National Anti-Beadbi Rally At Dudley, Uk -* Cancelled *-

[Into the Light 149]

This is a direct attack on Sikhi by these masands! It is the duty of all Sikhs young & old to show their support in numbers next Saturday and let it be known that this type of beadbee will no longer be tolerated anywhere in the UK.

A huge bentee to everyone out there...please ensure you attend in large numbers!

[Satkaar 108]

Press Release and Sangat Update

Dudley, UK - 20 May 2011

www.SatkaarCampaign.blogspot.com

Protocol for Peaceful Anti-Beadbi Rally at GNSS Dudley on Saturday 28 May 2011.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Sikhs are requested to start gathering at the Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Dudley Gurdwara at 2pm sharp.

A large Sikh presence is requested to show the GNSS Dudley Committee that the UK Sikh Sangat has been deeply hurt by the sacrilege that is being permitted and promoted by the Committee of allowing meat, alcohol and tobacco within the Gurdwara's premises. This is strictly against an edict given by Akal Takhat Sahib (the highest decision-making/spiritual authority for Sikhs) in its 2006 Sandesh to the entire Sikh Nation.

All Sikhs attending are requested to observe and note the following Protocol.

- Sikhs must join in and take part in the Naam Simiran, Mool Mantra, Chaupai Sahib Jaap that is intended to take place on the day, so that the Khalsa Panth receives blessings from Guru Ji to prevent all this Beadbi happening.

- Sikhs must show restraint and conduct themselves respectfully even when addressing the Gurdwara Committee members and their supporters, the Police or any attendees of the Party. Do not engage in any arguments or debates.

- The power of Sikh Community (men and women, old and young) turning up in large numbers, showing solidarity and restraint, adhering to Guru Ji's principles, will portray a stronger message to this Committee and the other Gurdwara Committees who allow this Beadbi to happen on a weekly basis in Gurdwara properties.

- Sikh and non-Sikh media will be present for you to voice your concerns to the wider Community.

- Support those Gursikhs who will be taking a lead on the day.

- The Sikh Community from across the UK will be uniting to attempt to stop this Beadbi from happening on the day, though Sikhs attending must understand that there still may not be a resolution during the rally. Along with the blessings of Guru Ji, the Sikh Sangat's continued and ongoing support and vigilance will be required to ensure the success of the Satkaar Campaign

- Intimidation or violent behaviour will NOT be tolerated. Do not come looking intimidating i.e., do not wear hoodies or any face coverings. No swearing or slogans will be permitted. To show solidarity please wear blue Dastaars, Rumallas and Chunnis

FINALLY, REMEMBER, you will be representing the roop of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

[just_someone 38]

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

What a shame that our Gurdwara Sahib are acting like this, they should be leading examples of Sikhi. Makes you think why they even bother being part of running a religious institution.

I am making placards for the day and my family is all coming down we hired a van , we have to make a stand and stop this from happening. may dad was saying if we can even stand up for this then whats the point in being Sikhs.

The growth of cults and young sikhs moving away from their faith is due to the people running our religious places. They dont practice what Guruji preached. May Guruji give these ppl some wisdom. Would Guru Nanak Dev Ji be proud off this type of activity, Jesus went into the temples ended the wrong things ppl were doing, every one has to make a stand.

Heard the sikh channel are doing a program about this and we should contact the local press and tv to come down and see whats happening.

I just read about the Gurdwara reform movement in the 1920s this is a a great example for us, we need to remove the bad ppl from our gurdwaras.

Panth Kee Jeet

[2128 33]

Jhoool Deh Nishaan Rah, Panth Maharaj Ke

Akal Takhat Mahaan Hai, Sikh Panth Dee Shaan Hai

[Satkaar 108]

Press Release and Sangat Update

Dudley, UK - 22 May 2011

www.SatkaarCampaign.blogspot.com

Akal Takhat Sahib Jathedaar confirms 2006 Sandesh still applies

Clarification on letter to Ramgarhia Sikh Temple, Birmingham

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

As the UK Sangat may be aware, 5 Singh Sahibaan (including Jathedaar of Akal Takhat Sahib, Singh Sahib Giani Gurbachan Singh Ji) were present in the UK in the last week. The UK Sangat took this opportunity to seek the support and encouragement of Akal Takhat Sahib's Jathedaar for the Satkaar Campaign. Sevadaars have been informed that the Jathedaar gave statements supporting the Satkaar Campaign in Derby on Saturday 14 May, in Gravesend on Sunday 15 May, in West Bromwich on Monday 16 May and in Central London at Central Gurwara (Khalsa Jatha) on Wednesday 18 May 2011.

Importantly, the Jathedaar and his PA, Bhai Jaswinder Pal Singh Ji, confirmed that the 2006 Sandesh still applies in full force, and it is not superseded in any way by a letter from Akal Takhat Sahib to Ramgarhia Sikh Temple, Birmingham dated 31 March 2011. This letter is attached below:

As the Sangat will see, this letter is very vague and it does not suggest that the 2006 Sandesh has been revoked. Unfortunately, we are aware that certain Gurdwara committees may be seeking to use this letter to continue justifying/re-starting their Manmat of permitting meat, alcohol, tobacco, parties and dancing on Gurdwara premises. We alluded to this letter in our Press Release of 5 May 2011, though as the Sangat will see, Bhai Jaswinder Pal Singh Ji (who is also the signatory of the letter to Ramgarhia Sikh Temple, Birmingham) clarifies beyond doubt that this letter does not undermine the 2006 Sandesh and that it still applies in full force, in the video below:

Rather than seeking to find clever ways to justify having meat, alcohol, tobacco, parties and dancing on Gurdwara premises, we would once again humbly request the relevant offending Gurdwara committees to come within the Gurmat-fold. This also applies to the GNSS Dudley Gurdwara committee, where the UK Sangat is reminded of, and requested to attend on Saturday 28 May 2011 from 2pm, a peaceful protest against a meat and alcohol party being held at GNSS Dudley Gurdwara.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

[Into the Light 149]

This video completely clarifies that meat and sharab cannot be served in the Gurdwara or any Gurdara owned/affiliated building. If Ramgharia Gurdwara Graham Street are trying to go back on their own words and are thinking to allow parties (with or without meat/sharab) then they need to realise that this is just unacceptable and against Gurmat and the vidoe clarifies this!

This also applies to Dudley Gurdwara and all the Gurdwarae too!

[darknight 22]

Fantastic show on sikh channel last night.....highlighting the Dudley issue think this should be followed up...next week after the rally!!

[SukhdevSinghMedare 171]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Dear Khalsa

You are the the Panth of the Pure ,the Cream of the Crop.

I'm just an ordinary member of Dudley Gurdwara's sangat ,I have made some donations to their projects ,

I hold it dear in my heart and should like to defend it's good name .

If the committee need to rent out the Community Centre, which is on the other side of the road ,and then put those much needed funds to good use in the Gurdawara ,is that not a means to an ends.

A Gurdwara is a separate entity to the buildings next to it or adjacent to it, just relating buildings because the title used to be in the same name. My grandfather a retired Soldier helped in the early days of the Gurdwara back in the seventies, How do you represent our Gurdwara ,if you never make a donation or do seva here ,but only interfere with our enterprises.

Have you ever built a Gurdwara from scratch ,through hard work and donations and then tried to keep it running.

You are not accountable for the running of the Gurdwara's community enterprises so why disrupt there endeavours.They must account to the Dudley sangat thats all.

Your campaign seems to be to coerce the committee into allowing only the same practices in separate buildings, as allowed in the Gurdwara ,so where does it end ,do we take our shoes off in Community Centres next. This is a Good Gurdwara ,they would never allow beadbi ,I trust the committee ,they are very good Sikhs .

What is this petty protest, Our Guru is not being disrespected, but his Dudley Sikhs are by you . Battle those being raped or killed in the world, that would be worthy of your mighty heritage. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

[SinghWarrior 102]

I trust the committee ,they are very good Sikhs

Mr Medare, Can you please explain how "very good Sikhs" can allow the Sangat's money be used for promoting meat and alcohol? Where/how does Sikhi allow this?

Why can't you accept that this practice has been outlawed by the highest authority for Sikhs?

[SukhdevSinghMedare 171]

Mr Medare, Can you please explain how "very good Sikhs" can allow the Sangat's money be used for promoting meat and alcohol? Where/how does Sikhi allow this?

Why can't you accept that this practice has been outlawed by the highest authority for Sikhs?

Dear Self Proclaiming Warrior

The highest authority for Sikhs is God, and they are not promoting it , they are just allowing it ,as its not a sin to drink in a community centre, it's a separate place.

Regards

SinghWarriorGeneral

[SinghWarrior 102]

It's a separate place, which is (or was, until very recently) owned and managed by the Gurdwara.

You are trying to defend the indefensible. Does Akal Thakht not meaning anything to you and the rest of your Dudley committee?

[SukhdevSinghMedare 171]

Dear Singh brother

I commend your respect of the Akaal ,I just believe subsidiarity is a better organising principle

(In other words let those who donate/contribute ,are on the ground as it were sort these issues out like they do with the day to day operating

No respect is being done to the Guru ,you have to draw a separate line between community Halls and Gurdwa,

Thanks for your comments, perhaps we can agree to disagree

[TavPrasad Singh 60]

Dear Singh brother

I commend your respect of the Akaal ,I just believe subsidiarity is a better organising principle

(In other words let those who donate/contribute ,are on the ground as it were sort these issues out like they do with the day to day operating

No respect is being done ,it's only a convention that may need amending

Thanks for your comments

Sukhdev Singh ji. To you a gurdwara is a building with constitutions an clauses, just like a business. To the wider Gursikh sangat a Gurdwara is the house of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji where Gurmat principles are promoted. Dudley GNSS committee clearly dont have the gurmat to further progress Sikhi, oh but really know how to amend clauses and lie about ownership. That kind of Sikhi wont get you far...

[Gurmat1699 13]

waheguru ji ka fateh waheguru ji ki fateh

come-on you so call singh's,

we will be ready to receive you with "hugs"

[SukhdevSinghMedare 171]

Dear brother

I love it in the same way you do,If I thought it was being disrespected I would be with you,let me qualify I have no allegiance to the committee, and now live 120 miles away, but because my childhood was spent there and I admire the instituition I did not like people interfering and especially if not contributing.