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just had this drop on my feed , apparently officially Baba Dalip 'Singh' has officially rejoined panth and has given hukhamnama to his followers to do same and have Guru of Guru Granth Sahib,

I feel mixed on this:

1. having seen them greeting RSS peeps in photos recently taken

2. they have not retaken amrit from Panj just put on kirpan

anyway here's the link, tell me what you reckon:

https://www.facebook.com/ASRPM/posts/1614584432125884

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The process of assimilation into the Khalsa Panth is going to be slow for them Bhenji. It isn't easy to just stop believing in everything which was once the bedrock of your existence. Give them time

I grew up with kookey. They are some of my good friends and still talk to them. They are probably the biggest believers in Gurbani but when it comes to the human Guru, that's when things get twis

you really do take in your surroundings and notice details! I've read so many of your interesting travel anecdotes on here, keep it up brother. Some of us travel more but notice less, lol.

The process of assimilation into the Khalsa Panth is going to be slow for them Bhenji. It isn't easy to just stop believing in everything which was once the bedrock of your existence.

Give them time to adjust. We should rejoice at the return of wayward sons and daughters.

well if they were being full-on sincere they should it least adhere to panth's rehit and break from previous 'amrit' rules

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I'd give them 1-2 years just to see if they're sincere about it. Many might leave this current Guru of theirs and make a new Guru, others will join the Panth. By then we can see who is actually interested in being a Sikh and whatnot.

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i think namdharis are integral part of our panth.

integral means they are essential for the existence of the panth ...how can they be integral when they have excluded themselves for how many decades and rejected Guru ji's rehit ...please think about it ...True if they have renounced the act of setting up dehdhari Gurus , done pesh before Panj and taken amrit of Khalsa Rehit then no problems then they are brother and sisters again else they are just becoming bheki sikhs with a lot of hindu customs such as havan.

Don't get me wrong I would love for all of them to become Khalsa then we will gain a lot of sangeet gian again

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integral means they are essential for the existence of the panth ...how can they be integral when they have excluded themselves for how many decades and rejected Guru ji's rehit ...please think about it ...True if they have renounced the act of setting up dehdhari Gurus , done pesh before Panj and taken amrit of Khalsa Rehit then no problems then they are brother and sisters again else they are just becoming bheki sikhs with a lot of hindu customs such as havan.

Don't get me wrong I would love for all of them to become Khalsa then we will gain a lot of sangeet gian again

Integral perhaps wasn't the best choice of words. 'Beneficial' would have been better. One cay say what they will of the Namdharis, but as you've mentioned, they have almost singlehandedly managed to preserve the integrity of the puraatan tradition of Gurmat Sangeet. These ustaads of tanti saaz in the mainstream Sikh world - almost every single one of them was taught by a Namdhari. Two of the most prominent here in the UK, Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie and Professor Surinder Singh (Raj Academy) were both students of Ustaad Surjeet Singh Namdhari.

I think they are due a lot of respect.

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Integral perhaps wasn't the best choice of words. 'Beneficial' would have been better. One cay say what they will of the Namdharis, but as you've mentioned, they have almost singlehandedly managed to preserve the integrity of the puraatan tradition of Gurmat Sangeet. These ustaads of tanti saaz in the mainstream Sikh world - almost every single one of them was taught by a Namdhari. Two of the most prominent here in the UK, Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie and Professor Surinder Singh (Raj Academy) were both students of Ustaad Surjeet Singh Namdhari.

I think they are due a lot of respect.

Don't Namdharis have 2 Gurus? Uday Singh and Dalip Singh? And only one is willing to join the Panth?
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Integral perhaps wasn't the best choice of words. 'Beneficial' would have been better. One cay say what they will of the Namdharis, but as you've mentioned, they have almost singlehandedly managed to preserve the integrity of the puraatan tradition of Gurmat Sangeet. These ustaads of tanti saaz in the mainstream Sikh world - almost every single one of them was taught by a Namdhari. Two of the most prominent here in the UK, Bhai Harjinder Singh Lallie and Professor Surinder Singh (Raj Academy) were both students of Ustaad Surjeet Singh Namdhari.

I think they are due a lot of respect.

I mean I had to choose between taking instruction at a local Namdhari centre or obey Hukham to stay away and I chose rehit . Maybe others will disagree but I felt that if I was meant to learn punjabi from a gursikh then something so much more important as gurmat sangeet then the basics would have at least that level of discernment.

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so perhaps the media were premature to announce Namdharis in general ... which faction is larger Uday's shish or Dalip's?

Dailysikhupdates claims that the majority of the Namdharis follow Thakur Dalip Singh (the figure is given as 80%). I don't know if this has been verified, but I suspect not. Uday Singh however is the official Guru of the Namdharis and he is in possession of the lands at Bhaini Sahib.

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