Prophercied Of Guru Nanak Dev Jee In Hindu Scriptures?

[BhaiSukhSingh]

I came accross this whilst on the net

WHAT DOES SANGAT THINK OF THIS?

1. In the Hindu epic the RIG VEDA

(i) In Mandala 7, Ush 5, Mantra 5 and Chapter 6

"Bee chakram prithoi aishai ta khestraaeh Vishnu mansai das sayaan

throvaah so asaya keeryo janaas oeroo khashatra so janama

chakaar (8)"

meaning

"when in the world the sinful ways will be on the rise and noble behavior will vanish, as the disappearance of the moon when on its wane on the darkest night, there will appear Vishnu as a prominent Prophet from the Keshatra Clan and will manifest in consecutive form through 10 Prophets to bring back the ways of virtue to the ailing world."

(ii) In the same Vedas, in another part even in the name NANAK and the clan he belongs to is recorded thus -

"Sri Nanak gureng vareng saklaath heythoo. Heitha samasth jagathaa va veithee kaetheng"

meaning

"For the preaching of religious ways and the earning of good karma, there will manifest Guru NANAK from the clan of the Veithees"

(iii) At another position in the same Vedas is entered under Mandala 1 Soothak 5 and in the 7th Mantra thus -

"Eeth eethei Vishnu reinn chakramei threihaa nathathei patham"

meaning

"The Prophet in the Kali Yuga will manifest three attributes. As an Avtar propounding Truth, as a Householder establishing family life and at the same time be a Raja Yogi"

2. The YUJAR VEDA

As in the RIG VEDA quoted above, in the YUJAR VEDA also the Prophet in the Kali Yuga will manifest three main characteristics thus -

"Vishnu bee chakrageih treithaa neikthei patham samudhseiaa paaeh

serei swahaa"

meaning

"Vishnu will appear again, manifesting three main characteristics, Avtarhood, Householder family life and be a Rajah Yogi as well"

Although in the above two quotations the name of Nanak does not directly appear, reference to being a householder family man, would point to him because he was among the first few Avtars (prophets) who was married and begetting children.

Incidentally in Hindu mythology, VISHNU is the primordial Godhead Prophet, who incarnates on Earth taking many differing forms and the ensuing names thereto.

3. In the BHAVEKHATH PURANA

"BHAVEKHATH" means "future foretelling". There are numerous places in this famous Hindu epic where the advent of Guru NANAK is directly alluded to. These instances are listed hereunder -

(i)

"Theraa bhaareng thereshtwah keli krethem maha krethyaa. Aeveng vaee

tharam parchaariang bhavekhthee thaa kalau. Thatha vei

loka rakheiaartheng maleishana naas heithwei paschmeitlheng subh

theisay vath wensei chei Nanaka naam nach rekhiang brahem

geaanaik manas bhavekhet kaloe skunth thatar verth kaleaah har (35)."

meaning

"In the Kali Yuga when goodness in the world is deteriorating there

will appear a Prophet from the Beithi clan named NANAK

who from birth will be endowed with extra-ordinary spiritual power.

He will preach on the nobility of life and the eradication of

the sinful ways"

(ii) In another portion of this book the following short cogent quotation supplies further pertinent information on the advent of Nanak

"Guru thaa Brahma, Guru raa Vishnu, Guru raa dev maheshra saakhyaar

Parbrehem Thasmei NANAK nameh"

meaning

"The Guru of the prophets, Brahma, Vishnu and Shiv ji is God

almighty himself. This very Creator will manifest itself as a human,

in the form of one whose name will be NANAK

Note the clarity and explicitness in which the coming of Nanak is predicted.

(iii) Further down in this book is recorded the following detailed assertiveness about Nanak and the type of mission and work he shall perform. It appears to emanate from the Godhead itself.

"The Kali Yuga shall dawn on Earth with radical manifestation of destruction of Karma and Dharma to such an extent that every situation shall be colored by sinful activities. At that distressful moment, the Creator shall send down a spiritual luminary in the form of NANAK from the Khatria clan. He will spread the message of NAAM, the Holy life Force, by introducing the primacy of meditation and thus washing clean the sinful ways by the waters of love."

Note the beautiful and comprehensive description of the happening.

(iv) There is yet another quotation from this same Bhavekhath Purana indicative of Nanak and the 9 prophets that consecutively followed his lineage : -

"When in the world there is the deterioration of noble Dharma, then Vishnu will reincarnate through 10 Prophethoods and will preach on the universal and omnipotent value of NAAM. (the Holy Life Force)"

4. In DHIGVAJEH PURANA

"During the reign of the 8 Muslim rulers, Vishnu will incarnate in 10 human forms and after them will appear a (Mona) SILENT Guru (meaning the SGGS, the Sikh Scripture) who will only respond where the response is solicited."

The word SILENT is of great importance - it refers to the Sikh Scriptural Book (SGGS). This is the first time in the history of Religion that a Sacred Book was elevated to the status of a Prophet. Unlike a Prophet in body form with the inherent capacity to make utterances, a Book has to be categorized as being basically 'Silent'. This is indeed a startling revelation, pinpointing the coming into the world of a (mona) Silent Guru, thousands of years before the actual occurrence.

The eight Muslim Rulers were 1. - Sultan Lodhi, 2. - Babar, 3. - Humanyuh, 4. - Akbar, 5 - Jehangir, 6 - Shah Jahan, 7 - Aurangzeb, 8 - Bahadur Shah, These precisely were the Rulers in India during the period in which the 10th Sikh Guru came into being. This further emphasizes the authenticity of the revelation and the happening.

5. Through PATANJALI the great Indian (Hindu) Sage

Patanjali, one of the top Indian Yogis of old, came 2180 years before Guru Nanak. In his Ashram while lecturing on the Prophets of the Kali Yuga, the Iron Age, he singled out Guru Nanak as the one who will be outstanding. When asked what will be his prime mantra, He replied. -

"Wahyanti karyanti jathputi athak etwaha brahamadeya, teisah Gur et WAHEGURU"

meaning

"He will use a unique single syllable mantra which has not been utilized before at any Age or Era. This will be WAHEGURU."

Waheguru mantra, which means "Lord of Wonderment" has since been popularised by Guru Nanak and all the nine other Sikh Gurus that followed him.

6. In VISHNU PURANA

In the VISHNU PURANA there is recorded an interesting dialogue between VISHNU and a famous Rishi UMBREEK. Vishnu is said to have informed Umbreek that he will once again take birth in the Kali Yuga. The Rishi then enquired when about will that be and what will be your name then? Vishnu replied that this will happen when the Kali Yuga has proceeded for 4500 years and that I will take birth in the Shatri Sooraj Bansi clan, when I will be named, NANAK.

In this same Purana it is further recorded: -

"Sri Nanak santang saageaami

Sri asech, sri asech, sri asech, sri asech"

meaning

"Sri NANAK will once again appear in the world in a variety of incarnations; this is for sure, this is for sure, this is for sure."

[GuptUnknown]

No Vishnu is not Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji

[BhaiSukhSingh]

No Vishnu is not Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji

bhai sahib is that all you picked out ?? not that Guru Nanak was fortold ?

[ghatak]

I HAVE HEARD IN GIANI THAKUR SINGH JI'S KATHA THAT SOME RISHI LONG TIME AGO TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS THAT GURU NANAK SAHIB WILL COME IN KALJUG AND GIVE THE WAHEGURU MANTAR TO SIKHS

ANY THOUGHTS WHO THAT RISHI WAS ?

[ISW]

I HAVE HEARD IN GIANI THAKUR SINGH JI'S KATHA THAT SOME RISHI LONG TIME AGO TOLD HIS FOLLOWERS THAT GURU NANAK SAHIB WILL COME IN KALJUG AND GIVE THE WAHEGURU MANTAR TO SIKHS

ANY THOUGHTS WHO THAT RISHI WAS ?

Not sure about Rishi but there is a katha done by Giani Pooran Singh ji Damdami taksal Wale and the katha is called Kalki Avtar. I heard this a while ago but he sure does mention that rishi's name and much more about that Rishi and his writings.

[Beginner]

Why are they sayning Vishnu is Sri Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji Maharaj though?

[VanHelsingh]

Why are they sayning Vishnu is Sri Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji Maharaj though?

Why do Muslims say Guru Nanak Sahib was a Muslim saint? Its mischief making and designed to put doubts into the minds of Sikh believers.

[BhaiSukhSingh]

Not sure about Rishi but there is a katha done by Giani Pooran Singh ji Damdami taksal Wale and the katha is called Kalki Avtar. I heard this a while ago but he sure does mention that rishi's name and much more about that Rishi and his writings.

Kalki Avtar is Bani from Dasam Granth Sahib Jee this does not talk about Guru Nanak Guru Gobind Singh talks about the cumming fture

Why are they sayning Vishnu is Sri Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji Maharaj though?

im not sure myself

[Only five]

Has anyone gone back and actually looked at the claims made by the person presenting such prophercies exist in the Hindu text? If such prophercies exist, then we can take Bhai Gurdas Ji Vaars and Gurbani to see if they are completely true or false or partially true. Like the claim Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj is the incarnation Vishnu. This claim is rejected by Sri Dasam Granth.

Also does these prohercies suggest we should follow the Hindu text as whole true. Gurbani tells us to study these text, but not to accept them as the whole truth. Hukams tell us to study these text but only keep your faith in Gurbani. Regarding prohercies, Gurbani says the following:

isrIrwgu mhlw 1 ] (15-2)

sireeraag mehlaa 1.

Siree Raag, First Mehl:

lyKY bolxu bolxw lyKY Kwxw Kwau ] (15-3, isrIrwgu, mÚ 1)

laykhai bolan bolnaa laykhai khaanaa khaa-o.

As it is pre-ordained, people speak their words. As it is pre-ordained, they consume their food.

lyKY vwt clweIAw lyKY suix vyKwau ] (15-3, isrIrwgu, mÚ 1)

laykhai vaat chalaa-ee-aa laykhai sun vaykhaa-o.

As it is pre-ordained, they walk along the way. As it is pre-ordained, they see and hear.

lyKY swh lvweIAih pVy ik puCx jwau ]1] (15-3, isrIrwgu, mÚ 1)

laykhai saah lavaa-ee-ahi parhay ke puchhan jaa-o. ||1||

As it is pre-ordained, they draw their breath. Why should I go and ask the scholars about this? ||1||

[humkire]

I honestly do not see the point of whether or not the coming of Guru Maharaj and Sikhi was foretold by anyone. It makes no difference to the shan and mahan of both Gurujee and Sikhi whether or not it was foretold. Ancient texts whether hebrew and whether classical sanskrit rend themselves to a variety of interpretations over which scholars of religion argue as they defend their individual interpretations according to their own school of thought.

The understanding of the the greatness of Guru Nanak Dev is to be acquired through reading Gurbani and following Sikhi not by dabbling in past prophecies of other religions as interesting as they sound. We do not live to, up our ego, that our Guru's coming was foretold. Rather we humble ourselves by living as Sikhs of Gurujee. Our vishwas has to be built upon our understanding of Gurbani, not by peeking into the prophesies of others, whose motives can at best be suspect.

It is not what others prophesy about your birth that is important, it is what you do after being born that really matters.