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Painting of 2 Sikh doctors in independent Panjab (from collection sold at Bonhams):  

the body runs on only the equivalent of a teaspoon worth of hormones for all processes all year ...that indicates that the intelligence of the body's immune system and the body's reactivity is highly

Okay, but for all his vices Ranjit Singh was a brilliant leader who brought security and economic prosperity to the Panjab. Badal probably follows rehat more closely than Ranjit Singh ever did, but he

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Drunk amatures should not undertake the Ghanjah. It's a recipe for your mind sounding funny and getting the spins, most likely vomitting, which is kind of a blessing since one has poisoned one's self. 

For smarter Manmukhs the order is Ghanjah first alcohol second. The other way is disaster. 

Thankfully we just don't poison ourselves period. 

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3 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

 

I've been around...a lot...a ...lot of cannabis users. Of the thousands I can think of, I know one dude and one dude only that gets paranoid enough from time to time he stops. Then after purging goes back to chill occasional use. And he did thousands of hits of acid so I think that's a factor. 

This is the closest major city to burning man. I've been there, been to music festivals, been all over to where the people love the good green herb and I have never run into that, never heard a story like that, never heard a cautionary tale like that. 

Not saying it's impossible but the numbers have to be miniscule. 

Oh right! Snoop. Yes, definitely not a role model. He's a good example for that reason. Gang banger, violent historically, uses or used harder drugs...still chill...the cannabis is the best thing he has going for him. It obviously makes him a better person not worse. If it was psychosis inducing Tommy Chong would be psychotic and so would half the world. 

If you asked Ranjit Singh what he was drinking he might say wine. But to him that's a mix of things. Who's to say what his brother was drinking is all I'm saying. And that it sounds...strange. 

My point was to post an interesting bit of text from someone from a medical background. Don't think that I'm some sort of prohibitionist. Like I said, it effects some people negatively, but I've seen plenty of people from a variety of backgrounds, from labourers, , solicitors, salesmen, brickies, music producers, artists (I could go on) use it without adverse effect. This isn't condoning or promoting the use btw. These are just observations. 

I think if you have certain pre-existing conditions, it could have averse effects, and it might not even be fully  generalisable like that - it might be that certain strains have a more negative effect on these people than others?     

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5 hours ago, GurjantGnostic said:

Churrus is refered to online as a narcotic resin made from hemp which means it's opium mixed with hash oil. 

And apparently contained "unkown intoxicants". 

In Panjabi churrus is usually just cannabis resin, what they used to call ash or hash in england. But you are right, he might have been taking a cocktail of stuff?  

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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

In Panjabi churrus is usually just cannabis resin, what they used to call ash or hash in england. But you are right, he might have been taking a cocktail of stuff?  

I thought he was adding crushed pearls to his cocktails. Any idea the effect of this? It's also rumoured his doctor increased the amount that led to his early demise.

 

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One of the things I'm getting from the above book is that indigenous 'hakims' were more sophisticated than I thought. They seemed to be knowledgeable about a lot of substances. Addiction must have been an issue in the past too, because the book contains various 'remedies' for them. 

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Food prohibitions of Sikhs and Hindus.

The spirit produced from Cabul grapes, for the use of Runjeet Sing, was distilled in that place in my presence, by his own people, because everything eatable or drinkable, destined for Sikhs and Hindoos, must be prepared by their own hands, no Christian or Musselman being permitted to touch it, lest they should pollute it.

 

Dear veerji

Does the above mean that ranjit Singh was a bibeki and ate/drank only from the hands of fellow Sikhs?

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16 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

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It is definitely interesting bro. I would like to point out the "medical professional" here is treating this elusive and rare effect of cannabis..with...what else...leeches.

Drs today are still dangerously arrogant and ignorant. Drs then...lol...their solution to everything was blood letting and blood letting only cures ONE thing. They were quite comfortable telling you how much they knew though, while they put a used needle into your arm to drain out blood you need. 

The..hubris of drs throughout history should be a lesson to us all, and their day of ignorance is far from over today. 

I'd take a vetrenarian over an md just about any day in history...including this one...especially for apocalyptic antics. 

Only drs europe really had were burned at the stake. 

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5 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Food prohibitions of Sikhs and Hindus.

The spirit produced from Cabul grapes, for the use of Runjeet Sing, was distilled in that place in my presence, by his own people, because everything eatable or drinkable, destined for Sikhs and Hindoos, must be prepared by their own hands, no Christian or Musselman being permitted to touch it, lest they should pollute it.

 

Dear veerji

Does the above mean that ranjit Singh was a bibeki and ate/drank only from the hands of fellow Sikhs?

Honigberger says in general Sikhs and Hindus won't consume stuff prepared by European hands? Given what I've read in this book, and anecdotal evidence, I think that poisons were so easily available, people had to watch out for it. Remember even Sukha Singh's [the guy who slew Massa Ranghar] parents' drugged him unconscious to cut his kesh because they were scared he was going to get arrested and killed. When I read the book, it's obvious that there was a lot of knowledge about very powerful natural substances floating about. 

This book is crazy, it's over a century and a half old but references a lot of cannabis products I see around today, like lozenges, cannabutter. Wow. I tell you Sikh Raj Panjab was WELL AHEAD Of its time! 

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8 minutes ago, GurjantGnostic said:

It is definitely interesting bro. I would like to point out the "medical professional" here is treating this elusive and rare effect of cannabis..with...what else...leeches.

Drs today are still dangerously arrogant and ignorant. Drs then...lol...their solution to everything was blood letting and blood letting only cures ONE thing. They were quite comfortable telling you how much they knew though, while they put a used needle into your arm to drain out blood you need. 

The..hubris of drs throughout history should be a lesson to us all, and their day of ignorance is far from over today. 

I'd take a vetrenarian over an md just about any day in history...including this one...especially for apocalyptic antics. 

Only drs europe really had were burned at the stake. 

You know what bro, this doctor, from what I can tell, wasn't as narrow minded or arrogant as many others, he seemed genuinely interested in learning from various traditions. 

But I do get your point. But that being said, I don't think there is any source that records indigenous medical practices like this one (even if some of them were a load of bollox). So it's pretty invaluable in that respect.   As with everything else, it needs to be read with intelligence and scrutiny.  

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4 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Honigberger says in general Sikhs and Hindus won't consume stuff prepared by European hands? Given what I've read in this book, and anecdotal evidence, I think that poisons were so easily available, people had to watch out for it. Remember even Sukha Singh's [the guy who slew Massa Ranghar] parents' drugged him unconscious to cut his kesh because they were scared he was going to get arrested and killed. When I read the book, it's obvious that there was a lot of knowledge about very powerful natural substances floating about. 

This book is crazy, it's over a century and a half old but references a lot of cannabis products I see around today, like lozenges, cannabutter. Wow. I tell you Sikh Raj Panjab was WELL AHEAD Of its time! 

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Amen bro. Hah at the end there, he was about to reference running through the fields to get covered in resin. I've heard about that but there weren't no pants. 

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1 minute ago, dallysingh101 said:

You know what bro, this doctor, from what I can tell, wasn't as narrow minded or arrogant as many others, he seemed genuinely interested in learning from various traditions. 

But I do get your point. But that being said, I don't think there is any source that records indigenous medical practices like this one (even if some of them were a load of bollox). So it's pretty invaluable in that respect.   As with everything else, it needs to be read with intelligence and scrutiny.  

Absolutely. Great find, great share. 

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Interesting images from the work:

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Various types of consumers. 

 

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Looks like some form of distillation taking place?  Various sized bottles for storage are clearly visible. Maybe containing ingredients or the finished compounds? 

 

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This is what an indigenous pharmacy looked like. The pharmacist appears to be Sikh. We can see bottles for storage on shelves, scales to weigh substances, and even what looks like a distillation device on the left. So presumably such pharmacists not only brought compounds/substances from the market but synthesised their own?

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