Parents made me eat halal biscuits.

[Akal Warrior]

Waheguru ji ,

those who love guru absolutely will follow it those who do not choose use find excuses

our ancestors when they did not had food , stole from mugla camps and kirpan bhet it and ardas before eating it.

there is a sakhi regarding kirpan bhet also

we kirpan bhet karah parshad too

those who love will follow it strictly those who do not , find excuses

now will you stop doing nitnem if you are stuck at airport at amritvela?

i know i wont no matter how it seems rediculed to others

just because it seems weird to others , you should stop doing it.

2ndly if you think its weird and have doubt on your food , stop dont eat that one.

guru sahib told us to keep santhook also . not eat like idiots everytime we see something or are offered

bhul chuk maff , ji

didnt wanted to reply but i am sick of people questioning and falsifying our maryada .

wont be replying more

Singh Ji...i wasn't questioning the maryada of Kirpan Bhet at all. I just find it an insult to compare the circumstances our ancestors were in, to eating a biscuit bought from the store. Is the Kirpan Bhet maryada to be used when eating random, packaged foods we bought from the corner store after a nice walk in the park? How can we compare these two very different scenarios? (our ancestors were in a life and death situation, and this is just an an urge to eat a biscuit)

I was not ridiculing the Kirpan Bhet Maryada at all. I was trying to make a point. The fact is..that people come on line, and tell very young and impressionable kids to do things like pulling out a Kirpan whenever you are about to eat something. Can you imagine a bunch of young people eating out somewhere, and suddenly one of the Singhs pulls out a Kirpan to put it into the food. Is this what Kirpan Bhet Maryada is? We cannot compare the situations and the kurbani of our ancestors to scraping biscuits with a Kirpan before eating, while sitting on your comfy couch with a laptop, surfing the internet. No hard feelings bro. I wasn't doubting Kirpan Bhet Maryada at all.

[gurdeepsinghjohal]

Halal is forbidden and intoxicant also

ਖਾਣਾ ਪੀਣਾ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰੁ ਹੈ ਦਿਤੋਨੁ ਰਿਜਕੁ ਸੰਬਾਹਿ ॥

Khaanaa Peenaa Pavithra Hai Dhithon Rijak Sanbaahi ||

Eating and drinking are pure, since the Lord gives nourishment to all.

[luckysingh99]

Kirpan Bhet is part of ''Deg tegh fateh''

and I respect the discipline that Savinderji keeps with regards to this.

Deg=cooking vessel/food

Teg=weapon (sword/kirpan)

Fateh = meaning BOTH are victory

It is quite easily seen as a brahmanised ritual to some that don't follow it, just like Bibek rehat.

However, if we look into it a little deeply you realize that it is about ''Bharosa' and acknowledgement that the food is received directly from Guru and it is his blessing.

We all like our food to be made with cleanliness and hygiene, for eg. you will not want to eat from a restaurant or diner where the cook has dirty hands, hasn't washed, is eating along and tasting the food as well..etc...

Therefore, we ALL understand that the food should be hygienically and sensibly clean and made in such conditions.

Kirpan Bhet and bibek rehat goes on further for the Sikh to assure (bharosa) that the food is not just hygienically clean but ALSO 'spiritually clean'

When a Guru's Sikh has this spiritually clean and blessed food, then they know it is the food directly from Guruji with his divine blessing from the ardas !

Let me explain with another little example;

If you had a choice in picking whom made your roti -

in scenario-

1) a bibi that is swearing and mouthing off and thinking bad thoughts

2) a bibi that is reciting 'waheguru' with full dhian

NOTE-that in BOTH cases the roti and kitchen is exactly equivalent in hygiene and cleanliness-

This means that the roti from bibi 1 has no more or no less small bacteria than bibi 2.

You see what I mean, - we would still pick bibi number 2, because she has a positive and spiritually clean atmosphere and intent when making your roti !!!

If you understand this extra bibek rehat of 'spiritually clean' food then you will understand the intentions of kirpan bhet.

It is a strict discipline that helps one with their spirituality development, therefore there is nothing wrong with it.

I respect the people like Savinderpalji who keep this rehat sensibly !!

What I mean by sensibly is there are some people who take their ego too far and behave like all others not keeping their discipline are outcasts..etc. etc..

Hope that makes others like me that don't keep this discipline to understand and respect fellow Sikhs that do.

[S1ngh]

Don't worry about it.. Keep the peshy only for bujjer khureits. If we start doing peshy for such small stuff then the respect for amrit peshy/amritsaachar goes down.

Maybe next time read ingredients before you try new food

[jandialvi]

Even coke and pepsi in india and other countries where muslims reside have a little green dot indicating they are suitable for muslims. Dont mean they are halal.

[JagjeetST]

Guys what about if you ate a Barfi without knowing it had Egg in it, would a Japji Sahib & Ardass would be enough?

[VanHelsingh]

Anda in barfi? Why would anyone do that?

[Singh559]

Don't think an anda would ever be put into a barfi, it would mess up the barfi lol

[VanHelsingh]

Don't think an anda would ever be put into a barfi, it would mess up the barfi lol

Yup, aren't andhe used to make things rise? Barfi and other sweets aren't of that variety, are they?

[JagjeetST]

It said it on the plastic box Eggs in the ingredients I was shocked to read it after eating it...I was like ew man lol