Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lala Jagat Narain was killed because he said disrespectful things towards Sant Jarnail Singh , and because he was a witness against the AKJ in the 1978 Amristar Massacre trial. 62 of the newspaper staff were also killed. (over a period of time)

Am I the only one who thinks this seems like terrorism? Don't get me wrong, because I am against the corrupt Indian Government and I think it was amazing how Sant Jee was waking up Panjab. But I don't think it is right to kill someone unless they are using or directing violence at someone. Personally, I have libertarian views and I think you should let everyone express their opinions , even if you don't agree. This is why I fear that if Khalistan is ever created that it will become like a Muslim country where you can get arrested for insulting the Prophet or something, which is against human rights.

What if in the future someone creates some film disrespectful towards Sikhi? Are Singhs going to stab/shoot/attack them like Charlie Hebdo?

Please understand and correct me if I am wrong

Bhul Chuk Maaf Karo Jee

WJKK WJKF

EDIT : It seems that he also said things extremely disrespectful towards Guru Gobind Singh Sahib

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lala Jagat Narain was killed because he said disrespectful things towards Sant Jarnail Singh , and because he was a witness against the AKJ in the 1978 Amristar Massacre trial. 62 of the newspaper staff were also killed.

Am I the only one who thinks this seems like terrorism? Don't get me wrong, because I am against the corrupt Indian Government and I think it was amazing how Sant Jee was waking up Panjab. But I don't think it is right to kill someone unless they are using or directing violence at someone. Personally, I have libertarian views and I think you should let everyone express their opinions , even if you don't agree. This is why I fear that if Khalistan is ever created that it will become like a Muslim country where you can get arrested for insulting the Prophet or something, which is against human rights.

What if in the future someone creates some film disrespectful towards Sikhi? Are Singhs going to stab/shoot/attack them like Charlie Hebdo?

Please understand and correct me if I am wrong

Bhul Chuk Maaf Karo Jee

WJKK WJKF

You are wrong, lala kuttaa narain was killed for saying/writing blasphemous articles in panjabi newspapers about dhan dhan guru gobind singh, NOT sant jarnail singh! If ppl were gona be murdered for slandering sant jarnail singh in the 80s, the victims count would run into the thousands. That dirty journo narain wrote shocking things about guru ji, such as sayin that he was a loverboy, romeo lustful man etc. He was warned many many times by sikhs, to stop this nonsense, he didnt, therefore he was beautifully murdered, hence y, i dont say a thing wen muslims go on a rampage for proph muhammed cartoons etc. In history, ANYONE who was caught attempting to kill, or deliberatly disrespect guru ji, have been dealt with, so u may wanna re-think the whole terrorism slant there pal. For eg, Muslims have told ppl before to stop drawing these cartoons, but ppl love creating drama. Also freedom of speech has a limit, coz theres freedom of speech, THEN there is hate speech, for the sake of it!

Also the 62 other newspaper staff killed?? Thats the 1st ive ever heard of that!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You are wrong, lala kuttaa narain was killed for saying/writing blasphemous articles in panjabi newspapers about dhan dhan guru gobind singh, NOT sant jarnail singh! If ppl were gona be murdered for slandering sant jarnail singh in the 80s, the victims count would run into the thousands. That dirty journo narain wrote shocking things about guru ji, such as sayin that he was a loverboy, romeo lustful man etc. He was warned many many times by sikhs, to stop this nonsense, he didnt, therefore he was beautifully murdered, hence y, i dont say a thing wen muslims go on a rampage for proph muhammed cartoons etc. In history, ANYONE who was caught attempting to kill, or deliberatly disrespect guru ji, have been dealt with, so u may wanna re-think the whole terrorism slant there pal. For eg, Muslims have told ppl before to stop drawing these cartoons, but ppl love creating drama. Also freedom of speech has a limit, coz theres hate speech, THEN there is hate speech, for the sake of it!

Also the 62 other newspaper staff killed?? Thats the 1st ive ever heard of that!

So you do not think Guru Gobind Singh Jee was not given the most disrespect when the journalist was killed in the name of Guru Sahib and in his roop? Do you think in their afterlife, Guru Gobind Singh Jee is going to reward them for taking the life of another human being? You NEVER murder someone over words, only if it was in the protection of another.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You are wrong, lala kuttaa narain was killed for saying/writing blasphemous articles in panjabi newspapers about dhan dhan guru gobind singh, NOT sant jarnail singh! If ppl were gona be murdered for slandering sant jarnail singh in the 80s, the victims count would run into the thousands. That dirty journo narain wrote shocking things about guru ji, such as sayin that he was a loverboy, romeo lustful man etc. He was warned many many times by sikhs, to stop this nonsense, he didnt, therefore he was beautifully murdered, hence y, i dont say a thing wen muslims go on a rampage for proph muhammed cartoons etc. In history, ANYONE who was caught attempting to kill, or deliberatly disrespect guru ji, have been dealt with, so u may wanna re-think the whole terrorism slant there pal. For eg, Muslims have told ppl before to stop drawing these cartoons, but ppl love creating drama. Also freedom of speech has a limit, coz theres hate speech, THEN there is hate speech, for the sake of it!

Also the 62 other newspaper staff killed?? Thats the 1st ive ever heard of that!

Thanks for the info. As you know the media are loaded with dumb propaganda and they always never write the truth about what happened back in the 80s .

Also I seem to have forgotten the name of the book where I read that 62 were killed. I think If I remember correctly it was during the entire Panjab insurgency that 62 from the same newspaper were killed.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

ANYONE who was caught attempting to kill, or deliberatly disrespect guru ji, have been dealt with,

Brother there is an appreciable difference between talk and actions.

If somebody says something against Guru Ji, leave them to it, it doesn't do any harm unless we allow it to.

However if somebody attempted to physically assault Guru Ji, or their disrespect went beyond words and into actions then this would merit a very different response. Anyone who defiles a saroop for instance, should be fiercely dealt with.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

In Sooraj Parkash katha during the time of 6ve Paatshah there was a person who terrorized a village that Guru Sahib was in, this thug also used to shout very disrespectful things at Guru Sahib and Sikhs were ready to thrash him but Guru Sabin stopped them from thrashing him because he only disrepcted the 6th Guru and not Guru Nanak Dev Ji. One day he made the mistake of disrespecting Guru Nanak Dec Ji and that was when Guru Sabin ordered Sikhs to put ring in his nose and then drag him around the village while villagers slapped him with juthian. Not sure if I told the story accurately but the point is that the person was already a criminal who harmed the villagers.

khalsa ji, ive never heard of that one, but sound bit similar to another more well known 1. Lets NOT forget, on bandi chorr, guru hargobind fulfilled his earlier prophecy/promise of bringing to justice, the person who had his dad (guru arjan dev ji) murdered/shaheed, at the age of 11. After being released by jahanghir from gwalior jail, guru ji requested jahanghir to hand over chanddu, whom was the man who had guru arjan dev ji arrested initially. The sangat were then ordered to beat chanddu to death via jutthia (shoe beating) all the way to lahore and drag chanddu via a ring in his nose all the way to his death!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Brother there is an appreciable difference between talk and actions.

If somebody says something against Guru Ji, leave them to it, it doesn't do any harm unless we allow it to.

However if somebody attempted to physically assault Guru Ji, or their disrespect went beyond words and into actions then this would merit a very different response. Anyone who defiles a saroop for instance, should be fiercely dealt with.

no offence to all the guys on here with there respectable views, but id rather listen to a mahapurkh like sant jarnail singh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • was researching this and came back to this thread. Also found an older thread:    
    • Net pay after taxes. If you don't agree, think about this: If you were a trader and started off in China with silk that cost 100 rupees and came to India, and you had to pay total 800 rupees taxes at every small kingdom along the way, and then sold your goods for 1000 rupees, you'd have 100 rupees left, right? If your daswandh is on the gross, that's 100 rupees, meaning you have nothing left. Obviously, you owe only 10% of 100, not 10% of 1000. No, it's 10% before bills and other expenses. These expenses are not your expenses to earn money. They are consumption. If you are a business owner, you take out all expenses, including rent, shop electricity, cost of goods sold, advertising, and government taxes. Whatever is left is your profit and you owe 10% of that.  If you are an employee, you are also entitled to deduct the cost of earning money. That would be government taxes. Everything else is consumption.    
    • No, bro, it's simply not true that no one talks about Simran. Where did you hear that? Swingdon? The entire Sikh world talks about doing Simran, whether it's Maskeen ji, Giani Pinderpal Singh, Giani Kulwant Singh Jawaddi, or Sants. So what are you talking about? Agreed. Agreed. Well, if every bani were exactly the same, then why would Guru ji even write anything after writing Japji Sahib? We should all enjoy all the banis. No, Gurbani tells you to do Simran, but it's not just "the manual". Gurbani itself also has cleansing powers. I'm not saying not to do Simran. Do it. But Gurbani is not merely "the manual". Reading and singing Gurbani is spiritually helpful: ਪ੍ਰਭ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁਭਾਖਿਆ ॥  ਗਾਵਹੁ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਪੜਹੁ ਨਿਤ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰ ਪੂਰੈ ਤੂ ਰਾਖਿਆ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The Lord's Bani and the words are the best utterances. Ever sing hear and recite them, O brother and the Perfect Guru shall save thee. Pause. p611 Here Guru ji shows the importance of both Bani and Naam: ਆਇਓ ਸੁਨਨ ਪੜਨ ਕਉ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ ਨਾਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿ ਲਗਹਿ ਅਨ ਲਾਲਚਿ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਜਨਮੁ ਪਰਾਣੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The mortal has come to hear and utter Bani. Forgetting the Name thou attached thyself to other desires. Vain is thy life, O mortal. Pause. p1219 Are there any house manuals that say to read and sing the house manual?
    • All of these are suppositions, bro. Linguists know that, generally, all the social classes of a physical area speak the same language, though some classes may use more advanced vocabulary. I'm talking about the syntax. That is, unless the King is an invader, which Porus was not. When you say Punjabi wasn't very evolved, what do you mean? The syntax must have been roughly the same. As for vocabulary, do you really think Punjabis at the time did nothing more than grunt to express their thoughts? That they had no shades of meaning? Such as hot/cold, red/yellow/blue, angry/sweet/loving/sad, etc? Why must we always have an inferiority complex?
    • I still think about that incident now and then, just haven't heard any developments regarding what happened, just like so many other things that have happened in Panjab!
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use