Kirpal Singh To Kirpal Massiah

[Nalwa 122]

Are we going to take any action or are we going to watch this happening in front of our eyes. Anyone who visit Punjab frequently will agree that new Churches are coming up in Punjab.

सिखों की सर्वउच्च संस्था SGPC (शीरोमिनी गुरुद्वारा प्रबंधक कमेटी) धयान दे, पंजाब में हो रहा है सिखों का बड़े स्तर पर धर्मांतरण, इस पोस्ट में जो सरदार जी मेरे साथ नजर आ रहे वो असल में सरदार अब नहीं रहा, इनका नाम था किरपाल सिंह पर अब ये पिछले साल से "किरपाल मसीह" हो चूका है और कर रहा है इसायित का प्रचार।
आज जब ये "किरपाल मसीह" मुझे मिला तो इसने बताया के 40 साल गुरूद्वारे में पाठी का काम करता था पर अब ये मसीह हो चूका है।
दोस्तों, हम लोग जब धर्मांतरण के खिलाफ काम करते है तो कई बार हमें साधनों की कमी से अपनी मुहीम को रोकना पड़ता है पर SGPC जो की विश्व के सभी गुरुद्वारों का नियंत्रण करती है को पैसे की कोई कमी नहीं फिर भी आंखे बंद करके सोई हुई है।
कई बार SGPC अध्यक्ष कह चुके है के सिख बिलकुल सही है उनका कोई धर्मांतरण नहीं हो रहा शायद मेरी यह पोस्ट उनकी आंखे खोलने में कामयाब होगी।
अगर किसी SGPC नेता को किरपाल मसीह का पता चाहिए हो तो मुझसे संपर्क करे।

Sarvauchch institution of SGPC Sikhs (Gurudwara Manager shiromini Committee) are Sikhs in Punjab dhayan give, at a macro level of no, this post is coming with me to the Sardar-ji he is no longer the Paladin was named Kirpal Singh on them now are from last year's desecularise and Christ "" Kirpal is isayit proclaim Christ "when it" today Kirpal. I found, it's 40 years of pathi in the graveyard Used to work but now it is desecularise be Christ. friends, we work against when no so many times we have to stop their lack of means is muhim SGPC which makes control of all world of gurudwaras no shortage of money still eyes closed has slept many times have to say Chairman of SGPC. Sikh is not exact is probably my no no This post will be able to open their eyes. If anyone should know the SGPC leaders Kirpal Christ to contact me. (Translated by Bing)

[Nalwa 122]

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[SSD 51]

It's just a Pakhand, ask why he hasn't cut his Kesh? Dulip Singh cut his Kesh to be a Christian. This is just a man that wants fame, money, or power. Why else would anyone be a follower of Jesus? Also ask if this person was Amritdhari? Ask if they got up Amrit Vela? Ask if this person was a Drug Addict? This is all Pakhand: All of it!

[sikhiseeker 271]

It's just a Pakhand, ask why he hasn't cut his Kesh? Dulip Singh cut his Kesh to be a Christian. This is just a man that wants fame, money, or power. Why else would anyone be a follower of Jesus? Also ask if this person was Amritdhari? Ask if they got up Amrit Vela? Ask if this person was a Drug Addict? This is all Pakhand: All of it!

WJKK WJKF

Sikha, you have just judged millions of Christians all around the world in one little sentence lol.

[sat 544]

He may or may not have been a Rehatvan Gursikh at some point , his faith was tested and he failed.

The path of sikhi is not easy, sharper than the edge of a sword and smaller than a hair, this is his play.

[Nalwa 122]

We spek out openly against Deras and RSS brainwashing Sikhs but i haven't heard anyone talking about Sikh conversion to Christianity . I was shocked to see so big churches on Jalandhar road .

[SSD 51]

WJKK WJKF

Sikha, you have just judged millions of Christians all around the world in one little sentence lol.

http://ehmerapunjab.tumblr.com/post/12196199485/the-lost-palace-of-amritsar-clock-tower oh, the Anglicans were responsible for separating Punjab and making 40% of our Panth refugees, a Christian was responsible for Jaliawala Bagh Massacre, A Christian was responsible for the situation in Israel and Palestine today (not a Jew), the Crusades happened because of the Christians, Oak Creek happened because of a Christian. Ok let me make this fair and mention crimes Sikhi has done to humanity: N/A. Let's see what Jesus said, "I am the way the light and the truth, Nobody comes to the Father except through me!" Let's see what Guru Nanak said,(All the Gurus were the same, today's light comes through Guru Granth Sahib)"

Those who meditate on God attain salvation. For them, the cycle of birth and death is eliminated (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 11)." If we are going to say something about someone converting to Islam, or Dera Guru, we should also mention Christianity:(Made by an ex-follower Jesus, I recommend you watch it). http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=fZBHByPUwlM

[Koi 677]

Unfortunately, all too common these days.

[Jonny101 4,496]

Unlike other religious groups, the Christians employ very deceptive methods to spread their faith. Which ever religious group they intend to target they will dress like them, speak like them and act like them. In the case of Sikhs, they will look like a religious Sikh in order to fool other Sikhs because most Sikhs have respect for a Saabat soorat Sikh. Sikhs should arm themselves with knowledge of Sikhi and also of other religions. That is the only way to counter their deceptive parchar.

[TurbanGuys 106]

its fake... ....and har gal nu chakki na jaya kro......delete kro inhu.... the truth behind of this is that Rss and shivsena is lacking the support of sikhs in punjab...

[sikhiseeker 271]

http://ehmerapunjab.tumblr.com/post/12196199485/the-lost-palace-of-amritsar-clock-tower oh, the Anglicans were responsible for separating Punjab and making 40% of our Panth refugees, a Christian was responsible for Jaliawala Bagh Massacre, A Christian was responsible for the situation in Israel and Palestine today (not a Jew), the Crusades happened because of the Christians, Oak Creek happened because of a Christian. Ok let me make this fair and mention crimes Sikhi has done to humanity: N/A. Let's see what Jesus said, "I am the way the light and the truth, Nobody comes to the Father except through me!" Let's see what Guru Nanak said,(All the Gurus were the same, today's light comes through Guru Granth Sahib)"

Those who meditate on God attain salvation. For them, the cycle of birth and death is eliminated (Guru Granth Sahib Ji, 11)." If we are going to say something about someone converting to Islam, or Dera Guru, we should also mention Christianity:(Made by an ex-follower Jesus, I recommend you watch it). http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=fZBHByPUwlM

WJKK WJKF

I didn't know the perpetrators of the above crimes you mentioned personally, however you simply cannot judge a whole religious percentage on the actions of individuals or groups of people who promote they are from the particular religion. That's somewhat ridiculous.

Also, the tennents of the 10 commandments, which derive from the Jewish Torah are the real basis of Chrishiantity. No book or record was ever recorded by jesus's own hand or during his life. It was written down after.

Do you not recognise the fact that the person who converts must have a weak connection to their previous religion? Maybe we should look at the reasons of why modern day sikhs would convert and establish some understanding. Sikhs are now settled all over the world, prospering, yet the birthplace of sikhi is in squalor, with not much respect for one another, caste issues, drug and alcoho lissues, poverty issues, farming issues including suicide, rape issues, murders carried out by the governments, genocide, self explortation, prostitution, individual dera babas and an let's not forget, female baby abortions. No wonder people wanna sell their land and move out! Do you not think, as Sikhs we should address these issues and question what do we do within our own nirmal dharam?

To judge all Christians by the doings of other Christians is silly, should we judge all Hindus on the way Sikhs were treated in 1984?

Have you ever heard of the Christian lady, Mary secole? Or the Christian nun Dhan dhan Mother Theresa, or William Wilberforce? Maybe Martin Luther King or even Doctor Cole, who tried to offer his service to shiri Guru Gobind Singh?

You also forgot to mention the "Sikhs" who were brought by the Brithish in the Sikh-Anglo wars, or the sikhs who promote their caste supremacy under the Nirmal panth of sikhi!

I find it's better to make a decision based on individual circumstances, rather than tarnish all, with the same brush.

Your posts on the topic " gori sardani sets a grey example" are kinda of relevant here, as you quoted gurbani, the light of Akal purakh is within all, that means Christians too!

On a personal note, I have met a few beautiful people in my life living in the uk as I am Brithish.

Many of these people were Christians who serve people with love, equality and humilty.

This Kirpal Singh is only demonstrating his weakness towards sikhi, in my opinion it is better that the weak links within our dharam break off and move on, leaving one United strong linked chain.

WJKK WJKF

[JSinghnz 1,221]

its fake... ....and har gal nu chakki na jaya kro......delete kro inhu.... the truth behind of this is that Rss and shivsena is lacking the support of sikhs in punjab...

And why should Sikhs in Punjab support RSS and Shivsena?????????????????

And this christian infiltration is a matter of serious concern for Sikhs in Punjab, it is not a

"and har gal nu chakki na jaya kro"

[SSD 51]

WJKK WJKF

I didn't know the perpetrators of the above crimes you mentioned personally, however you simply cannot judge a whole religious percentage on the actions of individuals or groups of people who promote they are from the particular religion. That's somewhat ridiculous.

Also, the tennents of the 10 commandments, which derive from the Jewish Torah are the real basis of Chrishiantity. No book or record was ever recorded by jesus's own hand or during his life. It was written down after.

Do you not recognise the fact that the person who converts must have a weak connection to their previous religion? Maybe we should look at the reasons of why modern day sikhs would convert and establish some understanding. Sikhs are now settled all over the world, prospering, yet the birthplace of sikhi is in squalor, with not much respect for one another, caste issues, drug and alcoho lissues, poverty issues, farming issues including suicide, rape issues, murders carried out by the governments, genocide, self explortation, prostitution, individual dera babas and an let's not forget, female baby abortions. No wonder people wanna sell their land and move out! Do you not think, as Sikhs we should address these issues and question what do we do within our own nirmal dharam?

To judge all Christians by the doings of other Christians is silly, should we judge all Hindus on the way Sikhs were treated in 1984?

Have you ever heard of the Christian lady, Mary secole? Or the Christian nun Dhan dhan Mother Theresa, or William Wilberforce? Maybe Martin Luther King or even Doctor Cole, who tried to offer his service to shiri Guru Gobind Singh?

You also forgot to mention the "Sikhs" who were brought by the Brithish in the Sikh-Anglo wars, or the sikhs who promote their caste supremacy under the Nirmal panth of sikhi!

I find it's better to make a decision based on individual circumstances, rather than tarnish all, with the same brush.

Your posts on the topic " gori sardani sets a grey example" are kinda of relevant here, as you quoted gurbani, the light of Akal purakh is within all, that means Christians too!

On a personal note, I have met a few beautiful people in my life living in the uk as I am Brithish.

Many of these people were Christians who serve people with love, equality and humilty.

This Kirpal Singh is only demonstrating his weakness towards sikhi, in my opinion it is better that the weak links within our dharam break off and move on, leaving one United strong linked chain.

WJKK WJKF

Yes, I did mention that Vaheguru's light is on all, and some Christians are very nice people, but even those few don't make the 2 billion. If 2 billion people were good, this world would be a much better place, oh, if you mention Missionaries, they are the biggest thieves in the world. An example is Africa, in the beginning Africa was a very rich continent and respected continent for intellectuals to travel to, but then a man was born: Yeshua Ben Yosef. This man is the greatest conman that ever lived, being send as a messanger, he abused his right as God's prophet and started getting people to Jaap Jesus instead of "Yahweh". Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that God sent many people but they all failed, and spread their own believes instead of the truth. Also the Crusades were personally because of the Pope, the leader of all of Christianity at the time (the communicator with Jesus), just how liberal should I be? How many crimes can I forgive? Too what extend can I forgive Kirpal?

[SSD 51]

Yes, I did mention that Vaheguru's light is on all, and some Christians are very nice people, but even those few don't make the 2 billion. If 2 billion people were good, this world would be a much better place, oh, if you mention Missionaries, they are the biggest thieves in the world. An example is Africa, in the beginning Africa was a very rich continent and respected continent for intellectuals to travel to, but then a man was born: Yeshua Ben Yosef. This man is the greatest conman that ever lived, being send as a messanger, he abused his right as God's prophet and started getting people to Jaap Jesus instead of "Yahweh". Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that God sent many people but they all failed, and spread their own believes instead of the truth. Also the Crusades were personally because of the Pope, the leader of all of Christianity at the time (the communicator with Jesus), just how liberal should I be? How many crimes can I forgive? Too what extend can I forgive Kirpal?

Also, Christians judge non-Christians based on one person all the time, you break the law, see how the Christian media considers you" Sikhs broke the law!" "Kill all these Sikhs"(similar to 1984) what they will forget, Hind Di Chadar. All logical thinking Christians become Atheists for a reason, don't you think?

[TurbanGuys 106]

And why should Sikhs in Punjab support RSS and Shivsena?????????????????

And this christian infiltration is a matter of serious concern for Sikhs in Punjab, it is not a

"and har gal nu chakki na jaya kro"

When did I say sikhs should Support rss and shivsena In punjab????

I said They lack the support Of sikhs in Punjab.

I think you did not catch my drift .

What I wanted to say Some days Ago There was a fight Happened in Shivsena /Rss and These Christian parcharks.

Christian Parcharks Were beaten by these shivsena and Rss very badly ..

The reason Was they were targetting Hindus Especially those who belong to backward Castes .

I have an association with a name " Turban Guys " and I have been contacted hundreds of time to support these Shivsena /Rss ..

The other guy you see in this pic might be a member of Hindu Bajrang Dal in punjab because I have seen him many times in Hindu Rallies ...