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[Guest worried00]

This girl wrote a article about men and the Khalistan stuff. Shes saying that women have no chance and shes just slagging off everything. Ive added the link to her words http://www.sikh24.com/2018/06/29/op-ed-misogyny-in-the-khalistan-movement-view-of-a-kaur/#.WzZN2BJKjGI

[S1ngh]

 

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However, what I do not support is the toxic, overbearing, testosterone-fuelled, egocentric, masochistic voices that think.......

I stopped ready article after the above line.

Ultra-liberalism. They wants everything easy on the plate without working hard to achieve them. 

[Guest limbo_hud]

13 hours ago, S1ngh said:

 

I stopped ready article after the above line.

Ultra-liberalism. They wants everything easy on the plate without working hard to achieve them. 

come on man, grow up.

[MisterrSingh]

In my darkest moments I allow myself to entertain the notion that perhaps Muslims have the right idea when it comes to women...

[S1ngh]

49 minutes ago, Guest limbo_hud said:

come on man, grow up.

Veeray, what part of my message you didn’t agree with. 

It is also a biased article and I can see the  message of one jathabandi vs. another.  That’s the hidden point that very few can see it. 

[Singh559]

I don't agree with the hyper liberalism nonsense, but she does have a point about some men being bullies at the forefront of Sikh politics.

We need practical people. The people she's indirecting are also mixed in anti-colonial, anti-white, anti-west and Islamic interest co-opting of everything.

Don't agree with her liberal jargon, but the main point I took away from that is they are fed up with the few people who tend to bully anyone and discourage Sikh youth from engaging in Panthic issues when they see the select few vocal people are very unreasonable.

 

There are a lot of gupt Singhs who are slowly starting to realize those who speak the most and tend to claim to be representing Sikhs are doing more harm than good. It would be best to sideline all these people who prioritize their own agenda over Panthic issues.

[Guest Kaur_the_Great]

4 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

In my darkest moments I allow myself to entertain the notion that perhaps Muslims have the right idea when it comes to women...

You need a double whisky followed by kuttappa from bibbiyaan for offending them. 

[MisterrSingh]

10 hours ago, Singh559 said:

I don't agree with the hyper liberalism nonsense, but she does have a point about some men being bullies at the forefront of Sikh politics.

In all seriousness, the headline is quite misleading, but the content of the article itself contains many valid arguments. 

Unfortunately for the people such as the author of the article, countries and ethno-states are fought and won and founded by the very people she derides, even moreso when there are no generous donors and well-wishers in the corner of those undergoing the struggle. If she wants representation, gift her an AK and send her and her sisters out into the battle.

What annoys me with arguments such as these is how the points being made by our own are predicated on the language of Jewish socio-political jargon that, in its essence, is not applicable to us as Sikhs. Sikhi is beyond feminism; beyond blind and indiscriminate social justice, and generally beyond all those ideals. Sikhi IS all those things BUT so much more. This finer than the surface-of-the-edge-of-a-blade difference is where our ideology exists, but it perplexes me when I see Sikhs fusing their own western, liberal beliefs into the actual reality of what's categorically established as our teachings due to the reality of what we follow not exactly being the easiest and clearly communicable way of existing. It's hard; I'm not suggesting following Sikhi is easy, but you don't bend the path to your own steps; you alter your steps to accommodate the path. And unfortunately I'm not seeing evidence of that in our emergent intellectual circles. Why? Because the alternative is much easier. Again, our inferiority complexes and lack of foresight, perspective, and ability to see into the future is evident in our words and our actions.

The insidious and delusional "love always finds a way" approach to life that's afflicted much of the western and western-influenced consciousness is not applicable to us. Our theological history provides innumerable examples of where tough, harsh, and violent decisions were taken for ultimate good to eventually flourish. It's these aspects of Sikh teachings that are being sidelined for the wholly pacifist, turn-the-other-cheek, Christian / Church of England Protestantism on which contemporary liberalism has its roots.

People such as the author of this piece have been conditioned into believing and thinking the "Hollywood-ised" version of life is one where good things happen to good people, and as long as one plays by the rules all ends well. If that brand of thinking infiltrates a political movement that possesses eventual separatist aims, then you may as well just pack up and go home.

[Ranjeet01]

It's the testosterone driven egotistical men that get things done. 

They come out because no body else does.

Going out there and taking risks when no body else does is what typically male ego testerone driven do.

You can't just wait on the sidelines for the men to do something and then jump on the bandwagon when momentum builds and complain how men dominate.

If these type of bibian  want feminine sissy boys they would be complaining about how come our men don't have a backbone. 

[MisterrSingh]

59 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

It's the testosterone driven egotistical men that get things done. 

They come out because no body else does.

Going out there and taking risks when no body else does is what typically male ego testerone driven do.

You can't just wait on the sidelines for the men to do something and then jump on the bandwagon when momentum builds and complain how men dominate.

If these type of bibian  want feminine sissy boys they would be complaining about how come our men don't have a backbone. 

The delusion under which these people are labouring will be cruelly and ruthlessly dispelled when the other side decides to show their hand.