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Guest Kamar Kasa

Thanks for Amarrow Singh for eye opening Post.

I seriously hope. Sikhs accepts other sampardha beleifs with open arms rather being so parnoid calling everything Hindu Ritualistic, Hindu Rituals just because it doesn't fit into their own taste of Sikhi.

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actualyy..... our gurus gave us instructions for each month... i think this goes along with pooran mashi....

Here is the Baaraa Maahaa (12 months) translations...........

Baarah Maahaa

baarah maahaa maaNjh mehlaa 5 ghar 4

Baarah Maahaa ~ The Twelve Months: Maajh, Fifth Mehl, Fourth House

ik-oNkaar satgur parsaad.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru

kirat karam kay veechhurhay kar kirpaa maylhu raam.

By the actions we have committed, we are separated from You. Please show Your Mercy, and unite us with Yourself, Lord.

chaar kunt dah dis bharamay thak aa-ay parabh kee saam.

We have grown weary of wandering to the four corners of the earth and in the ten directions. We have come to Your Sanctuary, God.

Dhayn duDhai tay baahree kitai na aavai kaam.

Without milk, a cow serves no purpose

jal bin saakh kumlaavatee upjahi naahee daam.

Without water, the crop withers, and it will not bring a good price.

har naah na milee-ai saajnai kat paa-ee-ai bisraam.

If we do not meet the Lord, our Friend, how can we find our place of rest?

jit ghar har kant na pargata-ee bhath nagar say garaam.

Those homes, those hearts, in which the Husband Lord is not manifest-those towns and villages are like burning furnaces.

sarab seegaar tambol ras san dayhee sabh khaam.

All decorations, the chewing of betel to sweeten the breath, and the body itself, are all useless and vain.

parabh su-aamee kant vihoonee-aa meet sajan sabh jaam.

Without God, our Husband, our Lord and Master, all friends and companions are like the Messenger of Death.

naanak kee banantee-aa

kar kirpaa deejai naam.

This is Nanak's prayer: "Please show Your Mercy, and bestow Your Name.

har maylhu su-aamee sang parabh jis kaa nihchal Dhaam.

O my Lord and Master, please unite me with Yourself, O God, in the Eternal Mansion of Your Presence

Baarah Maahaa :Chayt

chayt govind araaDhee-ai hovai anand ghanaa.

In the month of Chayt, by meditating on the Lord of the Universe, a deep and profound joy arises.

sant janaa mil paa-ee-ai rasnaa naam bhanaa.

Meeting with the humble Saints, the Lord is found, as we chant His Name with our tongues.

jin paa-i-aa parabh aapnaa aa-ay tiseh ganaa.

Those who have found God-blessed is their coming into this world

ik khin tis bin jeevnaa birthaa janam janaa.

Those who live without Him, for even an instant-their lives are rendered useless.

jal thal mahee-al poori-aa ravi-aa vich vanaa.

The Lord is totally pervading the water, the land, and all space. He is contained in the forests as well.

so parabh chit na aavee kit-rhaa dukh ganaa.

Those who do not remember God-how much pain must they suffer!

jinee raavi-aa so parabhoo tinnaa bhaag manaa.

Those who dwell upon their God have great good fortune

har darsan kaN-u man lochdaa naanak pi-aas manaa.

My mind yearns for the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan. O Nanak, my mind is so thirsty!

chayt milaa-ay so parabhoo tis kai paa-ay lagaa.

I touch the feet of one who unites me with God in the month of Chayt

Baarah Maahaa :Vaisaakh

vaisaakh Dheeran ki-o vaadhee-aa jinaa paraym bichhohu.

In the month of Vaisaakh, how can the bride be patient? She is separated from her Beloved

har saajan purakh visaar kai lagee maa-i-aa Dhohu.

She has forgotten the Lord, her Life-companion, her Master; she has become attached to Maya, the deceitful one

putar kaltar na sang Dhanaa har avinaasee oh.

Neither son, nor spouse, nor wealth shall go along with you-only the Ete

rnal Lord

palach palach saglee mu-ee jhoothai DhanDhai moh.

Entangled and enmeshed in the love of false occupations, the whole world is perishing.

ikas har kay naam bin agai la-ee-ah khohi.

Without the Naam, the Name of the One Lord, they lose their lives in the hereafter

da-yu visaar viguchnaa parabh bin avar na ko-ay.

Forgetting the Merciful Lord, they are ruined. Without God, there is no other at all.

pareetam charnee jo lagay tin kee nirmal so-ay.

Pure is the reputation of those who are attached to the Feet of the Beloved Lord.

naanak kee parabh bayntee parabh milhu paraapat ho-ay.

Nanak makes this prayer to God: "Please, come and unite me with Yourself

vaisaakh suhaavaa taaN lagai jaa sant bhaytai har so-ay.

The month of Vaisaakh is beautiful and pleasant, when the Saint causes me to meet the Lord

Baarah Maahaa : Jayt'h

har jayth jurhandaa lorhee-ai jis agai sabh nivann.

In the month of Jayt'h, the bride longs to meet with the Lord. All bow in humility before Him.

har sajan daavan lagi-aa kisai na day-ee bann.

One who has grasped the hem of the robe of the Lord, the True Friend-no one can keep him in bondage

maanak motee naam parabh un lagai naahee sann.

God's Name is the Jewel, the Pearl. It cannot be stolen or taken away

rang sabhay naaraa-inai jaytay man bhaavann.

In the Lord are all pleasures which please the mind

jo har lorhay so karay so-ee jee-a karann.

As the Lord wishes, so He acts, and so His creatures act

Ljo parabh keetay aapnay say-ee kahee-ahi Dhan.

They alone are called blessed, whom God has made His Own.

aapan lee-aa jay milai vichhurh ki-o rovann.

If people could meet the Lord by their own efforts, why would they be crying out in the pain of separation?

saaDhoo sang paraapatay naanak rang maanan.

Meeting Him in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, O Nanak, celestial bliss is enjoyed

har ja

yth rangeelaa tis Dhanee jis kai bhaag mathann.

In the month of Jayt'h, the playful Husband Lord meets her, upon whose forehead such good destiny is recorded

Baarah Maahaa :Aasaarh

aasaarh tapandaa tis lagai har naahu na jinna paas.

The month of Aasaarh seems burning hot, to those who are not close to their Husband Lord.

jagjeevan purakh ti-aag kai maanas sandee aas.

They have forsaken God the Primal Being, the Life of the World, and they have come to rely upon mere mortals

duyai bhaa-ay viguchee-ai gal pa-ees jam kee faas.

In the love of duality, the soul-bride is ruined; around her neck she wears the noose of Death.

jayhaa beejai so lunai mathai jo likhi-aas.

As you plant, so shall you harvest; your destiny is recorded on your forehead

rain vihaanee pachhutaanee uth chalee ga-ee niraas.

The life-night passes away, and in the end, one comes to regret and repent, and then depart with no hope at all

jin kou saaDhoo bhaytee-ai so dargeh ho-ay khalaas.

Those who meet with the Holy Saints are liberated in the Court of the Lord.

kar kirpaa parabh aapnee tayray darsan ho-ay pi-aas.

Show Your Mercy to me, O God; I am thirsty for the Blessed Vision of Your Darshan.

parabh tuDh bin doojaa ko nahee naanak kee ardaas.

Without You, God, there is no other at all. This is Nanak's humble prayer

aasaarh suhandaa tis lagai jis man har charan nivaas.

The month of Aasaarh is pleasant, when the Feet of the Lord abide in the mind.

Baarah Maahaa :Saawan

saavan sarsee kaamnee charan kamal si-o pi-aar.

In the month of Saawan, the soul-bride is happy, if she falls in love with the Lotus Feet of the Lord

man tan rataa sach rang iko naam aDhaar.

Her mind and body are imbued with the Love of the True One; His Name is her only Support.

bikhi-aa rang koorhaavi-aa disan sabhay chhaar.

The pleasures of corruption are false. All that is seen shall turn to ashes.

har amrit boon

d suhaavanee mil saaDhoo peevanhaar.

The drops of the Lord's Nectar are so beautiful! Meeting the Holy Saint, we drink these in.

van tin parabh sang ma-oli-aa samrath purakh apaar.

The forests and the meadows are rejuvenated and refreshed with the Love of God, the All-powerful, Infinite Primal Being.

har milnai no man lochdaa karam milaavanhaar.

My mind yearns to meet the Lord. If only He would show His Mercy, and unite me with Himself!

jinee sakhee-ay parabh paa-i-aa haN-u tin kai sad balihaar.

Those brides who have obtained God-I am forever a sacrifice to them.

naanak har jee ma-i-aa kar sabad savaaranhaar.

O Nanak, when the Dear Lord shows kindness, He adorns His bride with the Word of His Shabad.

saavan tinaa suhaaganee jin raam naam ur haar.

Saawan is delightful for those happy soul-brides whose hearts are adorned with the Necklace of the Lord's Name.

Baarah Maahaa :Bhaadon

bhaadu-ay bharam bhulaanee-aa doojai lagaa hayt.

In the month of Bhaadon, she is deluded by doubt, because of her attachment to duality.

lakh seegaar banaa-i-aa kaaraj naahee kayt.

She y wear thousands of ornaments, but they are of no use at all

jit din dayh binsasee <admin-profanity filter activated> vaylai kahsan parayt.

On that day when the body perishes-at that time, she becomes a ghost.

pakarh chalaa-in doot jam kisai na daynee bhayt.

The Messenger of Death seizes and holds her, and does not tell anyone his secret.

chhad kharhotay khinai maahi jin si-o lagaa hayt.

And her loved ones-in an instant, they move on, leaving her all alone.

hath marorhai tan kapay si-aahhu ho-aa sayt.

She wrings her hands, her body writhes in pain, and she turns from black to white.

jayhaa beejai so lunai karmaa sand-rhaa khayt.

As she has planted, so does she harvest; such is the field of karma.

naanak parabh sarnaagatee charan bohith parabh dayt.

Nanak seeks God's Sanc

tuary; God has given him the Boat of His Feet.

say bhaadu-ay narak na paa-ee-ah gur rakhan vaalaa hayt.

Those who love the Guru, the Protector and Savior, in Bhaadon, shall not be thrown down into hell

Baarah Maahaa: Assu

asun paraym umaahrhaa ki-o milee-ai har jaa-ay.

In the month of Assu, my love for the Lord overwhelms me. How can I go and meet the Lord?

man tan pi-aas darsan ghanee ko-ee aan milaavai maa-ay.

My mind and body are so thirsty for the Blessed Vision of His Darshan. Won't someone please come and lead me to him, O my mother.

sant sahaa-ee paraym kay ha-o tin kai laagaa paa-ay.

The Saints are the helpers of the Lord's lovers; I fall and touch their feet.

vin parabh ki-o sukh paa-ee-ai doojee naahee jaa-ay.

Without God, how can I find peace? There is nowhere else to go.

jinHee chaakhi-aa paraym ras say taripat rahay aaghaa-ay.

Those who have tasted the sublime essence of His Love, remain satisfied and fulfilled.

aap ti-aag bintee karahi layho parabhoo larh laa-ay.

They renounce their selfishness and conceit, and they pray, "God, please attach me to the hem of Your robe."

jo har kant milaa-ee-aa se vichhurh kateh na jaa-ay.

Those whom the Husband Lord has united with Himself, shall not be separated from Him again.

parabh vin doojaa ko nahee naanak har sarnaa-ay.

Without God, there is no other at all. Nanak has entered the Sanctuary of the Lord.

asoo sukhee vasandee-aa jinaa ma-i-aa har raa-ay.

In Assu, the Lord, the Sovereign King, has granted His Mercy, and they dwell in peace

Baarah Maahaa : Katak

katik karam kamaavnay dos na kaahoo jog.

In the month of Katak, do good deeds. Do not try to blame anyone else

parmaysar tay bhuli-aaN vi-aapan sabhay rog.

Forgetting the Transcendent Lord, all sorts of illnesses are contracted.

vaimukh ho-ay raam tay lagan janam vijog.

Those who turn their backs on the Lord shall be separated from Him a

nd consigned to reincarnation, over and over again

khin meh ka-urhay ho-ay ga-ay jit-rhay maa-i-aa bhog.

In an instant, all of Maya's sensual pleasures turn bitter.

vich na ko-ee kar sakai kis thai roveh roj.

No one can then serve as your intermediary. Unto whom can we turn and cry?

keetaa kichhoo na hova-ee likhi-aa Dhur sanjog.

By one's own actions, nothing can be done; destiny was pre-determined from the very beginning.

vadbhaagee mayraa parabh milai taaN utreh sabh bi-og.

By great good fortune, I meet my God, and then all pain of separation departs.

naanak ka-o parabh raakh layhi mayray saahib bandee moch.

Please protect Nanak, God; O my Lord and Master, please release me from bondage.

katik hovai saaDhsang binsahi sabhay soch.

In Katak, in the Company of the Holy, all anxiety vanishes.

Baarah Maahaa : Maghar

manghir maahi sohandee-aa har pir sang baith-rhee-aah.

In the month of Maghar, those who sit with their Beloved Husband Lord are beautiful.

tin kee sobhaa ki-aa ganee je saahib maylrhee-aah.

How can their glory be measured? Their Lord and Master blends them with Himself.

tan man ma-oli-aa raam si-o sang saaDh sahaylrhee-aah.

Their bodies and minds blossom forth in the Lord; they have the companionship of the Holy Saints

saaDh janaa tay baahree say rahan ikaylarhee-aah.

Those who lack the Company of the Holy, remain all alone.

tin dukh na kabhoo utrai say jam kai vas parhee-aah.

Their pain never departs, and they fall into the grip of the Messenger of Death.

jinee raavi-aa parabh aapnaa say disan nit kharhee-aah.

Those who have ravished and enjoyed their God, are seen to be continually exalted and uplifted.

ratan javayhar laal har kanth tinaa jarhee-aah.

They wear the Necklace of the jewels, emeralds and rubies of the Lord's Name.

naanak baaNchhai Dhoorh tin parabh sarnee dar parhee-aah.

Nanak seeks the dust of the feet of t

hose who take to the Sanctuary of the Lord's Door.

manghir parabh aaraaDhanaa bahurh na janamrhee-aah.

Those who worship and adore God in Maghar, do not suffer the cycle of reincarnation ever again

Baarah Maahaa : Poh

pokh tukhaar na vi-aapa-ee kanth mili-aa har naahu.

In the month of Poh, the cold does not touch those, whom the Husband Lord hugs close in His Embrace

man bayDhi-aa charnaarbind darsan lagrhaa saahu.

Their minds are transfixed by His Lotus Feet. They are attached to the Blessed Vision of the Lord's Darshan.

ot govind gopaal raa-ay sayvaa su-aamee laahu.

Seek the Protection of the Lord of the Universe; His service is truly profitable.

bikhi-aa pohi na sak-ee mil saaDhoo gun gaahu.

Corruption shall not touch you, when you join the Holy Saints and sing the Lord's Praises

jah tay upjee tah milee sachee pareet samaahu.

From where it originated, there the soul is blended again. It is absorbed in the Love of the True Lord.

kar geh leenee paarbarahm bahurh na vichhurhi-aahu.

When the Supreme Lord God grasps someone's hand, he shall never again suffer separation from Him

baar jaa-o lakh bayree-aa har sajan agam agaahu.

I am a sacrifice, 100,000 times, to the Lord, my Friend, the Unapproachable and Unfathomable

saram pa-ee naaraa-inai naanak dar pa-ee-aahu.

Please preserve my honor, Lord; Nanak begs at Your Door

pokh sohandaa sarab sukh jis bakhsay vayparvaahu.

Poh is beautiful, and all comforts come to that one, whom the Carefree Lord has forgiven

Baarah Maahaa :Maagh

maagh majan sang saaDhoo-aa Dhoorhee kar isnaan.

In the month of Maagh, let your cleansing bath be the dust of the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.

har kaa naam Dhi-aa-ay sun sabhnaa no kar daan.

Meditate and listen to the Name of the Lord, and give it to everyone.

janam karam mal utrai man tay jaa-ay gumaan.

In this way, the filth of lifetimes of karma shall b

e removed, and egotistical pride shall vanish from your mind.

kaam karoDh na mohee-ai binsai lobh su-aan.

Sexual desire and anger shall not seduce you, and the dog of greed shall depart.

sachai maarag chaldi-aa ustat karay jahaan.

Those who walk on the Path of Truth shall be praised throughout the world.

athsath tirath sagal punn jee-a da-i-aa parvaan.

Be kind to all beings-this is more meritorious than bathing at the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage and the giving of charity.

jis no dayvai da-i-aa kar so-ee purakh sujaan.

That person, upon whom the Lord bestows His Mercy, is a wise person.

jinaa mili-aa parabh aapnaa naanak tin kurbaan.

Nanak is a sacrifice to those who have merged with God.

maagh suchay say kaaNdhee-ah jin pooraa gur miharvaan.

In Maagh, they alone are known as true, unto whom the Perfect Guru is Merciful.

Baarah Maahaa :Phalgun

fulgun anand upaarjanaa har sajan pargatay aa-ay.

In the month of Phalgun, bliss comes to those, unto whom the Lord, the Friend, has been revealed.

sant sahaa-ee raam kay kar kirpaa dee-aa milaa-ay.

The Saints, the Lord's helpers, in their mercy, have united me with Him.

sayj suhaavee sarab sukh hun dukhaa naahee jaa-ay.

My bed is beautiful, and I have all comforts. I feel no sadness at all.

ichh punee vadbhaagnee // paa-i-aa har raa-ay.

My desires have been fulfilled-by great good fortune, I have obtained the Sovereign Lord as my Husband.

mil sahee-aa mangal gaavhee geet govind alaa-ay.

Join with me, my sisters, and sing the songs of rejoicing and the Hymns of the Lord of the Universe

har jayhaa avar na dis-ee ko-ee doojaa lavai na laa-ay.

There is no other like the Lord-there is no equal to Him.

halat palat savaari-on nihchal ditee-an jaa-ay.

He embellishes this world and the world hereafter, and He gives us our permanent home there.

sansaar saagar tay rakhi-an bahurh na janmai Dhaa-ay.

>He rescues us from the world-ocean; never again do we have to run the cycle of reincarnation.

jihvaa ayk anayk gun taray naanak charnee paa-ay.

I have only one tongue, but Your Glorious Virtues are beyond counting. Nanak is saved, falling at Your Feet.

fulgun nit salaahee-ai jis no til na tamaa-ay.

In Phalgun, praise Him continually; He has not even an iota of greed

Baarah Maahaa

jin jin naam Dhi-aa-i-aa tin kay kaaj saray.

Those who meditate on the Naam, the Name of the Lord-their affairs are all resolved

har gur pooraa aaraaDhi-aa dargeh sach kharay.

Those who meditate on the Perfect Guru, the Lord-Incarnate-they are judged true in the Court of the Lord.

sarab sukhaa niDh charan har bha-ojal bikham taray.

The Lord's Feet are the Treasure of all peace and comfort for them; they cross over the terrifying and treacherous world-ocean.

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kamar kasa - you are sounding like a UK nang on steroids! :wub:

The questions has nothing to do with bikrami, samapaday, or how you got upset with this forum with only 8 posts. Hardly a measured opinion on how biased this forum is. :T:

Clearly the only thing said so far is that Pooranmashi is a hindu ritual. Thats it. rolleyes.gif

Bikrami is a calender not a ritual. Clearly, no one called it a ritual. But your point on who follows Nanakshihi and bikrami. This was demonstrated very clearly this year on Guru Granth Sahib Gurpurb celebrations. If you saw it live on Alpha TV you will see hundreds of thousands of sangat celebrated it on nanakshahi date. Darbar sahib was packed with keertan darbaars, conferences.

Only a handful of sants tried to celebrate it on bikrami day. No mainstream sangat at all. This whole controversy is only supported by a handful of sant supporters and some DT. They have no real support of the main sangat.

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All this is point less, waste of time.

The only true way to keep Guru Jee happy is

Take Amrit

Naam Jap

listen & read Paath

keep Sangat of Gursikhs

Thats the way to remember Guru jee not to fight over a Moon or if Guru jee was born on this day or that day. We should try our best to go Gurdwara every day. As this world is Fake. Every thing is Fake. The only Truth is Naam.

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All this is point less, waste of time.

The only true way to keep Guru Jee happy is

Take Amrit

Naam Jap

listen & read Paath

keep Sangat of Gursikhs

Thats the way to remember Guru jee not to fight over a Moon or if Guru jee was born on this day or that day. We should try our best to go Gurdwara every day. As this world is Fake. Every thing is Fake. The only Truth is Naam.

thats it!

Listen to gurbani and Ucharn Gurbani! this has been talked over enough.

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kamar kasa - you are sounding like a UK nang on steroids! 
LOL.gif :wub:

"If anyone challenges your beleif is automatically nang aye" .

Thats a true nature of fanatics. Why don't you move to afghanistan and join your taliban freinds. LOL.gifLOL.gif

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"If anyone challenges your beleif is automatically nang aye" .

Thats a true nature of fanatics. Why don't you move to afghanistan and join your taliban freinds.

Now I understand why you got removed last time. That remark of yours is soooooooo insultive - everything the taleban stood for is against the basic principles of humanity - but I dont care Im not going to insult you back - no need to stoop to your level. And before you said this board was unprofessional and that you were going to a different board - what happened??? Ppl say they going to leave but they come back - becoz this is the best sikh forum!

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was barah maha written by sachay patshah guru arjun dev ji according to the nanakshahi calendar??????

if so, should we only read half of barah maha at sagrand.....or should we just cut and paste it to fit nanakshahi :e:

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