Converting North India

[S4NGH]

4 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

ehhhhhhhhhhhhh? 

As the gujuratis say.

You want Sikhs to become like muslims and christians and force poor Hindus to become Sikhs in return for free food or other benefits. Tenu akal ni hegi? Besharam ji ah. 

It takes a special kind of stupid to come up with something so unintelligible.

The Guru themself sent out preachers, both men and women, to spread Sikhi all over the indian subcontinent; to enlighten the masses. 

[puzzled]

It wouldn't be hard to do that tbh, but our leaders are fat pigs and keep all the money for themselves. It would be great to have some tough Rajasthanis and Haryanvis as Sikhs. Sikhi would be easy to spread as most Indians already believe in karma, reincarnation, god being everywhere, people in india are very familiar with these things. All we need to do is send out people to do parchar and spread awareness  but our leaders are too corrupt, they just dont give a <banned word filter activated> about sikhi or sikhs 

[TejS]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

It wouldn't be hard to do that tbh, but our leaders are fat pigs and keep all the money for themselves. It would be great to have some tough Rajasthanis and Haryanvis as Sikhs. Sikhi would be easy to spread as most Indians already believe in karma, reincarnation, god being everywhere, people in india are very familiar with these things. All we need to do is send out people to do parchar and spread awareness  but our leaders are too corrupt, they just dont give a <banned word filter activated> about sikhi or sikhs 

I personally feel that it would be quite easy to convert Haryanvi Jats. They are after all outcastes in the Hindu caste system, and they can feel at home with many of their ethnic counterparts being Sikh.

The Arya Samaj used a similar tactic to convert them to their sect. They were not given the Kshatriya status they hoped to be given by other Hindu denominations, however the Arya Samaj gave them what they desired. We need to do something similar, not only with Haryanvi Jats but with all downtrodden communities in India. Give them what they fervently desire: a status within society. Sikhi provides that.

[puzzled]

27 minutes ago, TejS said:

I personally feel that it would be quite easy to convert Haryanvi Jats. They are after all outcastes in the Hindu caste system, and they can feel at home with many of their ethnic counterparts being Sikh.

The Arya Samaj used a similar tactic to convert them to their sect. They were not given the Kshatriya status they hoped to be given by other Hindu denominations, however the Arya Samaj gave them what they desired. We need to do something similar, not only with Haryanvi Jats but with all downtrodden communities in India. Give them what they fervently desire: a status within society. Sikhi provides that.

Yeah i dont think it would be too hard especially because they are not that different to us culturally same with places like Ganga-nagar in Rajasthan which has punjabi influence  

[puzzled]

Weren't the Singhs who killed massa rangar Rajasthani Singhs?  Do Rajasthani Sikhs still exist today? not the Punjabis that have moved there but actual Rajasthani Sikhs? 

[TejS]

1 hour ago, puzzled said:

Weren't the Singhs who killed massa rangar Rajasthani Singhs?  Do Rajasthani Sikhs still exist today? not the Punjabis that have moved there but actual Rajasthani Sikhs? 

There are Rajput Sikhs, I'm friends with one. Not sure about other Rajasthani Sikhs. However its imperative that Sikhism spreads out in the Northwestern corridor of India, be it Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Rajasthan, Kashmir and Gujarat. It allows for a concentrated area of Sikhs rather than sparsely populated which makes them more vulnerable, and unable to have a support system. It will also then be easier to spread it from there on to other regions. 

[jkvlondon]

2 hours ago, puzzled said:

It wouldn't be hard to do that tbh, but our leaders are fat pigs and keep all the money for themselves. It would be great to have some tough Rajasthanis and Haryanvis as Sikhs. Sikhi would be easy to spread as most Indians already believe in karma, reincarnation, god being everywhere, people in india are very familiar with these things. All we need to do is send out people to do parchar and spread awareness  but our leaders are too corrupt, they just dont give a <banned word filter activated> about sikhi or sikhs 

it has to be grass roots not from on high , Guru Sahiban made manjis and pirdes these are grass roots face to face  parchar GURU JI'S model is perfect ...not these infiltrated ghadars fake printed history peddling lies and weaknesses...

[jkvlondon]

1 hour ago, TejS said:

There are Rajput Sikhs, I'm friends with one. Not sure about other Rajasthani Sikhs. However its imperative that Sikhism spreads out in the Northwestern corridor of India, be it Punjab, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Rajasthan, Kashmir and Gujarat. It allows for a concentrated area of Sikhs rather than sparsely populated which makes them more vulnerable, and unable to have a support system. It will also then be easier to spread it from there on to other regions. 

only problem with rajput sikhs is they hold being rajput higher than Khalsa...remember they are the ones who requested seperate bata for amrit...

[S4NGH]

36 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Weren't the Singhs who killed massa rangar Rajasthani Singhs?  Do Rajasthani Sikhs still exist today? not the Punjabis that have moved there but actual Rajasthani Sikhs? 

Hanji, they were from Bikaner.

[Big_Tera]

9 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

I don't give two hoots about what gujjus say

sikhs have a divine mandate to spread gurbani's message , understanding this people will automatically reject oppressive dictats of other faiths

 

Okay I see you point. Converting is allowed in Sikhism. So why do we never do it. I also hear so many who are against converting and swear by it. 

I really should stop with my guji phrazes. 

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh