Bin Laden'S Death: 'Why Kill The Goose?'

[HSD1]

That's the problem. The 'Big Boys' don't let these smaller countries build up their defences, their industries, etc - well, to a standard that would allow these countries to be strong nations in their own right.... Even smaller countries (of importance) need to toe the line and pay obeisance to the likes of the U.S., UK. etc., else I'm pretty sure the likes of the CIA or MI6 begin covertly sponsoring opposition elements to drudge up trouble and destabilise the country from within. That's no conspiracy - that's standard policy of our so-called democratic governments. Obviously it also depends on the strategic importance of a country. I mean, no-one's going to bother messing with, for example, Norway as it doesn't really have any international importance that would interest the superpowers (no offence to any Norwegians :smile2:)

B Magic said he doesnt like sarcasm and he knows where you live!! But seriously, running around rubbing people up the wrong way doesnt do anyone any favours. Finding allies and portraying our enemies in an unflattering light is the usual order of business in most parts of the world. Making friends whilst one is weak is a good idea as it allows you to build up strength. Look at China, making friends with the west in order to build itself up. Now their economy and wealth is doing what a thousand Gaddafis and Bin Ladens and Soddom Husseins could dream of.

[VanHelsingh]

It also depends - somewhat - on the sophistication and standing of the country in question. A less developed nation such as Pakistan or other unstable states in Asia and the Middle East, are manipulated on a ground level like I previously mentioned. A slightly advanced nation with a stable government that isn't at the mercy of disparate groups vying for power, is "attacked" on a gradual basis via it's media through propaganda or other initiatives that will eventually affect the population, etc. It all amounts to the same in the end.

[dalsingh101]

The great nations have always acted like gangsters, and the small nations like prostitutes.

Stanley Kubrick.

[Harjeet]

If anything, you are the one who repeats things again and again in the hope of convincing others and yourself of your own ignorance.

I will continue to speak what I know to be the truth. And I will try to with passion. I will not stop speaking it, even if the truth is unpopular, even if the whole world is against it, I will not stop. For eventually people will come round to it.

Even now, 100th monkey syndrome is taking its place. Seeds have been planted. Of course people's paradigms are not going to change right away, I knew alot of people aren't going to accept what I say straight away. But the seeds have been planted, and you will come to know. It has become embedded in your subconscious, and you will begin to attract all the neccessary information. Because deep inside we all have a yearning for what is really going on.

And your point is? The league of nations was dissolved because people walked out when they wanted to and the countries remaining would not act together unless it affected their own interests. The United Nations was the post Second World War version designed to prevent another World War happening in the same way as the Second started.

And where are the United Nations now? in places like Libya. So much for world peace. It has all been staged, it was pre planned many years ago, that all this conflict would occur. That is why Henry Kissinger, when asked about the current events going on in the middle east he said "this is only the first scene of the first act of a drama that is to be played out."

Thousands of years ago caveman fought as individuals. Hundreds of years ago small kingdoms waged war on one another. In the 19th century industrialised states blasted each other out of existence. Anyone with two braincells could figure out that major wars would eventually be waged all over the world as humanity evolves. Give it another 500 years and we'll probably be seeing interplanetary warfare.

If only you knew, that we are already under interplanetary warfare. And have been for millions of years. You are playing off the evolution stereotype. But humans did not evolve thousands of years, we have been around for eons. We did not evolve from apes, we are evolving into apes if anything. Because we have been de-evolving, but things are about to change.

As for Albert Pike, who cares about a mason who was also obsessed with aryan mythology and racial superiority as well as being a supporter of the American Confederacy.

This is gold!, you just proved the point why it may be a good idea, to see how did he exactly predict what was going to happen in the world wars. It has all been engineered, every major war, has been designed by the same group of beings, the same group that are running the world today. They gave us their banking instituitions, monetary system, education system, religions, politics our society and our thinking. Only by the grace of Vaheguru, can we ever come to know what is really going on. These beings ultimately who have been manipulating the Earth, are not even human, thats why i refer to them as just "beings."

And i know what you are probably thinking, that im a crazy low life but I won't stop as there is value. You will understand one day. You should think "why does this guy keep on going on and on about it, maybe there is some truth to it, or maybe he is crazy" Well if i am crazy then, shouldn't you try to help me rather than insult me? But really im not as crazy as you might think. Its just that the whole world is insane.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

And what way is that ? That if you're a loser at real life you can go and make up reality? Oh dear.

Don't become a practitioner of sanctimony. A sikh would not call somebody else a loser. Especially if they have an understanding of the game that life is. Im not trying to make up a reality. Do you think if I was like that, i would be here, posting on a forum. That would be insecure, and insecure people, tend not to speak out. Remember because of your mind patterns, you have attracted me here. The people who you attract in life, is a result of your mind patterns, so ask yourself, why are these "weirdos" coming into my life. Maybe there is something really to it.

Yes, i can sense a smartass comment coming from you, to try and repel what im saying. But it is just the fear of letting go. I know it will be hard, because so many things you have been told is a lie. But you just have learn to let go, forget the "logic". Go with your intuition. And you will see how flawed the "logic" was.

But we are all Sikhs, and the Guru ultimately takes us all to the truth regardless. Because the Guru is always doing whats best for us. It is our destiny.

Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." - MLK

If the world is "sane" then i'm extremely fortunate to be "insane".

[HSD1]

It also depends - somewhat - on the sophistication and standing of the country in question. A less developed nation such as Pakistan or other unstable states in Asia and the Middle East, are manipulated on a ground level like I previously mentioned. A slightly advanced nation with a stable government that isn't at the mercy of disparate groups vying for power, is "attacked" on a gradual basis via it's media through propaganda or other initiatives that will eventually affect the population, etc. It all amounts to the same in the end.

The more power one has the more one can use. If you are referring to the West undermining everyone, dont for a moment think they are invincible. I'll give you guys another historical analogy: Britain in 1935 was a global superpower. Her navy was twice the size of most other countries, her airforce was experimenting with jet fighters and her army was millions of men strong. The British took great pride in this, as can be seen by the numerous Youtube videos of camera footage from army parades and naval reviews, posted by people over here that love their past. But within 5 years of 1935, the British PM and captains of industry/top scientists/cleverest economists were all in Washington, cap in hand, offering any concession to get the USA to help them. 5 years after that Britain was a semi-colony of america: her empire was in ruins, america had its troops garrisoned all over the island and was using it as a base to operate into central europe. The british armed forces were like a bunch of sepoys at the call of the american army if needed. So things dont always stay the same - this isnt a reason to lapse back into complacency, but a point to portray the importance of being vigilant and opportunistic.

As for advanced nations that have faced the west, I could go on, but we all know they did many things wrong themselves rather than the anglos doing the right things. Our own story is an example of this.

[HSD1]

I will continue to speak what I know to be the truth. And I will try to with passion. I will not stop speaking it, even if the truth is unpopular, even if the whole world is against it, I will not stop. For eventually people will come round to it.

What makes it the truth? The fact that it makes sense to you and not many others? For your own sake I hope you sort yourself out and build a life for yourself. If you have a family they wont have much of an upbringing with a crackpot father plotting the rising of the great proletariat against the NWO. In 40 years time you'll be like those washed out white hippys from the 1960s who thought they were going to achieve a socialists revolution - and are still waiting. I'm not being harsh, just mature. See what other more elder people on this site have to say.

Even now, 100th monkey syndrome is taking its place. Seeds have been planted. Of course people's paradigms are not going to change right away, I knew alot of people aren't going to accept what I say straight away. But the seeds have been planted, and you will come to know. It has become embedded in your subconscious, and you will begin to attract all the neccessary information. Because deep inside we all have a yearning for what is really going on.

If you say so. I think my analytical skills and information sources have been pretty good so far. Why dont you make a prediction of something that will happen in 6-12 months time (or sooner) and we can all see if you are as great as you say you are. In the meantime leave the quasi-psychological stuff alone, we all know you're regurgitating what you have read elsewhere.

And where are the United Nations now? in places like Libya. So much for world peace. It has all been staged, it was pre planned many years ago, that all this conflict would occur. That is why Henry Kissinger, when asked about the current events going on in the middle east he said "this is only the first scene of the first act of a drama that is to be played out."

The United Nations is proactive because america heads it, whereas the league of nations was headed by britain and france. The league of nations never intervened as it affected british and french interests. The united nations intervenes in small places were the two sides are relatively small in power status not when a major power attacks a minor one. Such as Russia in Georgia. Is Russia part of the NWO? The United Nations is just a forum for the worlds governments and a big gentlemans club for the major superpowers.

If only you knew, that we are already under interplanetary warfare. And have been for millions of years. You are playing off the evolution stereotype. But humans did not evolve thousands of years, we have been around for eons. We did not evolve from apes, we are evolving into apes if anything. Because we have been de-evolving, but things are about to change.

Evidence please.

This is gold!, you just proved the point why it may be a good idea, to see how did he exactly predict what was going to happen in the world wars. It has all been engineered, every major war, has been designed by the same group of beings, the same group that are running the world today. They gave us their banking instituitions, monetary system, education system, religions, politics our society and our thinking. Only by the grace of Vaheguru, can we ever come to know what is really going on. These beings ultimately who have been manipulating the Earth, are not even human, thats why i refer to them as just "beings."

Please provide evidence that this hillbilly predicted anything. Books with page references will suffice.

BTW did you know that before the Anglo-Sikh War 1 that the Akalis used to print and distribute pamphlets among the Khalsa Legions about why they should be at war with British India? Are the Akalis part of this warmongering NWO order? Or is war, especially against detestable enemies, part of human nature?

Now, can you tell me why the NWO who supposedly rule the world, still want to manipulate events? And if they are not all in power all over the world, name the places that are centres of the 'resistance'.

nd i know what you are probably thinking, that im a crazy low life but I won't stop as there is value. You will understand one day. You should think "why does this guy keep on going on and on about it, maybe there is some truth to it, or maybe he is crazy" Well if i am crazy then, shouldn't you try to help me rather than insult me? But really im not as crazy as you might think. Its just that the whole world is insane.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

And what do you know of the whole world? Where have you travelled? How many races have you met, places you've stayed etc? Please tell me or I'll think you base your world view on what you see on the net.

Don't become a practitioner of sanctimony. A sikh would not call somebody else a loser. Especially if they have an understanding of the game that life is. Im not trying to make up a reality. Do you think if I was like that, i would be here, posting on a forum. That would be insecure, and insecure people, tend not to speak out. Remember because of your mind patterns, you have attracted me here. The people who you attract in life, is a result of your mind patterns, so ask yourself, why are these "weirdos" coming into my life. Maybe there is something really to it.

Nothing sanctamonious about me. I'm far more honest than half the people you'll meet on here, and not as blatant and see-through either. You came to this forum because you came to it. Nothing to do with me. Looking for Waheguru's Hukam in your daily life is blasphemy, dont you know?

Yes, i can sense a smartass comment coming from you, to try and repel what im saying. But it is just the fear of letting go. I know it will be hard, because so many things you have been told is a lie. But you just have learn to let go, forget the "logic". Go with your intuition. And you will see how flawed the "logic" was.

I let go a long time ago. You just jumped from one teat to another, like so many people nowadays. These conspiracy theories wont do you any good. I'm not doing this for laughs or to laud over you, but because as part of our community and possible father/mother (I dont even know what sex you are) of sikhs in the future you really need to sort yourself out. If not for your own sake, for your family and descendants. How are you going to help the world when you cant even help yourself?

But we are all Sikhs, and the Guru ultimately takes us all to the truth regardless. Because the Guru is always doing whats best for us. It is our destiny.

What rubbish. We have free will as it is a test in front of Waheguru to see what we do. Good actions are not the only thing, Waheguru knows how we feel and how we think too. Controlling every aspect of our emotions and life and living the right way is what takes us to Waheguru. Being born into a sikh family is just the beginning. Read up, you're embaressing yourself.

Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." - MLK

If the world is "sane" then i'm extremely fortunate to be "insane".

The same spiel. How about you get out there and practice what you perceive to be the right thing? Tell us how it goes/is going.

[Harjeet]

What makes it the truth? The fact that it makes sense to you and not many others? For your own sake I hope you sort yourself out and build a life for yourself. If you have a family they wont have much of an upbringing with a crackpot father plotting the rising of the great proletariat against the NWO. In 40 years time you'll be like those washed out white hippys from the 1960s who thought they were going to achieve a socialists revolution - and are still waiting. I'm not being harsh, just mature. See what other more elder people on this site have to say.

If you say so. I think my analytical skills and information sources have been pretty good so far. Why dont you make a prediction of something that will happen in 6-12 months time (or sooner) and we can all see if you are as great as you say you are. In the meantime leave the quasi-psychological stuff alone, we all know you're regurgitating what you have read elsewhere.

The United Nations is proactive because america heads it, whereas the league of nations was headed by britain and france. The league of nations never intervened as it affected british and french interests. The united nations intervenes in small places were the two sides are relatively small in power status not when a major power attacks a minor one. Such as Russia in Georgia. Is Russia part of the NWO? The United Nations is just a forum for the worlds governments and a big gentlemans club for the major superpowers.

Evidence please.

Please provide evidence that this hillbilly predicted anything. Books with page references will suffice.

BTW did you know that before the Anglo-Sikh War 1 that the Akalis used to print and distribute pamphlets among the Khalsa Legions about why they should be at war with British India? Are the Akalis part of this warmongering NWO order? Or is war, especially against detestable enemies, part of human nature?

Now, can you tell me why the NWO who supposedly rule the world, still want to manipulate events? And if they are not all in power all over the world, name the places that are centres of the 'resistance'.

And what do you know of the whole world? Where have you travelled? How many races have you met, places you've stayed etc? Please tell me or I'll think you base your world view on what you see on the net.

Nothing sanctamonious about me. I'm far more honest than half the people you'll meet on here, and not as blatant and see-through either. You came to this forum because you came to it. Nothing to do with me. Looking for Waheguru's Hukam in your daily life is blasphemy, dont you know?

I let go a long time ago. You just jumped from one teat to another, like so many people nowadays. These conspiracy theories wont do you any good. I'm not doing this for laughs or to laud over you, but because as part of our community and possible father/mother (I dont even know what sex you are) of sikhs in the future you really need to sort yourself out. If not for your own sake, for your family and descendants. How are you going to help the world when you cant even help yourself?

What rubbish. We have free will as it is a test in front of Waheguru to see what we do. Good actions are not the only thing, Waheguru knows how we feel and how we think too. Controlling every aspect of our emotions and life and living the right way is what takes us to Waheguru. Being born into a sikh family is just the beginning. Read up, you're embaressing yourself.

The same spiel. How about you get out there and practice what you perceive to be the right thing? Tell us how it goes/is going.

You have been misunderstanding me, you will find out whats going on soon enough, what was being said, what the intent was. The "NWO" is just an agenda for these beings. But the only reason they are here is because of our karma. You make it sound as if im in the fight against the NWO. But the fight is with our own self. When we sort ourselves out, all negative influences will instantly vanish. I know i am hypocrite, not practicing what I preach, but im here to get better.

You have been misunderstanding me, because some points you make i agree with you, but it as if you are using them against me, but i agree and it supports what I'm saying, and so it does not make any sense. Like when you said "The United Nations is just a forum for the worlds governments and a big gentlemans club for the major superpowers." It is comical. You don't understand where im coming from. We could argue forever. But the seeds have been planted now. Don't worry about me, or what will happen with my life. What i meant by saying that we are all Sikhs, is that our Guru is guiding us somewhere. And that in the end it is all for the good. So don't worry. Thats what i mean by it is destiny, because God made us to improve. Everything is a lesson to guide us closer towards God, who is the truth. I know its got nothing to do with being born into a Sikh family, its your own actions that count.

Nothing sanctamonious about me. I'm far more honest :smile2: than half the people you'll meet on here, and not as blatant and see-through either.

Can't you see how funny this is?

You came to this forum because you came to it. Nothing to do with me. Looking for Waheguru's Hukam in your daily life is blasphemy, dont you know?

Things like this you don't understand what I said in the first place. it is like when someone talks about how they don't like apples, then you say they don't like fruit. You misunderstood me. But you are going to find out exactly what i meant. The evidence will find you. People want to get up and fight with the messenger, just look whats going on in the world around you.

Evidence please.

Im not trying to talk any quasi-crap. Even in gurbani it speaks of how good people were in Satyug, and now we are in the dark times of kalyug. Well Satyug was like a billion years ago, i don't know the exact date. This proves human "de-evolution" That we have been going backwards. And that we are not the cutting edge of society, science or anything.

Like i said i know it all seems illogical. But when i get these strong premonitions, i just know if something is true. I don't care what credentials someone might have, if they are a scientist, i don't care. Because when i get these strong intuitive feelings on a subject, i have always found it to be the truth. Thus the evidence comes to me, signs come, but i do no go out looking for "conspiracy theory". I used to be in the same mindest you were, there is something i have seen that changed me.

Thats why Im trying to tell people to use your intuition, to know if im telling the truth, rather than going from your own logic. Because logic comes from ego. Intuition comes from the heart from God. This "nwo" stuff, i have seen things or evidence that would blow your mind. But the internet does not allow for me to explain this, it goes beyond words, really you have to find the evidence for yourself, nobody can give it to you. It is like a process of awakening from a slumber,only you can do it for yourself.

We can keep trying to argue with words, but what im saying goes beyond our physical senses, thats why im being misunderstood. At the end of the day there is only one truth, there is only the one, and if we all strive for that, surely we will become united? And there can be no conflict.

[dalsingh101]

Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." - MLK

That is awesome.

[clarity]

HSD1 couldnt have put it better myself

And psychology will not work on the Sikhs we see beond that now psyops are all but finished we know our goal we have a vision and most of all we have millions of us

What you gonna do when we come for you

WJKKWJKF

[VanHelsingh]

HSD1 couldnt have put it better myself

And psychology will not work on the Sikhs we see beond that now psyops are all but finished we know our goal we have a vision and most of all we have millions of us

What you gonna do when we come for you?

WJKKWJKF

I hope our enemies take their vitamins and say their prayers because you know what Clarity? They're going to need all the help they can get, brother!