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Manak nailed all major points in the above interview. Music industry must watch his interview.

I think main problem in punjabi music industry is having so much gandh in almost every music videos. As manak said its fault of people and tv channels for diluting real punjabi music culture.

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Wjkk, wjkf Sadh sangat ji, im trying to bring up my children with no caste. We do not watch channels like Brit Asia due to people like Sukhshinder Shinda, Jazzy B and Diljit Dosanj singing bhangra so

There are plenty of fake artists who claim to be dharmic when it suits them. Malkit Singh recently released some dharmic tunes. The same Malkit Singh who recently when he attended Downing Street to c

WJKK WJKF, Once again, I heard a sikh brother who greatly inspires me say on The Sikh Youth Show on the Sikh Channel on Sunday night that Diljit Dosanj is doing a great job inspiring people wearing h

I think they sing what sells to make a living... you had Miss Pooja and I think Lembher are not Jatt .... but sing songs bigging up Jatts because thats where the demand is and what sells... the lyrics regarding Caste, sharaab etc doesnt necessarily mean the singer endorses the lyrics... or even believes what they are singing... Miss Pooja is a known Ravidasia follower!!!

The blame does not belong with the singers but Punjabi community! Compare Diljit's dharmic album sales and his Jatt filled stuff... where does he earn a living?

I think we need to look at the Punjabi community that buys and demands these songs... if there was no demand there would be no supply. Kharku song from a sikh perspective is not good! but look how long it was number 1?

I fully understand the OP in stating that its kinda hypocritical but Diljit has done more for Sikhi in his songs and image with dastaar (albeit trimmed) then say Gurdass Mann or Malkit Singh IMO... He has full keshdhari singhs in his dharmic videos and most of the time he probably makes a loss on such releases. In addition it will be interesting to see his new film about 1984 and how he challenges the Indian Government... this is the first high profile punjabi singer that is making such a film. I understand how people view him as not a role model in Sikhi... but hes doing more than 95% of other singers,... and I dont think he considers himself to be any sort of Sikh based role model... I know he would feel uncomfortable should any associate him as being a role model for Sikhs...

However, I think we should support him more on his Sikhi based projects like his new film 1984 and albums... having met Diljit Singh I can confirm he is panthically aware and fully respects Sikhi... neither does he follow any deray baba or sing for them like most other high profile singers do...

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I think they sing what sells to make a living... you had Miss Pooja and I think Lembher are not Jatt .... but sing songs bigging up Jatts because thats where the demand is and what sells... the lyrics regarding Caste, sharaab etc doesnt necessarily mean the singer endorses the lyrics... or even believes what they are singing... Miss Pooja is a known Ravidasia follower!!!

The blame does not belong with the singers but Punjabi community! Compare Diljit's dharmic album sales and his Jatt filled stuff... where does he earn a living?

I think we need to look at the Punjabi community that buys and demands these songs... if there was no demand there would be no supply. Kharku song from a sikh perspective is not good! but look how long it was number 1?

I fully understand the OP in stating that its kinda hypocritical but Diljit has done more for Sikhi in his songs and image with dastaar (albeit trimmed) then say Gurdass Mann or Malkit Singh IMO... He has full keshdhari singhs in his dharmic videos and most of the time he probably makes a loss on such releases. In addition it will be interesting to see his new film about 1984 and how he challenges the Indian Government... this is the first high profile punjabi singer that is making such a film. I understand how people view him as not a role model in Sikhi... but hes doing more than 95% of other singers,... and I dont think he considers himself to be any sort of Sikh based role model... I know he would feel uncomfortable should any associate him as being a role model for Sikhs...

However, I think we should support him more on his Sikhi based projects like his new film 1984 and albums... having met Diljit Singh I can confirm he is panthically aware and fully respects Sikhi... neither does he follow any deray baba or sing for them like most other high profile singers do...

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When you met Diljit Dosanjh, how did you come to the conclusion that he is "panthically aware and fully respects sikhi"?. Did you watch jatt and julliette 1 & 2 and then listen to his song "Kharku" first before making your opinion? I find it completely ridiculous that people try and justify these caste endorsements done by these people and then say support them. I will never support a person who on one hand supports anti-gurmat and then on the other hand has the cheek to sing Dharmic geet! I will never let this person become a role model either. I do agree with you that the issue needs to be addressed within its demand. It's fine if a person believe in their caste, idolise themselves and wanna sing their castes praise and be apart of their caste. However I have a problem when they bring my gurus Nirmal panth into that! Any amrit dhari sikh who endorse this needs to ask themselves "why am I ok with is when it is causes segregation and bad issues within my religion"

Also how can you state that Diljit Dosanj has done more for sikhi albeit with a trimmed beard lol, why? The alcohol, women, caste and trimming of the beard becomes good for sikhi then if you simply have put a pagg on? So what your saying is adhere to Man Matt but with a pag on, encourage segregation, booze and girls within young people born into "sikh" families, then after you have done this the dharmic album will flop because people don't wanna listen to this as they want what you did first, but you have made a brilliant contribution to guru nanaks Nirmal panth!?

Also your right, the song "Kharku" is not "ok" from the sikh viewpoint, hence why I condemn these singers actions as I try to have a sikhi viewpoint on all things within my life, for me personally everything starts and finishes with my sikh viewpoint. My view point is man mat and it will always win if I give it the opportunity to voice it's opinion.

Again, caste and the image portrayed by people like Lembher hussanpuri, miss poojo and Diljit Dosanj should be condemned if we say we are religiously sikh, no amrit dhari should support such actions.

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Manak nailed all major points in the above interview. Music industry must watch his interview.

I think main problem in punjabi music industry is having so much gandh in almost every music videos. As manak said its fault of people and tv channels for diluting real punjabi music culture.

WJKK, WJKF

Dear brother,

Manak sahib is right in the context of the music industry, but my point is from the dharmic viewpoint, samaaj and virsa cannot mix with sikh gurmat as it becomes Mann matt.

Also, you did not reply to the post I made to you?

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There are plenty of fake artists who claim to be dharmic when it suits them. Malkit Singh recently released some dharmic tunes.

The same Malkit Singh who recently when he attended Downing Street to celebrate Vaisakhi failed to raise the Devinder Pal Bhullar case with David Cameron.. Then after agreeing to meet the sangat protesting outside ran away down the street when the sewadars back was turned.

Two faced people when it actually matters they don't care about dharam or Sikhi

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There are plenty of fake artists who claim to be dharmic when it suits them. Malkit Singh recently released some dharmic tunes.

The same Malkit Singh who recently when he attended Downing Street to celebrate Vaisakhi failed to raise the Devinder Pal Bhullar case with David Cameron.. Then after agreeing to meet the sangat protesting outside ran away down the street when the sewadars back was turned.

Two faced people when it actually matters they don't care about dharam or Sikhi

WJKK WJKF

AGREED!

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A complaint should be made to Sikh Channel. Also has anyone ever heard a Bhangra song that states another caste other than jatt?

WJKK, WJKF

The majority are jatt based, I understand old traditional panjabi folk songs are based on such stories like mirza jatt and the other 8 traditional love stories, I have no problem with these as it does not associate itself with sikhi, my problem is with today's modern bhangra, lyrics what are really based on nothing with no beauty, simply just silly songs sung by silly people wearing a khanda made outa gold. The majority being jatt tracks as you rightly said, however like other sikh have stated it fullfills the demand. This is were the problem is with the whole caste supremacy ideology all being promoted within sikhi, my problem lies with any caste being tagged to sikhi, not just the jatt and any vulgar portrayal being associated to guru nanaks Nirmal panth.

I am soooooo surprised at the support for such contradiction, it brings me down to the point that many "sikhs" really only say its ok because they must belong to the caste in regards to the bhangra song and if amrit chak, really they still harbour caste as I see no justification for this, well anything which taints sikhi.

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There are plenty of fake artists who claim to be dharmic when it suits them. Malkit Singh recently released some dharmic tunes.

The same Malkit Singh who recently when he attended Downing Street to celebrate Vaisakhi failed to raise the Devinder Pal Bhullar case with David Cameron.. Then after agreeing to meet the sangat protesting outside ran away down the street when the sewadars back was turned.

Two faced people when it actually matters they don't care about dharam or Sikhi

Yeah, I noticed that when I saw his song on twitter and also saw the hypocrisy in the song. With that said not all singers are like that, but artists usually are the product of the community. They give the community what they want.

Shouldn't expect anything from them and take what they do as face value. Kuldeep Manak's points are really important because it's coming from an actual singer who sang about history and the more positive and old part of our culture. He preferred to sing family oriented songs (I saw him and his son live a number of years ago) and remember his songs were very family oriented.

The problem with Punjabis is that they're too dense to appreciate depth in lyrics, he talks about how at one of his events someone told him to sing "nachan tappan wale gaane". He left the stage after that because he felt insulted. I think goal should be to inspire PUnjabi community to more positive things and slowly singers will change on their own.

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I think it is time not rely on others to do something. If some are praising them then let them praise. If you see fault or disease like castiesm then put your energy in finding solution rather than passing down fault next person you see.

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One SIkh singer I have had more respect for is K.S. Makhan who was involved in drugs like 2-3 years ago or so but became Amritdhari. I found his songs to be very inspirational for Sikh youth in Punjab as most of his songs are Sikhi related in terms of having pride of wearing dastaar and etc. But he came out with a recently new song "gurpurab gura da" singing about bhagat ravidas ji with his followers in the vid.... I found it a bit odd.

In my opinion, there is a lot to change in the Punjabi music industry. Of course first you have to clean up all the singers. I feel today's Punjab youth are looking up to Bollywood/ Punjab singers and actors instead of our great leaders of the Khalsa Panth who lived a unique life and give us much pride today. When these Punjabi teenagers look at how they dress up or how they shave they want to look exactly like them. It is absurd. They are falling into western culture style which in my opinion does not go with Sikhi lifestyle very well since we have many problems in America keeping Sikhi intact.

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I think it is time not rely on others to do something. If some are praising them then let them praise. If you see fault or disease like castiesm then put your energy in finding solution rather than passing down fault next person you see.

WJKK, WJKF

Dear brother,

This is not simply kicking the the can to some one else, this is about change and change can only happen within debate and opinions. As recognised by various sikhs who have contributed to this post, the problem lies with the demand and the person singing the song to fulfill that demand for monetary or fame purposes. The whole panjabi scene music industry is fine if it is left to do that. But the issue is when they start to associate it with sikhi. Jazzy B, Sukshinder Shinda, Malkit Singh and Diljit Dosanj are just a few of these contradictory contributors to the tainting of sikhi. This is where, WE as sikhs should be concerned and show our condemnation about the image portrayal of sikhs and the caste supremacy issues which are being associated with our dharam. It is not simply blaming the next person you see, rather identifying a problem, finding who are contributing to the problem and trying to raise awareness. This then involves the music producers, the singers and also the listeners. One person cannot do this alone, their has to be a United sikh stance to say "well no, we do not want our dharam to be associated with your gaandh basically!" However, the united stance is not there as many people still harbour caste supremacy issues, amrit dhari or not!

WJKK WJKF

One SIkh singer I have had more respect for is K.S. Makhan who was involved in drugs like 2-3 years ago or so but became Amritdhari. I found his songs to be very inspirational for Sikh youth in Punjab as most of his songs are Sikhi related in terms of having pride of wearing dastaar and etc. But he came out with a recently new song "gurpurab gura da" singing about bhagat ravidas ji with his followers in the vid.... I found it a bit odd.

In my opinion, there is a lot to change in the Punjabi music industry. Of course first you have to clean up all the singers. I feel today's Punjab youth are looking up to Bollywood/ Punjab singers and actors instead of our great leaders of the Khalsa Panth who lived a unique life and give us much pride today. When these Punjabi teenagers look at how they dress up or how they shave they want to look exactly like them. It is absurd. They are falling into western culture style which in my opinion does not go with Sikhi lifestyle very well since we have many problems in America keeping Sikhi intact.

WJKK, WJKF

Dear brother,

Are you from America and if so what is the state of sikhi at present especially within the youth?

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Dear brother, I am a 17 year old from US. I will speak from the bottom of my heart about the state of Sikhi youth in America. Currently American Sikhs especially the youth are lacking in following our Gurus teachings and even falling into the pit full of maya. Most Sikh girls and boys in their teenage years have been destroyed by western culture including drugs, alcohol, cutting hair, and vulgar music. Not only that but they don't even want to learn about Sikhi and their attendance for gurdwara shows that. Sikh camps are still going on, but lack of interest in Gurbani teachings and lack of knowledge of our Shaheedis is incredibly sad. My Sikh brothers in America are following all these famous people lifestyle making them shave and dress like them its sad. The whole panth is declining but there are some bright Sikhs in America that are keeping faith intact. Parents aren't taking the time to teach their kids when they are much busy themselves leaving their kid to be confused when he/she becomes a teenager. That is a root of one of many of the problems of our youth today.

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Dear brother, I am a 17 year old from US. I will speak from the bottom of my heart about the state of Sikhi youth in America. Currently American Sikhs especially the youth are lacking in following our Gurus teachings and even falling into the pit full of maya. Most Sikh girls and boys in their teenage years have been destroyed by western culture including drugs, alcohol, cutting hair, and vulgar music. Not only that but they don't even want to learn about Sikhi and their attendance for gurdwara shows that. Sikh camps are still going on, but lack of interest in Gurbani teachings and lack of knowledge of our Shaheedis is incredibly sad. My Sikh brothers in America are following all these famous people lifestyle making them shave and dress like them its sad. The whole panth is declining but there are some bright Sikhs in America that are keeping faith intact. Parents aren't taking the time to teach their kids when they are much busy themselves leaving their kid to be confused when he/she becomes a teenager. That is a root of one of many of the problems of our youth today.

WJKK WJKF,

What a shame it is to hear the state of sikhi in America. In the uk there has been an influx of people, generally younger who are reconnection to their sikhi. God willing the same will happen in America. It just takes a few gursikhs who live sikhi within every minute of their life to start this ball rolling. Here in the UK we have many young gursikhs who a giving a brilliant example to the younger generation. You may have already seen his videos on youtube, bhai Jugraj Singh from basics of sikhi, if you haven't share it with your friends and family and hopefully guru nanaks parchar will once again awake sleeping souls.

Is there also this caste supremacy ideology over sikhi in the states?

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From installing Sikh emblems, the Ik Onkar and Khanda at the World War I memorial in Ypres, Belgium in the memory of fallen Sikh soldiers to his contribution and presence at the unveiling of the bust of Maharaja Ranjit Singh in St.-Tropez, France, Harjinder has been highlighting the Sikh military history and making extensive efforts to promote it. From gifting a unique painting of Maharaja Ranjit Singh with his French General Jean François Allard to the French Ambassador in India, Alexander Ziegler, to hoisting the Nishan Sahib in Gallipoli in Turkey to pay homage to the unknown Sikh soldiers who were martyred there, Harjinder loves to promote the lesser known aspects of Sikh history zealously. Harjinder Singh Kukreja is also a top-notch travel influencer and an ambassador for outbound tourism from India. The Turkish Tourism Board admires Harjinder‘s clout on social media, and he has been invited several times to Turkey to promote their tourism. He and his family have been hosted several times by Inflow Summits in several regions of Turkey in association with Turkish Airlines. From the UK Tourist Authority to Iran’s unofficial Tourism Board -Feel Iran and several top-level Hotel brands like Hyatt, Ritz-Carlton, Kempinski and Four Seasons have collaborated with Harjinder Singh Kukreja and sought exposure on his social media pages.   Harjinder Singh Kukreja is also known for his entrepreneurial acumen. He spearheaded his family’s venture into giving Ludhiana’s chocolate aficionados the city’s first Belgian Chocolate Cafe, Belfrance Bakers and Chocolatiers, in 2015. The Ambassador of Belgium in India, H.E. Mr Jan Luykx, inaugurated Belfrance in upmarket Ludhiana. Harjinder Singh Kukreja travelled extensively to Belgium and other European nations to seek inspiration and even trained to craft real Belgian chocolate in Brussels to make Belfrance what it is today. Belfrance is famous worldwide for its annual chocolate Ganesha, which has received great reception by Indian and international media for many years.   A staunch believer in the significance and importance of the family unit for societal progress, Harjinder Singh Kukreja is well-known for being a family man. His social media pages are full of endearing images and videos of his loveable children -Rehras Singh, Aad Sach Singh and Rut Suhavi Kaur.  His wife -Harkirat Kaur Kukreja, whom he proudly introduces as the ‘Sikh Supermom’, is the powerhouse of his life.   The teachings of Guru Nanak make Harjinder always a step ahead to put his best foot forward by contributing during unfortunate natural calamities. He has helped many flood-affected people in Jammu & Kashmir and even the victims of the Chennai floods. “I believe in such times we all, as humanity, must give our services in the form of money, clothes, items of daily needs and food”, says Harjinder Singh Kukreja. In his efforts to bring equality and humanity together, Harjinder organised a unique Sikh Langar inside Ludhiana’s historical Mosque -Jama Masjid, where he welcomed people of all religions. This initiative was acclaimed widely and received accolades from across the boundaries of countries and communities. From educating unprivileged children to contributing to their marriages, Harjinder Singh Kukreja and his family are always ready to pitch in.  Harjinder Singh Kukreja has a soft-corner for the Syrian refugees because his grandfather, Randhir Singh Kukreja migrated to India, post the partition as a refugee from Sialkot, which is now in Pakistan. In 2017, Harjinder Singh Kukreja wore the jersey of Ravi Singh’s Khalsa Aid International and flew from Istanbul to Gaziantep in Turkey, merely 80 km from the war-torn Syrian capital, to spend an entire day with Syrian refugees.   Government schools and offices in France do not allow religious symbols like Turbans and Hijabs. Harjinder Singh Kukreja decided to voice his concern positively. In 2014, he skydived with the Turban from 14,000ft in St Kilda, Melbourne, Australia, and he is also the first Sikh to scuba-dive in the Turban in 2016 in Antalya, Turkey. “My Turbaned skydive was an effort made to raise voice in favour of not just the Sikh religion but for everyone who wears articles of faith like the cross, hijab, kippah, skull cap and the Turban”, says Harjinder Singh Kukreja.
    • 2023: The Earth’s orbit will change (nobody really knows what this means).  - similar been mooted by some kathavachaks 2025: The population of Europe will reach almost zero. - interesting but unlikely I think  2028: Mankind will fly to Venus, in hope of finding new sources of energy.  😂 2043: Europe’s transformation into an Islamic caliphate is complete. Rome is named the capital. The world’s economy thrives under Muslim rule.  - Doubt it unless the middle East invades Europe
    • https://www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/2021/10/21/mp-demands-answers-over-unjust-treatment-of-west-midlands-three/ MP demands answers over 'unjust' treatment of West Midlands Three By Peter MadeleyWolverhamptonPoliticsPublished: 4 hours ago   Preet Kaur Gill has demanded answers over the "targetting" of the men, known as the West Midlands Three, who were accused of being involved in a murder plot in India in 2009. The Home Office certified an extradition request in December 2020, but an appeal to hand them over to Indian authorities was dismissed in September after a District Judge found that no case could be established. Edgbaston MP Ms Gill, who is chair of the all party parliamentary group for British Sikhs, has demanded answers over the handling of the case. She also called for the Home Office to push for the release of another British national, Jagtar Singh Johal, who has been held in an Indian jail without charge for more than four years. Ms Gill said: "The case of the West Midlands Three is appalling. Having met with them, I've seen first-hand the unjust treatment which they have been subjected to. "The targeting of innocent, British Sikhs has no place in our society "Jagtar Singh Johal has now been detained in India, facing the death penalty, for more than four years with only an alleged confession obtained under torture as evidence. "In accordance with foreign office policy where an individual is arbitrarily detained, the UK Government must act and call for Jaggi's release. It is vital that the foreign secretary now makes this urgent request."
    • https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/amritsar/sikh-activists-give-rs-1-lakh-to-singhu-victims-wife-daughters-want-to-help-as-lakhbir-victimised-them-7582565/ Sikh activists give Rs 1 lakh to Singhu victim’s wife, daughters: ‘Want to help as Lakhbir victimised them’ To offer the same, Gangveer Singh Rathore and Sunny Singh Khalsa, both independent social workers, visited village of Lakhbir’s in-laws in Amritsar. The wife and three daughters of Lakhbir Singh, who was lynched at Singhu border, have received financial help of Rs 1 lakh from two Sikh activists. To offer the same, Gangveer Singh Rathore and Sunny Singh Khalsa, both independent social workers, visited village of Lakhbir’s in-laws in Amritsar. They said that they had collected this money through voluntary donations and were offering it on behalf of the community. In written statement later, they said, “We don’t want to create any wrong perception that family of sacrilege suspect would get financial aide. We want to help these girls because they were also victimised by Lakhbir who never fed them. However, some people are using these girls to create sympathy for Lakhbir and play dirty politics. I would like to ask these people not to use these girls to play their politics, but help them instead…They should be helped because they were troubled by Lakhbir. Rest, our views of the incident at Singhu border are same as that of Akal Takht acting jathedar Giani Harpreet Singh.” On Sunday, Bheem Army chief Chandrashekhar Azad had met Lakhbir’s sister, Raj Kaur, at village Cheema Khurd in Tarn Taran and provided financial assistance of Rs 5,000 while promising more help. While providing financial help, Gangveer said, “We learnt through newspapers that Lakhbir’s three daughters and wife were not looked after by him. In last five years, Lakhbir never cared to know how they were living….His brother-in-law Sukhchain Singh endorsed these news stories. Allegations of his involvement in the sacrilege act have created more trouble for the family. Their lives were already full of misery…There is no scope of keeping any malice toward the family for the alleged actions of Lakhbir.” In a video with Sikh activists, Lakhbir’s brother-in-law, Sukhchain Singh, said, “If Lakhbir is guilty, we stand with the community.”
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