Ppl with haircut doing path get kamaii or no ?

[N30S1NGH]

My best freind who is a mona is quite disciplined and its been meditating on mool mantar naam for 8 years, last year we casually start talking about simran, he did told me he can hear the mool mantar shabad dhuni that he now just listen to shabad dhuni inside and let shabad take care of rest...i remember we used to discuss for hours, 5 years ago regarding him taking amrit but up until recently i have given up to pursue further came to understanding after speaking to high avastha wale gurmukhs that vahiguroo works through mysterious ways that everyone is at different state of mind that divinity take lot of factors into account such as previous kaamiya, previous sanasakar, pre-ordained karam of an individual and how clean is antish karan of individual... naam is vahiguroo's gift, vahiguroo can give grace to devotee in whichever form of naam, naam has many forms- shabad mantra, pure grace through deliverance-sargun saroop, bhramgyan- self realization-gyan of real self/atma-paratama.

We are all different state of mind, avastha, gurbani gives updesh to three types of student:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/70060-three-types-of-students-according-to-gurmat/

[HKaur16]

I know of someone very close to me who does almost 7 Sukhmani Sahib Path several Jap Ji Sahib deh path (I'm not sure of how many) everyday, she has not taken Amrit. She has had darshan of Guru Ram Das Ji twice already. So Kamaii does count as stated above, Waheguru Ji works in great ways. Whomever he wants as a devotee will become his ardent devotee in any shape or form.

[luckysingh99]

A mona can be at a higher spiritual level and state of mind than an amritdhari.

I have known quite a few who are quite advanced and had darshan.

[JSinghnz]

A mona can be at a higher spiritual level and state of mind than an amritdhari.

I have known quite a few who are quite advanced and had darshan.

Really. So what excuse have these monas given you for not becoming Sikhs

despite being "quite advanced."

[Khalistani187]

Thanks guys for shedding some light on this topic reading dis most of my monay cuzins will be happy! Another little question when im at work i get bored nd start doing the mool mantr but im still concentrating on my work not fully concentrating on the mantr by doing dis do i still recieve phal from it ?

[osingh]

We definitely get benefits from reciting Gurbani even when concentrating on other things such as work. Doing sifat-salah (praise) of Parmeshar thorugh Gurbani/Kirtan while doing worldy tasks is pure Gurmat. Guru Nanak Dev jee ran a shop and worked in the fields - Guru jee proved that one can work and do sifa-salah of Akal Purakh at same time.

Regarding whether our mind is attuned to mool mantar/gurbani - the more we concentrate our surti on Gurbani the more phal we derive from it. One error we can make is that we think we will not be able to concentrate so therefore we will not do paath, this is wrong. The more paath we do throughout the day the more our minds will be concentrated when we get time to sit down in peace and for example do rehraas paath.

[tuhintuhin]

Thanks guys for shedding some light on this topic reading dis most of my monay cuzins will be happy! Another little question when im at work i get bored nd start doing the mool mantr but im still concentrating on my work not fully concentrating on the mantr by doing dis do i still recieve phal from it ?

yes....surely......you are remebering him while you are busy in duniyadari.....that's what we all should do .....

haath paa-o kar kaam sabh cheet niranjan naal

[luckysingh99]

Really. So what excuse have these monas given you for not becoming Sikhs

despite being "quite advanced."

They are sikhs, except they don't have no khes.

Personally I try very hard to not exclude monas from sikhi.

'Advanced'- was a reference to higher stages of simran.

[Gurpreet14]

Thanks guys for shedding some light on this topic reading dis most of my monay cuzins will be happy! Another little question when im at work i get bored nd start doing the mool mantr but im still concentrating on my work not fully concentrating on the mantr by doing dis do i still recieve phal from it ?

Once i just question someone- Roz Gurdware jaake matha tekan naal ki faida hunda... we dont listen gurbani.. we dont do path.. 5 min ch ki faida howega... te mainu reply milya..... Ki pta tere matthe di lakira badal jaaye :D

Same ki pta kad chit lage rabb da naa lende lende.... keep on taking his name... ek din te dil de taar jud jange :D - All the Best :D

[luckysingh99]

Thanks guys for shedding some light on this topic reading dis most of my monay cuzins will be happy! Another little question when im at work i get bored nd start doing the mool mantr but im still concentrating on my work not fully concentrating on the mantr by doing dis do i still recieve phal from it ?

No, remember the story of Guru Nanak Dev ji when he tells the quazis what they were thinking or what was on their minds during their prayers ?

You could be doing mool mantar and then your mind wanders into some ghandh on TV, this is not going to count is it ?

BUT at work as long as your doing a mundane task and it makes it difficult to concentrate on the mool mantar, you can still carry on doing it, because it's still better than not doing it.

But you must make sure that your mind is not wandering elsewhere away from your work task !!

MEANING_ if your on some computer or machine and doing some repetitive work and doing mool mantar but your thoughts are involving some bitchy stuff with your boss or some colleague, then this is NOT good is it ??????