirpan should be ashamed of his behaviour. He acted very childishly and now we all are going to suffer for his childish actions

Who knows who used what as investigations are not complete yet. You should be ashamed of writing this when investiagtions are in progress. Let authorities decide..

It is traitor , akirtghan and gurnindak ragi who should be ashamed for creating such situations.He has been eating from panth all his life and now he is cursing same banis that had fed him and help him to make his living.What a thankless character.

[N30S1NGH]

This is getting ridiculous. Opportunist will flame this incident to fresh debate over kirpan, all this have done is made law abiding amritdhari singh who wears kirpan made their life living hell.

Whichever idi otic person did that should be glad now after reading this news? He should be criminally charged and should be condemn by panth- akaal takhth sahib and Canadian Sikh Body. I don't care which ankhi group you belong to, how righteous our intentions were, this is not India, this happened in Canada. In Canada, you expected to follow the laws of this country, regardless who painful it is suck it up regardless of your views, you are expected to follow the laws of this country regardless of your religion. Religion is separate from law. In our personal life, dharam we live and die for. But in social life, Canadian law is above that is something we have to suck it up painfully or with kushi regardless if dharam yudh maryada allows it or not. We are not sitting in times of monarch where we can handle cases like this, we live in democratic society where must follow their laws or we can simply go back to our place where we came from. All this fiasco with sikh lehar center and stabbing should have been handled by law first, fine couple of pushes and punches here and there because emotions are high or fine but getting to the point, where fellow sikh stabbed another person with kirpan (where all means are fatigued) takes it to extreme should be condemned at all levels.

I am not a sheep either who think kirpan is a symbol only but before ankhi sikhs who does not give two hoots about laws of this country consider kirpan as weapon, consider they have themselves promoted kirpan as article of faith/symbol in this country (which is the way it should be in abroad). My point is- if you have presented kirpan as article of faith in this country better treat kirpan as article of faith not as blunt weapon. Otherwise we are looking fwd to get kirpans banned from Canada. Remember this is not accommodating one group of people, this is about accommodating everyone who lives in Canada. One's freedom of speech or movement becomes an crime/assault as soon as it touches fellow citizen tip of the nose.

[Guest Bloom]

In My Opinion,

This Is Exactly What The GOI Wanted. Their Targets Were Always On Sri Amrit Sanchaar, And Sri Kirpaan Sahib As Well (They Will NOT Succeed). Remember Their Goal Has Always Been To Make Sure Khalsa Does Not Rise (All Over The World), If Khalsa Cannot Practice Their Dharam, How Can They Rise? So The Attack Has Always Been Also On Sri Kirpaan, Why Do You Think All The GOI Centers Like Lehar Center, 'Missionaries', Etc., Have Removed All Shastar From Guru Sahib Hazooree? This Raveenaa Aulakh Hates Khalsa Dharma Herself, She Is Either A Hindu Who Hates Sikhs, Or A Typical 'Modern' Punjabee Who Hates Amritdhaaree Jeevan, Just Like Balraj Deol (Probably A Sharaabee Kabaabee Himself Who Hates Practicing Gursikhs).

And It Seems It Is Raveena Aulakh Herself Who Is Stirring The Debate Purposely In Canada. Countless Of People Get Stabbed In Canada I Am Sure, But Her Attack Is On Sikhs In Particular. What About Scissors, They Going To Ban Scissors In Schools? The Attack Is On Sikh Dharma (They Themselves Do Not Understand Or Want To Follow Sikh Dharma, So They Want To Attack Sikh Dharma). There Are Countless Things That Can Be Bought From Any Corner Store That Can Be Used To Stab People, Raveenaa Aulakh Stirring This Debate Has Everything To Do With Her Systematic Attack On Sikhs In Particular.

This Was An Isolated Incident. All The Khalsa Dharma Aashikh Canadians Should Get Together And Show The World The Beauty Of Khalsa Dharma. There Are Isolated Incidents Of People Of Different Faiths Who Have Done Things, It Doesn't Mean It Effects The Other Millions. Raveena Aulakh Is Attacking The Sri Kirpaan Herself, Because She Hates Sikhs Herself (She Only Likes The Sharabee Kabaabee Types).

Get Rehatvaan Amritdhaaree Educated, (If Singh: Dhaaraa Parkaash), To Articulately, In Media Show The Significance Of Sri Kirpaan To Canadians (Only If It Becomes An Issue. If Raveena Aulakh Is Just Trying To Stir Trouble, And People In General Are Not Concerned, Then No Need. I Am Sure There Are Isolated Incidents Including Stabbings In Canada Frequently Of Various Communities. You Cannot Group Everyone Of That Community Into One). Canadians, All People Of The World Are Not Stupid, They Know You Cant Judge An Isolated Incident For An Entire Community; How Stupid. What About Guns In America? What About Scissors In Schools, Workplaces, And Everywhere Else? Scissors Can Stab Someone A Lot Worse! There Are Various Things.

This Is What Darshan Has Been Working For GOI. His Mission Is To Go From Country To Country To Purposely Cause Problems For Sikhs (Amritdhaaree Sikhs), That's The GOI Plan!

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan. All Will Be Well.

Also, I Don't Believe That Mangat Himself Wears A Sri Kirpaan. They Attack Entire Sri Amrit Sanchaar, and Say They Believe In ONLY Sri GuruGranth Sahib Jee (This Is The GOI Strategy), He Will Probably Fight To Have Sri Kirpaan Sahibs Ban (Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan, He Will NOT Succeed.

Raveena Aulakh (Who Is Working For And Speaking On Behalf Of and Representing GOI Lehar Center And Darshan Ragi) Should Not Attack Sikh Dharma Because She Herself Does Not Understand Nor Love True Sikh Dharam Which Includes Ang Sang Sri Kirpaan Sahib. She Herself Is Stirring Everything In Media For Her Selfish Self.

In Either Case, This Is An Isolated Incident. Scissors Can Also Stab People, And Scissors Are All Over The Place, Including Schools.

Get All The Sikh Lawyer Groups (Even International) Who Fight For Sikh Rights Including Sri Kirpaan Sahibs Together And Win This For Sikh Dharma In Canada.

The Fight Is Between Fake Sikhs (Punjabee Sharaabee Kabaabees Who Themselves Dont Wear Sri Kakaars And Are Not Amritdhaaree) And True Sikhs. Raveena Aulakh Is Purposely Causing Troubles For Practicing Sikhs, This Is The GOI Plan.

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan. All Will Be Well. Akaal Purakh Will Bless Sikh Dharma. People Are Not Stupid. This Is An Isolated Incident. What About Scissors? Lehar Center, GOI, Darshan Ragi, Raveenaa Aulakh, Sharaabee Kabaabee Punjabeee Media Are Purposely Trying To Cause Trouble For Practicing Sikhs.

And No, A Kirpaan Cannot Be A 2" Symbol That 'Hangs' From The Neck. LOL.

Guru Sahib Kirpa Karna. All Will Be Well For Practicing Gursikhs.

Chardhi Kala!

[GPS]

We do not know what has exactly happened there. Let us not assume things on our own.Let law enforcement agencies decide after investigations.

Till then we should not accuse anyone.