Questions about Sikh religion

[Guest]

Hello

I am new on here. 

I am not sure if people here mind if a Christian joins? I am interested in the Sikh religion. I have heard there are many similarities and i have certain questions. 

Is it ok to ask? I hasten to say i believe in respecting everyone and that dialogue is healthy. People should communicate with each other. 

[Guest]

My first question is: what do you Sikh people think of Christians? I have heard you respect Jesus Christ as a prophet. 

[Jaggaa 98]

Hey, welcome! I'm sure nobody will have a problem with you. Sikhism is a Dharmic faith.

We respect other faiths (which would include Christianity) and their freedom to practice these faiths but do not regard Jesus Christ as a prophet in any special regard. I think there is very little if any mention of him in our scripture or even in any historical literature of ours.

 

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58 minutes ago, Christiangirl52 said:

Hello

I am new on here. 

I am not sure if people here mind if a Christian joins? I am interested in the Sikh religion. I have heard there are many similarities and i have certain questions. 

Is it ok to ask? I hasten to say i believe in respecting everyone and that dialogue is healthy. People should communicate with each other. 

Welcome welcome my Christian friend. No not at all. 

Any faith is free to join and partake in discussion. We do not try and convert people like many other faiths do. 

Ask away. 

Also this is a video explaining some beliefs of our faith that you may find useful. 

 

[Guest]

Thank you. I have sikh friends and we have good discussions. One matter came up recently. About the devil. In our Bible he certainly features, especially in how he tempted Christ during his 40 days fast in the desert. A mature sikh lady i know is adamant that the same thing occurred to one of your Gurus. So do your holy scriptures have reference to this? Do Sikhs believe in Satan orcthe devil?

 

[Guest]

That video was really good thanks. 

I am church of England, baptised and confirmed as an adult. Very deeply a Christian. So i am confident in my faith. I am fascinated at the many similarities in the teaching in the Bible and in Sikhi. I greatly admire Sikhs for your history of great courage especially. 

I am impressed immediately actually at the warm welcome. I know Sikhs never cause trouble in the world. It is a good peaceful religion. I know you however are extremely effective at defending yourselves. If anyone wants to be foolish enough to attack you, they always regret it! 

[Jaggaa 98]

Sikhism is more than just a religion, that is just a part of it - I would say it has been made for the people to protect their freedom and to save them from oppression which I regret to say is usually caused/manipulated by the stakeholders in a religion and those that influence it's direction.

Sikhs do not believe in the abrahamic definition of a devil as an entity but instead refer to the negativity in this world as a collective (what we call 'Kalyug'). We believe everything is the creator including existence and so it wouldn't make sense for there to be a God vs Devil stereotype. 

The Sikhs have been tempted during many strenuous episodes of war/betrayal and a good example of this would be the two younger children of the 10th leader (Guru Gobind Singh Jee) - both under the age of 10 who were offered riches and kingdom-ship however they stood by their faith resulting in their demise (martyrdom) by being bricked alive. Again, the mughals who tempted and then killed them would not so much be referred to as the DEVIL but certainly the evil amongst men.

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16 hours ago, Christiangirl52 said:

Thank you. I have sikh friends and we have good discussions. One matter came up recently. About the devil. In our Bible he certainly features, especially in how he tempted Christ during his 40 days fast in the desert. A mature sikh lady i know is adamant that the same thing occurred to one of your Gurus. So do your holy scriptures have reference to this? Do Sikhs believe in Satan orcthe devil?

 

Jesus can't be compared to the Gurus.  No Guru was tested by the devil.  Some random Sikh woman telling you means nothing.  She has no evidence and is making things up from thin air. The Gurus are God and God cannot be tested by anything.

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17 hours ago, Christiangirl52 said:

My first question is: what do you Sikh people think of Christians? I have heard you respect Jesus Christ as a prophet. 

Sikhi is much more powerful than Christianity because we have 10 Gurus. We have Guru Granth Sahib (actually written by the Gurus themselves). Our scripture is much more vast, has a deeper meaning and can be sung.

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Tempted is the wrong word, it implies that they were thinking of accepting Maya and what it will give. 

Guru Sahib wasn't tempted, he was just shown Maya and not once thought about accepting any of it, just read their Mahaan Paavan Pavitar Bani in Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj.

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55 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Jesus can't be compared to the Gurus. 

Our Gurus are so great that even Jesus appeared to Baba Harnaam Singh ji and told Baba ji how blessed he is to be following Guru Sahib's path.

[Akalifauj 900]

57 minutes ago, RajKaregaKhalsa1 said:

Tempted is the wrong word, it implies that they were thinking of accepting Maya and what it will give. 

Guru Sahib wasn't tempted, he was just shown Maya and not once thought about accepting any of it, just read their Mahaan Paavan Pavitar Bani in Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj.

Why would the Guru accept any of the maya?  Gurbani says the Guru is God.  So do you say, God didn't accept maya.  There was no thought of accept or deny. The Gurus don't have doubt which creates duality.  

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7 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

Why would the Guru accept any of the maya?  Gurbani says the Guru is God.  So do you say, God didn't accept maya.  There was no thought of accept or deny. The Gurus don't have doubt which creates duality.  

Exactly, that's what I'm saying, Maharaj never thought about maya, he was just imbued in Waheguru's love.

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Kalyug is like the manifestation of the dark age that we are currently living in. Kalyug is the age of confusion, falsehood and corruption.   This age manifested itself in a demonic form before guru nanak dev ji, it tried intimidating guru ji and then offered gold? But guru ji being a reflection of God himself didn't fall for any of kalyug tricks.   Kalyug appeared before guru holding his private parts, when guru ji questioned the position of his hands, kalyug replied saying that this is his age and in his age he will lead people blind with lust and lead them astray with lust. 

Kalyug at the end bowed down before guru ji and admitted defeat 

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We believe that we live in the age of kalyug, in this age falsehood, corruption and confusion reign supreme. People in this age are tempted and led astray.

It's similar to what you guys believe satan does,  but we don't personify it