Jump to content

Surrey spinner Amar Virdi on the brink of becoming third Sikh to represent England


Recommended Posts

20 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

In England spinners are not guaranteed a spot in the team, the conditions are more suited to fast bowlers, especially those who can swing the ball.

Cricket is already considered quite unathletic to most sports and the fact that not many Indians or Sikhs have not done well in fast bowling just makes us look weak.

there r so many UK born pakistanI kids in county cricket but just couple of Sikhs. why so ?

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Replies 39
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

Yes, and the pakistanis are usually of lower class economically, so more inclined to push their kids to cricket .   Sikhs in England more likely in future to emerge from private school system a

Only slightly. Football is king, can be played in all weather conditions, is a simple game and much more 'trendy' Cricket is even behind rugby in popularity in the upper-middle class typess

Allah will punish them! sorry for my bad jokes!

8 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

there r so many UK born pakistanI kids in county cricket but just couple of Sikhs. why so ?

First of all their population is bigger than ours and they are more cricket obsessed. I would say that Sikhs are less obssessed about cricket compared to Hindus and Muslims. Even in Punjab you don't see that many apne play it, which makes the fact that Sikh cricketers have done so well even more impressive.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Even in Punjab you don't see that many apne play it, which makes the fact that Sikh cricketers have done so well even more impressive.

In Ludhiana cricket is no.1 sport and school level cricket is full of sardaar boys with joorra.

May be sikh parents don't see sport as a career option and want their kids to be doctors/engineers.

I feel Gurdwara Sahib shud give some financial award to sikh kids who excel in sports.

I know a local young cricket coach in Ludhiana who went for talent hunt in nearby villages and was amazed to see the talent. He found a 16 year old boy  bowler hitting 140 km/hr.

Link to post
Share on other sites

We should be encouraging our boys (and girls) to be batsman - they get much more glory.

who cares about bowling 140km/hr if you are making big scores?

 

i see it somewhat like the way army uses the working class in England - most bowlers are more lower middle:working class.

batsman usually middle-upper class . Similarly in India with likes of Navjot Sidhu

Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

First of all their population is bigger than ours and they are more cricket obsessed. I would say that Sikhs are less obssessed about cricket compared to Hindus and Muslims. Even in Punjab you don't see that many apne play it, which makes the fact that Sikh cricketers have done so well even more impressive.

Yes, and the pakistanis are usually of lower class economically, so more inclined to push their kids to cricket .
 

Sikhs in England more likely in future to emerge from private school system as around 1/3-1/2 English cricketers privately educated 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, ChardikalaUK said:

In England spinners are not guaranteed a spot in the team, the conditions are more suited to fast bowlers, especially those who can swing the ball.

Cricket is already considered quite unathletic to most sports and the fact that not many Indians or Sikhs have not done well in fast bowling just makes us look weak.

So the real issue , since football is a lot more popular is why so few Sikhs have made it professionally 

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

So the real issue , since football is a lot more popular is why so few Sikhs have made it professionally 

Because we don't think of sports as a serious career. It's not a bad way of thinking when you think about it. How many people actually make it as a professional athlete? Very few. It's better to have lots of educated Sikh professionals instead of masses of uneducated people some of whom are good at sports.

At the end if the day they are just games, nothing more. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Because we don't think of sports as a serious career. It's not a bad way of thinking when you think about it. How many people actually make it as a professional athlete? Very few. It's better to have lots of educated Sikh professionals instead of masses of uneducated people some of whom are good at sports.

At the end if the day they are just games, nothing more. 

A lot of cricketers complete degrees whilst early in career or only start their cricket career professionally after they have played for their Uni cricket team, e.g Monty Panesar.

Ravi Bopara is an example of a more working class cricketer who didn’t go to uni

Link to post
Share on other sites

There's a lot more emphasis on football compared to cricket from my experience.The KFF tournaments were very popular when I was growing up. Good memories going around the country with your team mates.

Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Loombdi said:

There's a lot more emphasis on football compared to cricket from my experience.The KFF tournaments were very popular when I was growing up. Good memories going around the country with your team mates.

Allah likes cricket more than football.

Those who leave cricket and play football r kafirs and will pay a big price.

jokes!

Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Loombdi said:

There's a lot more emphasis on football compared to cricket from my experience.The KFF tournaments were very popular when I was growing up. Good memories going around the country with your team mates.

Yeah, Sikhs are much more into football than cricket. 

In the wider UK public cricket has a negative image. It's considered slow, boring, takes too long to complete and doesn't require the most athleticism.

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Yeah, Sikhs are much more into football than cricket. 

In the wider UK public cricket has a negative image. It's considered slow, boring, takes too long to complete and doesn't require the most athleticism.

present day professional cricketers hv gr8 athleticism. T20 cricket is short and very popular and present day cricketers earn lots of money.

Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Yeah, Sikhs are much more into football than cricket. 

In the wider UK public cricket has a negative image. It's considered slow, boring, takes too long to complete and doesn't require the most athleticism.

Yes very true but I feel that's changing slightly. You get the "Barmy Army" with the Laddish behaviour and boozing. With winning the world cup more people are interested in it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, Loombdi said:

Yes very true but I feel that's changing slightly. You get the "Barmy Army" with the Laddish behaviour and boozing. With winning the world cup more people are interested in it.

Only slightly. Football is king, can be played in all weather conditions, is a simple game and much more 'trendy'

Cricket is even behind rugby in popularity in the upper-middle class typess

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
43 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

present day professional cricketers hv gr8 athleticism. T20 cricket is short and very popular and present day cricketers earn lots of money.

Yes compared to the cricketers from the 90s, but still nowhere near the fitness or athleticism of football, rugby, basketball players. There are still fat cricketers around. T20 still takes over 3 hours to complete.

Furthermore most English fans don't even take ODI or T20s seriously. They prefer test cricket by far. There weren't even that many celebrations when England won the World Cup last year.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...

  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Local authorities aren't eager to adopt private roads anymore, so all the residents will be liable for any costs in maintaining the road. New builds aren't really a great buy as they are overpriced and many companies are just cutting corners with shoddy workmanship. Personally I would never buy a new build. It is better to buy an older property after getting a full survey done and if there are issues highlighted in the survey such as leaky roof etc, you can negotiate a reduction with the seller. The older properties have been around for over 100 years while I bet some of the new builds will not last 50 years before they need major repairs and or/ demolition.  Although if the house is an investment and you have worked out all your numbers and want to sell after a few years or rent it out then I suppose this could be a good deal. As they say, make sure you do your due diligence. 
    • Punjab's GDP was $70 billion in 2020. If we take the example of UK Sikhs, I would estimate that each UK Sikh if they were to liquidate their property, their investments and their goods, each one would be worth about £100,000, that's taking account of the fact that many families who have been established here for more than 50 years are worth over a £1 million while the recent arrivals might only be worth a few thousand pounds, As the census showed, Sikhs have a higher level of property ownership (over 80%) then even the white population. In the UK property have grown hugely over the years. Taking the average of £100,000 then UK Sikhs have to potential to pump in $70 billion into Punjab about the same as the GDP. If the average of the UK is taken for the whole of the diaspora then this would mean the diaspora could potentially pump in $280 billion into Punjab in one go, four times the current GDP of Punjab if the diaspora were to return to Punjab. 
    • It depends on what the political geography is when they go back. If Punjab is independent then the influx of cash rich migrants back to their homeland will certainly be a big asset for Punjab. Given that a good number of the youth will be professionals like doctors, dentists, IT experts, accountants, lawyers etc this will mean that Punjab has the potential to become a IT hub as well as provide good quality healthcare for the population. Possibly even the creation of a national health service (NHS )in Punjab. With Punjab being independent, then the freedoms with which these diaspora Sikhs enjoyed aboard will have greater support and possibly stop any move towards authoritarianism in Punjab.  The diaspora is probably 2 million in number, so moving back they will create a strong demographic bloc which will need to be catered to by the politicians. Also they are more likely to vote in elections as well as take part in civic society than the native Punjabis. The only negative for the diaspora is that they also have major divisions such as being almost equally divided between British, Americans and Canadians. Add to these the smaller numbers of German, Italian, Malaysian, Singaporean, Myanmar and Australia/NZ and other Sikhs. These differences will be use by politicians to stop the diaspora becoming a strong voting bloc.  Certainly, the Punjab economy would see higher growth and the links that the diaspora has as well as their language skills will be a great asset for Punjabi companies wanting to trade with the west as well as with SE Asia and Japan. The Sikh diaspora from the middle east from places like Dubai, Kuwait, UAE and Qatar will also allow for Punjab to trade with these countries. Given that every jana khana diaspora Sikh is into IT, then Punjab would see a flurry of IT start ups and as with Israel you could see many Punjabi start up IPOs in the Nasdaq after a few years. You will also see greater mechanisation of agriculture and the move to stop the environmental damage being done to Punjab.  Along with all the economic advantage for Punjab the Punjab will also become a more interesting place, the Punjabi language will also undergo some change and probably new dialects of Punjabi being spoken in areas where a majority of the diaspora Sikhs have settled. Words from German, French, Malay, Italian will find their way into Punjabi. Also I think the 'Indian' accent of Punjabis will also change which in itself is worth separating Punjab for India just for that. Punjabis will start talking much more slowly because the young kids of the diaspora will never be able to understand the fast talking native Punjabis.  All in all it would make Punjab a much more interesting place and bring back the vibrancy for with Punjab was renowned in previous decades.   
    • United Sikhs latest great idea! helping Afghan Muslim students in India, while Afghan Sikhs are being forced out or threated with conversion to the death cult! You could not stoop lower than these FUD&US!   (1) UNITED SIKHS on Twitter: "The #Afghani #students in india  need your #help . As the Afghani students lost their world in the chaos, their parents are #struggling to stand back on their feet and help #educate their children in India. #Volunteer & #Donate us at : https://t.co/jUBaMvGlTq https://t.co/i6NaLuxuwq" / Twitter  
    • KA and United Sikhs have tried lately to defend their idiocy by showing how they are also helping Sikhs by posting some pictures and videos online. I think even they know now that Ravi Singh attempt to act like some Gurdwara Pardhan and block anyone critical of him is now not working. Either they change their actions or they will lose what support they have among Sikhs.  My hope is that Sikh and Punjab focussed charities like YourSeva and Sikh Relief overtake their two liberal charities. They harm these two have done far outweighs what little good they have done for Sikhs. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use