Gurbani on meat

[JS79 336]

3 minutes ago, Kira said:

The fact that you pick and choose what to believe and what to toss out is an sign of what kind of character you possess, I hardly need to be omniscient to know what that means.  I haven't brought up the Taksal here at all, You threw shade now at Bhai Mani Singh Ji's capabilities of knowing what Guru Sahib wrote and what he didn't. You insulted Mata Sundri Ji's own capabilities in knowing what her earthly husband wrote. Going by how you said you partially believe in the bani (and that you seem to do Nitnem with 5 banis) I would say you believe that Chaubis Avtar, Sri Charitropakhyan, Jaap Sahib, Akaal Ustat are amongst the bani you believe in? :)))))

I never pointed at guru ji or mata ji or bhai mani singh. I have no idea how u ppl jump to sich conclusions. Beyond me. Then again im not shocked tbb.

Sangat who has been reading my replies knows what i have said. I neved said anything abt mata ji.

Why dont you just interview me on the tv. That way you can see all my beliefs. 

 

[Kira 1,405]

Just now, JS79 said:

I never pointed at guru ji or mata ji or bhai mani singh. I have no idea how u ppl jump to sich conclusions. Beyond me. Then again im not shocked tbb.

 

Sangat who has been reading my replies knows what i have said. I neved said anything abt mata ji.

Who complied the Dasam Granth? Did it just magically come together? Bhai Mani Singh Ji and Mata Sundri Ji worked tirelessly for years to compile it. To say that the Guru Sahib's own Mehal and one of the most closest Sikhs in his circle can't see which banis are Guru Sahibs and which are fakes is the highest form of Nindya. To say you disregard any portion of the Dasam Granth Sahib is insulting Mata Ji. 

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Why dont you just interview me on the tv. That way you can see all my beliefs. 

I've already seen all I need to see. You've yet to answer my question.

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I would say you believe that Chaubis Avtar, Sri Charitropakhyan, Jaap Sahib, Akaal Ustat are amongst the bani you believe in? :)))))

 

[JS79 336]

3 minutes ago, Kira said:

 

...I've already seen all I need to see. You've yet to answer my question...

 

Hinduvaad is in almost every corner of sikhi. We are polluted by it. Of course i believe in bani i am not a missionary. But our ithihaas is full of lies. All i am saying i do not believe it is all maharajs bani. Pretty simple right. Whether you like it or not. I dont believe dasam granth should be on the same level as maharaj. 

Well then i have said all that there is to say.

[Kira 1,405]

8 minutes ago, JS79 said:

Hinduvaad is in almost every corner of sikhi. We are polluted by it. Of course i believe in bani i am not a missionary. But our ithihaas is full of lies. All i am saying i do not believe it is all maharajs ban

Stop avoiding my question, Do you consider Chaubis Avtar, Sri Charitropakhyan, Jaap Sahib, Akaal Ustat are amongst the bani you believe in?

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Pretty simple right. Whether you like it or not. I dont believe dasam granth should be on the same level as maharaj. 

The only people who kept the Marayada of Prakash of Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth are the Nihung Singhs who incidentally have a thriving community of Sikhi going on. When they do prakash of all 3 of Guru Sahib's bani , Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is given the biggest Palanquin. Sarbloh Granth and Dasam Granth are given smaller ones so NO no one is saying Dasam Granth is replacing Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. If you don't think Dasam Granth bani is as important as Gurbani from Guru Granth Sahib Ji then stop reading Jaap Sahib, Chaupai and Tav Prasad Saviye. All 5 are equally important. 

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But our ithihaas is full of lies

Yeah, I mean those poor singhs right. Giving up their angs for Sikhi, giving up their lives, their families and everything. I mean what did they know? clearly they didn't know the correct Sikhi, I mean the real truth came out when a random Sikh read 1 book about the basics of Sikhi and suddenly entered into Nirvana (!) 

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Hinduvaad is in almost every corner of sikhi.

I agree there's alot of Brahmvaad creeping into Sikhism. But the spread isn't coming from the inside but the out. Dasam Granth isn't the issue, the issue is people like you who throw shade left, right and centre at it in an attempt to stand up again "Hinduvaad"

[Preeet 576]

18 minutes ago, Singh1989 said:

Preeet Ji! Glad you posted this as I was wondering, does this shabad goes to Christian, Hindu and Muslim? (Non - Sikhs) or just Sikh sects? (Nihang, Taksal, normal Sikh) etc?

Vaheguru ji Ka Khalsa
Vaheguru ji Ki Fateh, ji

Sat Sri Akal Singh ji! I think gurbani ji lines are applied to all humans. I think that trying to justify being 'free from paaps' because of a belief is not possible, these laws are applied to everyone equally. Just because someone may not believe in this dharma does not change the truth of sikhism being true and gurbani being applied to all.. (I am talking about all paaps in general). bhull chuk maafkijye Vaheguru ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji Ki Fateh

[Akalifauj 900]

I'm a vegetarian but if I ever need to jkatka an animal.  The first animal would be the sacred cow of the Hindus.

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On 8/10/2017 at 5:39 PM, Akalifauj said:

I'm a vegetarian but if I ever need to jkatka an animal.  The first animal would be the sacred cow of the Hindus.

SAME

[Singhkhalsa19842020 8]

On 8/6/2017 at 1:48 PM, singh598 said:

The Gurus realize that food affects our mind as well as intoxicants

Meat will make you more animalistic making your body enlarge and increasing sex sleep and anger

Guru Gobind Singh ji said Khalsa Panth is Guru too. 

The panth made Sikh Rehat Maryada in 1945. 

No one is allowed to change it. Same way no one should change the 4 Bujjer Kurehits. 

AKJ changed the Maryada and so did Damdami Taksaal. 

This is wrong. 

The Akal Takht, the panth maryada says no halal meat. Thats what it should be. 

No one is allowed to change that. 

Unfortunately Sikhs have now fallen victim to budh mat, brahmin mat, jain mat. 

Meat is allowed in sikhism but not Halal. 

How ever the Gurdwara must accommodate all so thats why it is veg. 

I am a Gursikh who follows the Akal Takht Maryada and occasionally i do eat jatka meat. 

Sant Maskeen ji had a beautiful katha about this 

Heres the link please watch it, and stop with the nonsense, Guru Nanak dev ji said only fools argue over a diet. Dont mix Jain, brahmin and hindu religion in with Sikhi. 

Guru hunted and ate meat. 

There is life in saag too said Guru Nanak Dev ji. 

Just make sure the meat your getting is Organic Farm raised, NOT MASS BUTCHER FACTORY. 

The animal must live a humane life, and must not be ritualistically killed. 

People the diet is a personal choice. 

We have our Guru Granth sahib ji and our Khalsa panth. We are not allowed to change maryada. The Panth made. That includes the 4 Bujjer Kurehit 

Shame on anyone who did . 

Only FOOLS argue over a diet. 

Listen to Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj 

And listen to this youtube clip of Sant Maskeen ji katha. 

Waheguru ji ka khalsa 

Waheguru ji ke fateh

[Singhkhalsa19842020 8]

Guru Gobind Singh ji said Khalsa Panth is Guru too. 

The panth made Sikh Rehat Maryada in 1945. 

No one is allowed to change it. Same way no one should change the 4 Bujjer Kurehits. 

AKJ changed the Maryada and so did Damdami Taksaal. 

This is wrong. 

The Akal Takht, the panth maryada says no halal meat. Thats what it should be. 

No one is allowed to change that. 

Unfortunately Sikhs have now fallen victim to budh mat, brahmin mat, jain mat. 

Meat is allowed in sikhism but not Halal. 

How ever the Gurdwara must accommodate all so thats why it is veg. 

I am a Gursikh who follows the Akal Takht Maryada and occasionally i do eat jatka meat. 

Sant Maskeen ji had a beautiful katha about this 

Heres the link please watch it, and stop with the nonsense, Guru Nanak dev ji said only fools argue over a diet. Dont mix Jain, brahmin and hindu religion in with Sikhi. 

Guru hunted and ate meat. 

There is life in saag too said Guru Nanak Dev ji. 

Just make sure the meat your getting is Organic Farm raised, NOT MASS BUTCHER FACTORY. 

The animal must live a humane life, and must not be ritualistically killed. 

People the diet is a personal choice. 

We have our Guru Granth sahib ji and our Khalsa panth. We are not allowed to change maryada. The Panth made. That includes the 4 Bujjer Kurehit 

Shame on anyone who did . 

Only FOOLS argue over a diet. 

Listen to Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj 

And listen to this youtube clip of Sant Maskeen ji katha. 

Waheguru ji ka khalsa 

Waheguru ji ke fateh

[Akalifauj 900]

3 hours ago, Singhkhalsa19842020 said:

Make you a lion. Singhs right. Lions eat meat. If Guru Gobind Singh jis ...singhs are not lions then they can eat grass like cows 

  

3 hours ago, Singhkhalsa19842020 said:

Guru Gobind Singh ji maharajs Singhs are suppose to be lions .....not grass eating cows herds. 

Lions and hawks eat meat. ...

Sheep and cows eat grass..  

Which you think is khalsa ? 

This is pure comedy.  Singhs are lions in the aspect of fighting.  If you look at who is the hunter in the lion family it is not the lion.  The hunter is the lioness.  Lions control their area and protect the family from attack.  First learn why Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib ji called Singhs lions then apply the analogy. 

[TigerForce1 194]

18 hours ago, Singhkhalsa19842020 said:

Guru Gobind Singh ji maharajs Singhs are suppose to be lions .....not grass eating cows herds. 

Lions and hawks eat meat. ...

Sheep and cows eat grass..  

Which you think is khalsa ? 

The vast majority of the world eats a ‘meat’ based diet and that goes for the majority of faiths too.  Their actions are a far contrast to what ‘Lions’ do, more in line with ‘dog’s really.  Diet has nothing to do with being like ‘Lions and Hawks’. 

[Singhkhalsa19842020 8]

36 minutes ago, TigerForce1 said:

The vast majority of the world eats a ‘meat’ based diet and that goes for the majority of faiths too.  Their actions are a far contrast to what ‘Lions’ do, more in line with ‘dog’s really.  Diet has nothing to do with being like ‘Lions and Hawks’. 

Wjkk wjkf 

Yes tigerforce, you are right 

I was mistaken 

Thanks for messaging 

Waheguru 

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On 9/30/2019 at 2:17 AM, Singhkhalsa19842020 said:

Guru Gobind Singh ji maharajs Singhs are suppose to be lions .....not grass eating cows herds. 

lions are respected because they are brave and have dignity,

not because they slaughter helpless animals

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On 8/11/2017 at 1:39 AM, Akalifauj said:

I'm a vegetarian but if I ever need to jkatka an animal.  The first animal would be the sacred cow of the Hindus.

you think Guru Tegh Bahadur ji would approve?

cow is not worshipped, but it is respected by sikhs.  Maharaja Ranjit Singh banned cow slaughter and the kukas also revolted against cow slaughter.

you drink its milk, then you turn around to kill it and its offspring?

you want to kill an animal just because you hate a group?

you're not "Akali fauj".  go learn what "dharam" and "daya" means.

any sikh that eats beef is a disgrace.

 

[Akalifauj 900]

7 hours ago, Guest guest said:

you think Guru Tegh Bahadur ji would approve?

cow is not worshipped, but it is respected by sikhs.  Maharaja Ranjit Singh banned cow slaughter and the kukas also revolted against cow slaughter.

you drink its milk, then you turn around to kill it and its offspring?

you want to kill an animal just because you hate a group?

you're not "Akali fauj".  go learn what "dharam" and "daya" means.

any sikh that eats beef is a disgrace.

 

Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib ji did not stick his neck out for Hindus.  He stuck his neck out because a group of people were being slaughtered because of their beliefs. That could have been any group, it just so happened at that time it was Kashmiri pandits. So, in the correct context, you have no point.  Massaging a pandits legs will get you no points in God's book, but you will continue to do it because you are blind.  I can just see your head spinning as you read the word "book".  I wonder which way you will twist this word now.

If my post about cow jhatka is read in context of previous post made by pro hindu posters, then it's well understood the comment was made to ignite a fire that challenges their ideas.  

A goat also gives milk to its offspring and humans for consumption.  So why is it that the goat is allowed to be chopped up by some Sikhs for food?  Are these people a disgrace? The goats blood is used in a ritual, while the cow is respected?  Seems to me the pandit just didn't get his legs massaged from you, he gave you the house special.  What about the people who close their eyes to how their veggies came to the market?  Some poor person was exposed to chemicals over a long period  of time and will get a illness that will eventually kill him.  Is a cow's life more valuable than goats and a poor human? 

But you are God,  you get to choose what you value and don't.   The rules are made up as you are pulled and pushed by your pandit.  

Why use the word hate?  I know because you're an emotional mess and that's your way of trying to label someone as bad.  Well after reading the above post you will not be calling me bad, but more colorful swear words will be coming out of your mouth because your God and everyone else tells you what to do.