How Easy Is It To Infilrate Sikh Organisations While Working For Indian Goverment? And Vice Versa?

[genie]

We have seen what happened in the 1940 to present day with heavy infiltration of Sikh organizations by keshdhari hindus who grew their hair and wore a turban easy job done thing .......and no infiltrations within the Indian establishment of real Sikh interests/agenda people.

So are Sikhs weak at both? (ie Stopping infiltration and infiltration of their ideological and political enemies?)

[jkvlondon]

We have seen what happened in the 1940 to present day with heavy infiltration of Sikh organizations by keshdhari hindus who grew their hair and wore a turban easy job done thing .......and no infiltrations within the Indian establishment of real Sikh interests/agenda people.

So are Sikhs weak at both? (ie Stopping infiltration and infiltration of their ideological and political enemies?)

problem is the places where the real deal is being worked out is barred to Sikhs and muslims , there is an unspoken bar. Because there is a culture of acceptance of outside roop as signifier of inner life most Sikhs have vadda dumalla chita chola syndrome ....if it looks like a sikh , talks like a sikh must be a sikh ....they miss out 'acts like a sikh' which is really the crux of the matter .

[genie]

problem is the places where the real deal is being worked out is barred to Sikhs and muslims , there is an unspoken bar. Because there is a culture of acceptance of outside roop as signifier of inner life most Sikhs have vadda dumalla chita chola syndrome ....if it looks like a sikh , talks like a sikh must be a sikh ....they miss out 'acts like a sikh' which is really the crux of the matter .

Yes exactly you can notice this lack of infiltration with no pro-sikh policies having been addressed in the indian union all have been one way towards reducing our influence and population.

And thats why we are having all the problems since 1940s. SGPC alienated hindu punjabis, dalits in 1940s and now further they are trying to reduce our demographics when its demographics = votes - political power in a democracy.

So it was relatively easy for keshdhari hindus to infiltrate our orgs on all levels they excluded most Sikhs out of the Sikh panth who later on went on to become hindu punjabis and used hindu punjabis to fight against our Sikh national interests. They made the manta acceptable that if you dont look like a keshdarhi then you aren't a sikh. Yet the real mantra should have been if you don't act like a sikh you are not a sikh regardless of appearance or bana you may have.

HP's and Mona Sikhs shoiuld have and can infiltrate indian establishment but cos enemies of Sikhi got in our institutions first they were able to manipulate the kaum in such a way that it created decades of bloodshed and human rights abuses.

[Jonny101]

Problem is not Hindu infiltration as much as our own traitors. We have no shortage of choli chuks and people who are willing to sellout.

[MisterrSingh]

Problem is not Hindu infiltration as much as our own traitors. We have no shortage of choli chuks and people who are willing to sellout.

The sad fact is most Sikhs can be bought incredibly easy.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Many fake Sikhs aren't very hard to influence in their faiths, (this is why Christians as well as Hindus easily converted "so-called Sikhs"), if the "fake Sikhs", went to other places, there would be less Missionary Anti-Dasam Granth Pakhand. (The leader of the fake Sikhs is Badal, who calls himself the leader of the "so-called Sikh" party in Punjabi and Indian politics).