Langar

[jkvlondon]

wiki :

Langar, as an institution, was first started by Baba Farid, a Muslim of the Chishti Sufi order.^[7][8] The institution of the langar was already popular in the 12th and 13th century among Sufis (Muslim mystics) of the Indian subcontinent. The practice grew and is documented in the Jawahir al-Faridi compiled in 1623 CE.^[9] It was later, both the institution and term, adopted by Sikhs.^[10] The langar concept was an innovative charity and symbol of equality adopted by the founder of Sikhism, Guru Nanak around 1500 CE.^[11] According to Arvind-Pal Singh Mandair, a professor of Sikh Studies, community kitchens were already operating in Punjab when Guru Nanak founded Sikhism, and these were run by Muslim Sufi orders and by Hindu Gorakhnath orders.^[12]

Since Baba Farid ji is known to us as a Gurmukh individual so it was NOT a sufi per se but the individual's teachings that started this idea .

Weren't the Gorakhnaths the sidhs that Guru ji spoke to ? 

[mahandulai]

On ‎11‎/‎5‎/‎2018 at 11:09 PM, Big_Tera said:

What are the origins of Langar. I have read that its not something unique to Sikhism. It was first started by sufi muslims and the was later adapted and copied by Sikhs. 

 

this is such a large and by question.

You are asking: who is the first person, who started giving out free food?

Cavemen? People did this anyway with spare spoiled food because they felt guilty, in local shops, thousands of years ago.

But the specific langar you are speaking of, where people sit equally, and langar, where people talk in a Sikh forum, to do parchaar of Sikhi, I believe was a Guru Nanak/ Amar Das Ji.

[puzzled]

13 hours ago, AjeetSinghPunjabi said:

Vedic period ended 2600 yrs ago. The oldest hindu temples in india are 1500

there are cave temples in india dating back to the 2nd century BC. but yeah obviously temple buildings came later 

[puzzled]

“Sharing food is the highest form of Karma.” —Bhagavad Gita

[puzzled]

Its a shame that the brahmins divided society, their scriptures preach the opposite. when were the manusmritis written then? im guessing they came after the gita because the gita preaches the complete opposite.

[Big_Tera]

10 hours ago, mahandulai said:

this is such a large and by question.

You are asking: who is the first person, who started giving out free food?

Cavemen? People did this anyway with spare spoiled food because they felt guilty, in local shops, thousands of years ago.

But the specific langar you are speaking of, where people sit equally, and langar, where people talk in a Sikh forum, to do parchaar of Sikhi, I believe was a Guru Nanak/ Amar Das Ji.

Theres is a big difference between a caveman sharing his loaf of bread or whatever cave men ate. 

Then an organised religion serving food in all of their temples to anyone of any faith for free. 

Yes mandirs do that but not in the sikhs generous way

[Big_Tera]

11 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

wiki :

Langar, as an institution, was first started by Baba Farid, a Muslim of the Chishti Sufi order.^[7][8] The institution of the langar was already popular in the 12th and 13th century among Sufis (Muslim mystics) of the Indian subcontinent. The practice grew and is documented in the Jawahir al-Faridi compiled in 1623 CE.^[9] It was later, both the institution and term, adopted by Sikhs.^[10] The langar concept was an innovative charity and symbol of equality adopted by the founder of Sikhism, Guru Nanak around 1500 CE.^[11] According to Arvind-Pal Singh Mandair, a professor of Sikh Studies, community kitchens were already operating in Punjab when Guru Nanak founded Sikhism, and these were run by Muslim Sufi orders and by Hindu Gorakhnath orders.^[12]

Since Baba Farid ji is known to us as a Gurmukh individual so it was NOT a sufi per se but the individual's teachings that started this idea .

Weren't the Gorakhnaths the sidhs that Guru ji spoke to ? 

Dioaba??

[jkvlondon]

2 minutes ago, Big_Tera said:

Dioaba??

not sure what you meant  but original I had heard that it was similar to qualankas of sufis but I think those are of maas also so would have been abhorrent to nonmuslims ...  The hindu bhandaras  seemed to be on special occasions only not a daily thing  from what I had read in other places . Not doubts Kings in the past may have feed the people to avoid death and rebellion .

[mahandulai]

16 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Theres is a big difference between a caveman sharing his loaf of bread or whatever cave men ate. 

Then an organised religion serving food in all of their temples to anyone of any faith for free. 

Yes mandirs do that but not in the sikhs generous way

no there isn't. it is the same thing.

[mahandulai]

16 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

Theres is a big difference between a caveman sharing his loaf of bread or whatever cave men ate. 

Then an organised religion serving food in all of their temples to anyone of any faith for free. 

Yes mandirs do that but not in the sikhs generous way

physically yes, but the sentiment is the same.

lets not dress it up as some mad spiritual act.

it is just sharing food, with people nearby.