What are the biggest issues in Sikhi today?

[mahandulai]

3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yes that's a new generation thing. It's funny because I've heard the Canadian apnay have retained their language to a high extent. Bengalis all seem to know their language pretty well. 

this is true @jkvlondon but coconutting isn't really that bad? Are you saying, that the goreh way of doing things is not as spiritual?

[jkvlondon]

1 minute ago, mahandulai said:

the thing is, if it was so clear, and important, people would gravitate towards it ........?

it is important but their parents sell them short of their inheirtance

 

[mahandulai]

6 minutes ago, jkvlondon said:

it is important but their parents sell them short of their inheirtance

 

and who of them?

[jkvlondon]

11 minutes ago, mahandulai said:

this is true @jkvlondon but coconutting isn't really that bad? Are you saying, that the goreh way of doing things is not as spiritual?

given that the current gora way is to denigrate any form of faith, normative hetrosexual behaviour, marriage/commitment  then yes it is not spiritual  but cultural marxism where you end up with people of colour self-loathing  to such an extent that they look in the mirror and deny reality but claim and think they are white:

 

 

I've experienced it in my family members

[mahandulai]

1 hour ago, jkvlondon said:

given that the current gora way is to denigrate any form of faith, normative hetrosexual behaviour, marriage/commitment  then yes it is not spiritual  but cultural marxism where you end up with people of colour self-loathing  to such an extent that they look in the mirror and deny reality but claim and think they are white:

 

 

I've experienced it in my family members

I don't think its fair to say this hetero behaviour is from goreh

[namespace]

7 hours ago, mahandulai said:

I would say @dallysingh101 @namespace

 

Have you taken to call people out now?  Why would you make this personal?

[puzzled]

10 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

You can tell muslay from the way they try and speak Panjabi too. It's usually way off from how Sikhs speak it. Yes, some can speak Panjabi a little bit like us, but how they are taught to give proper Arabic pronunciation to certain words from that quarter gives them away. 

I honestly can't help but think that an apna that can't tell a sullah from a Sikh is probably 'special needs' if you know what I mean. 

It's not always easy to tell the difference tbh. When they speak then you can obviously tell the difference. But by looking it can be hard sometimes. 

I hated being mistaken for a paki all the time, in fact that was the main reason why I stopped cutting my hair. It seriously really started p!ssing me off. 

[puzzled]

I think all religious communities are facing similar chalanges in the west. In fact it's considered more normal to be atheist than religious these days 

[dallysingh101]

7 hours ago, mahandulai said:

this is true @jkvlondon but coconutting isn't really that bad? Are you saying, that the goreh way of doing things is not as spiritual?

Are you missing my point? There is nothing wrong with retaining your own heritage and making serious endeavours to do this. Preservation of what is good within your own heritage is not mutually exclusive to learning things from other cultures. Like I like trying to develop my Gurmukhi skills, but I also like developing my English language skills because it helps me access other forms of information that can be useful - like reading Charles Dickens. 

When you look at DG, it also demonstrates a clear intention to retain ones faith, whilst also broadening intellectual horizons by looking at other literature/texts/languages. 

I would say that everyday gora culture, as I've experienced it in ENgland, doesn't place much value on spiritual matters. The culture is more tied to hedonistic beliefs, which themselves are often tied to consumerism - which itself is closely tied to the economic strategies being employed here. I think underlying these things is also Darwinian theories of survival of the fittest. 

[dallysingh101]

12 minutes ago, puzzled said:

I think all religious communities are facing similar chalanges in the west. In fact it's considered more normal to be atheist than religious these days 

I think some communities are dealing with these things better than others myself.