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Who were/are the biggest traitors of Sikhi and Sikhs? betrayal and traitors exist in every religions/cultures history and Sikh ithiaas has seen many traitors 

The first one that comes to my mind is Gangu, in Sikh ithiaas the name Gangu is synonymous with traitor.

name more and briefly say why 

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51 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

The Dogras. Maybe not in a purely Piri sense, but certainly from a Miri perspective the affects of their treachery arguably echo to this very day.

'arguably'......

It's hard to find another example of such a hard fought for and earned sovereignty being betrayed so treacherously. But then again, are the brits any less culpable given their own treacherous nature and willful and opportunistic disregard of treaties they sign?

I posted a link to J. D. Cunningham's book a few weeks ago, and he himself (who fought in the anglo-Sikh wars) was obviously seriously troubled by the actions of his own team in these conflicts, so this isn't a new idea.  

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Yes the Dogras.  Gulab Singh (1792–1857) was the founder of royal Dogra dynasty and first Maharaja of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir, the second largest princely state in British India, which was created after the defeat of the Sikh Empire in the First Anglo-Sikh War. The Treaty of Amritsar (1846) formalised the sale by the British to Gulab Singh for 7,500,000 Nanakshahee Rupees of all the lands in Kashmir that were ceded to them by the Sikhs by the Treaty of Lahore.

Maharaja_Gulab_Singh_of_Jammu_and_Kashmir.jpg

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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

What about Lal and Tej Singh? 

Cunningham seems to have highlighted them as paid traitors too?

 

 

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S. Chattar Singh’s letter explains Raja Lal Singh’s conduct:

An excerpt available from one of the letter written by Sardar Chatter Singh Attariwala reiterates the treacherous conduct of Raja Lal Singh during the First Anglo Sikh War. He writes:

“The Sikhs twice gave battle to the English and the
heat of the fight may be imagined from the fact that thousands
of men have been killed from either side in the action. But Raja Lal Singh, the Commanding Officer, fled away from the field. This caused a great panic among the fighting Khalsa. But still some of them have taken oaths to persevere and are fighting. By the Grace of God, Victory shall soon be ours.” [1]

 

http://www.anglosikhwars.com/letters-of-chattar-singh-attariwala/

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1 minute ago, puzzled said:

yes they were behind it too. weren't they some how related to gulab singh dogra?

Yeah, I think they were at least clan kinfolk.

“Never did a native army having so relatively slight an advantage in numbers fight a battle with the British in which the issue was so doubtful as at Ferozeshah and if the victory was decisive, opinion remains divided as to what the result might have been if the Sikh troops had found Commanders with sufficient capacity to give their qualities full opportunity.”

The Sikhs and The Sikh Wars, p. 42. By General Sir Charles Gough and Arthur D. Innes

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Raja Lal Singh or Lal Singh Dogra was the commander of Sikh Khalsa Army forces during the First Anglo-Sikh War. Along with Tej Singh, Lal Singh betrayed the Sikhs during the course of the war. Lal Singh was regularly supplying information and even receiving instructions from British officers.

British battle records also state that Lal Singh betrayed his Sikh army. During the war, he had continuous correspondence with a British officer, Major Nicholson

 

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