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ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਚੇਰੀ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਸੋਭ ਨਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਰਤਾਰੇ ॥੧॥(SGGS jeeo - Ang 1267)

Female form, like a servant have no nobility without Husband Lord. ||1||

Edit: I am only allowing this post so the members of on the forum can help realize the flaw in their thinking.

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ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਚੇਰੀ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਸੋਭ ਨਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਰਤਾਰੇ ॥੧॥(SGGS jeeo - Ang 1267)

Female form, like a servant have no nobility without Husband Lord. ||1||

Edit: I am only allowing this post so the members of on the forum can help realize the flaw in their thinking.

Would I humbly request , please do not qoute a single TUK , AS IT BECOMES OUT OF CONTEXT,

in the present case , if we read the full shabad, with special emphasis on the RAHAO COUPLET

which carries the central idea of the shabad the meaning can be clear

DEar friend please do the exercise , if there is still doubt , this humble brother of yours will try to explain NEXT time

FATEH

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Incorrect translation by this malicious guest.

ਮਲਾਰ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥

Malaar, Fifth Mehl:

ਬਰਸੁ ਮੇਘ ਜੀ ਤਿਲੁ ਬਿਲਮੁ ਨ ਲਾਉ ॥

Rain down, O cloud; do not delay.

ਬਰਸੁ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਮਨਹਿ ਸਧਾਰੇ ਹੋਇ ਅਨਦੁ ਸਦਾ ਮਨਿ ਚਾਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

O beloved cloud, O support of the mind, you bring lasting bliss and joy to the mind. ||1||Pause||

ਹਮ ਤੇਰੀ ਧਰ ਸੁਆਮੀਆ ਮੇਰੇ ਤੂ ਕਿਉ ਮਨਹੁ ਬਿਸਾਰੇ ॥

I take to Your Support, O my Lord and Master; how could You forget me?

ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਚੇਰੀ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਸੋਭ ਨਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਰਤਾਰੇ ॥੧॥

I am Your beautiful bride, Your servant and slave. I have no nobility without my Husband Lord. ||1||

ਬਿਨਉ ਸੁਨਿਓ ਜਬ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਮੇਰੈ ਬੇਗਿ ਆਇਓ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਧਾਰੇ ॥

When my Lord and Master listened to my prayer, He hurried to shower me with His Mercy.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਮੇਰੋ ਬਨਿਓ ਸੁਹਾਗੋ ਪਤਿ ਸੋਭਾ ਭਲੇ ਅਚਾਰੇ ॥੨॥੩॥੭॥

Says Nanak, I have become just like my Husband Lord; I am blessed with honor, nobility and the lifestyle of goodness. ||2||3||7||

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dude seriously??, you need gurbani to tell you that men are more superior?? like why???!!!, woman are just as equal as men are, yes it might not be by strength as most men say that "oh woman have not much strength their weak" , but doesnt the fact that Mai Bhago being a general in Guru Gobind Singh ji's army prove to you that even that is underrated??

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Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

Behen ji,

Your post reminded me of a famous song

Desi bandri valaiti cheekan mare mundio, desi bandri !

Dude

Is that the way a Wannabe Bibi Bhago should address someone ?

Coming back to the topic,

i have just quoted the Gurbani Tuk which is the ULTIMATE TRUTH.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

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ਇਸਤ੍ਰੀ ਰੂਪ ਚੇਰੀ ਕੀ ਨਿਆਈ ਸੋਭ ਨਹੀ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਰਤਾਰੇ ॥੧॥(SGGS jeeo - Ang 1267)

Female form, like a servant have no nobility without Husband Lord. ||1||

you lot are kidding me yeah? you think this line is about men and women?

This is not about man and woman, but about Atma(female) and ParamAtma(male) telling us that humans have no nobility if they dont worship or serve their Lord God.

Gurbani throughout calls the Atma, the Soul-Bride, and ParamAtma the Husband Lord.

Dont get stuck on STTM translations, listen to Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindranwale's katha of Aad Guru Granth Sahib Ji, on gurmatveechar.com

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