pooranmashi

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

And you think calling someone "Nang" not insulting?? ..you make me laugh bro. I just let bachan vidiya tasted his own pinch of salt

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2004/20040725/punjab1.htm

Takht Patna Sahib, Hazoor Sahib to defy Nanakshahi calendar

To celebrate 400th anniversary of Guru Granth Sahib on Sept 15

Varinder Walia

Tribune news service

Amritsar, July 24

The Nanakshahi calendar, having stamp of the Akal Takht and the SGPC today suffered a serious threat from Jathedars of Takht Patna Sahib and Takht Hazoor Sahib who had decided to celebrate 400th anniversary of Guru Granth Sahib’s installation according to traditional calendar.

Talking to TNS here today , Giani Iqbal Singh , Jathedar of Patna Sahib, announced that the 400th anniversary of Guru Granth Sahib would be celebrated on September 15 as per the traditional calendar while the SGPC was celebrating the day on September as per the Nanakshahi calendar.

Notwithstanding the tall claims of the SGPC and Giani Joginder Singh Vedanti, Jathedar Akal Takht, that the Nanakshahi calendar had been accepted by the Panth yet the fact remained that a large section of the Sikh community still celebrated the Sikh Purbs as per the Bikrami calendar.

According to the Nanaksahib calendar all Gurpurbs and other important dates of the Sikh history, were fixed on the basis of 1469 – the year when Guru Nanak was born. The Nanakshahi calendar was tropical, based on “barah maha”, authored by gurus which would be started from the month “chetra” (the first month of the year as per Nanakshahi calendar).

When asked that as to why the Nanakshahi calendar was not being implemented by Takht Patna Sahib and Hazoor Sahib,

Jathedar Iqbal Singh said Jathedar Vedanti had not yet discussed the matter with the Sikh Sangat residing outside Punjab so far . He said both the Takhts would continue to celebrate the Purbs as per Bikrami calendar till the SGPC or the Akal Takht did not come forward to reach consensus and satisfy the local Sangat of Patna and Nanded (Hazoor Sahib). He said Takht Patna Sahib and Takht Hazoor Sahib could not implement the Nanakshahi calendar in toto because of its glaring discrepancies.

Jathedar Iqbal Singh claimed that the Sant Samaj led by Baba Sarbjot Singh Bedi and general secretary Chamkaur Singh had also supported the decision of both Takhts on this issue.

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[jagjit_waheguru]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Pyare jio, I have not come across any evidence of Guru ji being born on pooranmashi. This seems to be a story made up followers of full moon.

Celebrating a full moon is significant in hindu tradition, not sikh religion. As far as Gurbani is concerned a good day or auspicious day is when you remember Naam, a bad day is when you dont.

Pooranmashi was used by gursikhs for its light benefits, not anything else. For example sants celebrate it. The Akal Thakt maryada is against this. Some sants quote Baba Attar Singh ji celebrating it. This is untrue. Baba Attar singh ji Mastuanewale was a lover of bani. He held a rainsbhai keertan every month. This was held on pooranmashi purely due to their being more light, and easier for sangat to come and do seva. Nowadays sant followers have stopped the rainsbhais, and many are very anti them. However they have attached to the pooranmashi. This is indictive of our decline from Gurbani abyass to general ritualism and superstition. Another example of this is joths. They were used for light at night during akhand paths, but nowadays some people are superstitious ab

out them.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Can you prove sant baba attar singh ji maustanaye waley didn't beleive in Bikrami Calendar by providing sources like (jevan sakhis and book written by other gursikhs of him).

If you can't then please don't misguide the sangat by spreading false-information.

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Pyare jio, please do not accuse me of spreading mis-information. What I have written is from personal knowledge from dialogue with Gursikhs of baba jis time, from my association with baru sahib projects. Also Baba jis biography books will mention his love for keertan and regularly monthly rainsbhais. baba ji was involved in the Gurdwara Sudar Lehar with Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh, Baba Vaskha Singh and others. There was no real issue of calenders then, it was more about removing corrupt masands and idol worship. Only yourself has brought the bikrami calender into this. I have not mentioned it. The question was on pooranmashi. I stand by what is clear and Gurmat. It is a non sikh superstition. It has no sipirtual significance other than the moon reflecting the sun.

I stated earlier what is clear in Gurbani. An auspicious day is the day when we remember Naam, a non auspicious day is the day when we don`t.

There is nothing talibanistic about this. Gurbani is clear. Please do not make false assumptions about us. Gurbani is logical and simple, it is not dogmatic, ritualistic or superstitious.

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Akaal Purakh Di Fauj]

I think he was joking - and why cudnt you forgive him - instead of - an eye for an eye :T:

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

Check out where portguese White convert Sikh ripped soo called Nanaksahi followers into peices...shame shame shame

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...naksahi&start=0

:wub: ))))

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

jagjit singh,

if you see ammmarow singh post you will know Sikhs sampardha who held up congreation on pooran mashi do kirtan of dhur ki bani and pattt and no other.

Sant baba attar singh ji mustanayewaley has Nirmaley Links. So as a Nirmala, there is no way Baba ji was against Bikrami Calender.

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

The question was on pooranmashi

Yes question was on pooranmashi not Bikrami Calendar.

But again if you beleive in Bikrami Calendar - you beleive in Pooranmashi. Because pooranmaschi is one of full moon day every month mention in Bikrami Calendar as well.

[Amaraow Singh]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

i see things have stiill not changed, oh well.

The Birthday of Guru Nanak Sahib falls on Kartik Puranmashi i.e. full moon day of the month Kartik

source: http://www.sgpc.net/gurus/gurunanak.asp

[Guest Kamar Kasa]

Here is video on Nanaksahi by Damdami Taksal:

http://www.gursikhijeevan.com/media/video/...haiCalander.wmv

Enjoy :TH:

[Amaraow Singh]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

Date of Avtar 1526 Bikrami, Katak Pooranmashi (approximately 4am), Wednesday 29th November, 1469 AD

source: http://www.damdamitaksal.com/his_gurus_1.htm

Gurfateh