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I was scrolling through some of the topics in which it was discussed that Maharaj said that Islam is the religion of Satan and that it is disclosed somewhere in dasam  Granth sahib. Does anybody know where it is in Dasam Granth Sahib cause I have also heard this before too. 

 

Bhul Chuk Maf 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Khal1stan said:

I was scrolling through some of the topics in which it was discussed that Maharaj said that Islam is the religion of Satan and that it is disclosed somewhere in dasam  Granth sahib. Does anybody know where it is in Dasam Granth Sahib cause I have also heard this before too. 

 

Bhul Chuk Maf 

 

 

Dasam Granth states that Mohammed was one of many who deviated from what God wanted them to do and created a religion where his followers chant his name rather rather than God. 

Although Muslims will dispute this but essentially this is true as Muslims will take any criticism of Allah but not one against Mohammed. Muslims pride themsleves in stating that they love Mohammed more than they love their parents. 

Islam is described as the religon of demons (Rakshas) in Parchian Sewa Das where a sakhi is given where the Sikhs ask Guru Gobind Singh why the Gurus teachings do not allow Sikhs to rape captured women of the enemy as the Muslims do to captured enemy women. The Gurus says that the Panth is build on a higher moral plain than Islam and that Islam  is the religion of demons. Given what ISIS have done in Syria and Iraq then you have to accept that there is a demonic aspect to Islam.

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On 7/27/2020 at 2:53 AM, MuslimNeighbour said:

Sikhs believe Muhammad was a Prophet who got lost in his own ego or something along those lines. Did WaheGuru then make an error electing such a man to be a Prophet? Does WaheGuru not know the future?

Did Allah make an error in sending down Torah to Musa  and Injeel to Isaa , not knowing that the jews and christians will corrupt it ? Did Allah not know the future ? If he knew then why he sent down torah and injeel only to have them corrupted and having to send quran to muhammad again ?

 

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Sikhs believe in Satan?

Satan is in our minds. Sikhism , along with other dharmic religions, recognizes five vices of the mind :  Lust , Anger , Greed, Attachment and Ego 

even last surah of Quran "An Naas"  says Shaitaan "whispers" in the heart of men. The whisperer is nothing but the mind. It happens on day to day life also, not just religious. If you're dieting and have done tawbah from cakes, but then you see a pastry and your mind whispers "one is ok. after all you its been many days" . thats shaitaan too 😄

If quran was understood in a metaphorical terms, islam would have been a much more peaceful and graceful religion. 

 

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3 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

As per usual my questions go unanswered or attempts are made to divert the questions with your own questions, I fully understand why Sikhs don't do interfaith dialogue, you'd be made fools by anyone half competent.

You are resorting to ad-hominem argument attacks because you have no answer to my question.

I just showed you how ridiculous your questions are. 

but logic is never a part of islam, so its ok. take care 

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On 7/26/2020 at 10:23 PM, MuslimNeighbour said:

Sikhs believe Muhammad was a Prophet who got lost in his own ego or something along those lines. Did WaheGuru then make an error electing such a man to be a Prophet? Does WaheGuru not know the future?

Sikhs believe in Satan?

 

Howdy neighbour!

A prophet is one who prophesies, thats all. A Guru is different. Waheguru is not error-prone, but Dasam Granth tells us that the erroneous one was the Prophet.

Sikhs do not beleive in Satan the way you do,  ie living in your left hand, ready to jump on your prayer mat unless you fold the prayer mat after your prayer type of Satan. We beleieve that no-one has the power to stand upto Waheguru, not you, your Satan or anyone else.

 

13 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

As per usual my questions go unanswered or attempts are made to divert the questions with your own questions, I fully understand why Sikhs don't do interfaith dialogue, you'd be made fools by anyone half competent.

 

Well you would be in company then my neighbour. I asked you a question many days ago on the sophia mosque topic and you haven't been able to muster a response.

You have been made a fool by us half-competents. Now how does that make you feel?

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11 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Who made the Prophet a prophet?

Prophets don't have to be made. Anyone can prophesize.

Fun fact : The Simpsons have made many prophesies in their cartoons from many years ago which have turned out to happen in reality.

 

11 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Don't cop out by saying he made prophecies and that's why otherwise anyone can claim to be one

It's not a cop out...

 

11 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

your religion states that he was a Prophet of God. So did Waheguru deliberately elect a deficient man to be a Prophet, if so why or did Waheguru not know the future?

No, Waheguru selected a man, who turned out not to be competent. This doesn't mean that there are any deficiences with Waheguru.

Gurbani states that only Waheguru and Guru are perfect. All others have faults. The "others" include the Prohets of Islam.

Why would Allah SWT create man, and then tell him he needs to be circumcised in order to to be accepted? Surely Allah, the best of planners could have created man without a foreskin, if this form was more pleasing to him?

 

11 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Half of your forum is asking me questions and you expect me to respond to everything, I have better things to do. This is a Sikh forum you should be answering my questions on Sikhi and teaching me your ways instead of asking me things mostly.

...now this IS a cop out. You asked bold as brass about the capability of Sikhs in terms of strength in the world today. I gave you an answer for it. And asked you the same question. Now you are whining "that you have better things to do..."

Forums are not here for people to receive answers only. They are also to give answers. But I suppose thats typical of our circumcised neighbours. They are told to do, not to think for themselves.

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18 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Glass house much, show me the logic in Sikhi?

Show me the logic in beleiving in "God".

 

18 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

People use logic and rational to bring people to Islam

Only to those who start with no knowledge at all. Guru Nanak showed you lot at Mecca the path to truth after he performed that miracle. Why couldn't your best scholars then convince Guru Nanak that Islam was the truth?

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5 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Oh the old moving Mecca in his foot's direction trick, nice one lad.

Not foot. Feet. Mecca moved to wherever the Qazi moved Guru Sahib's feet.

 

5 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

My personal favourite parts of SIkh history are the battles of 1 Sikh vs 10 gajillion Mughal armed with Nukes.

Haven't heard that one. Will look into it.

 

6 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Well since the best scholars couldn't convince Nanak do tell me lad what were Nanak's counter arguments?

My dear neighbour, who would need a counter argument when the best scholars of Islam never had an argument in the first place?

 

6 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Is his Parchaar lost in time because I've yet to seeing anything of the sort,

That is MY fault. It is the fault of EVERY Sikh on this forum, in the street you live in, in the cities they inhabit and the countries they reside in. Guru Nanak gave us (and you) the message, yet because of our (sikh) weaknesses we have not be able to take them to a level or audience they deserve.

 

6 minutes ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

wonder if he told them about the 5 K's, oh wait he couldn't because it required 9 Gurus down the line to come up with that one.

Yes for many reasons. One is that the sword is never to attack to but to defend. This mentality had to be drummed into Sikhs first. But you didn't get your degree with your nursery teacher when you were 3 or 4 years old did you? You went to different schools, had many teachers for 18 odd years before you were rewarded with your degree. That is the same with Gurmat. The birth and strengthening of Gurmat could not be confined to one man's lifetime.

But I could aslo ask you, why the best of planners, Allah needed to send 124,999 prophets before he send the best one. Before he, the best of planners after thousands of years sent the "perfect example of man" to guide others.

Why not just have this perfect example as the first and only ? Surely that would have been the best of planning yes?

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6 hours ago, MuslimNeighbour said:

Glass house much, show me the logic in Sikhi? People use logic and rational to bring people to Islam but look who's talking, a guy who belongs to a faith he would never otherwise look twice at if he were not born in to it and has ZERO way of presenting it as the truth outside of 'feelings bro'.

ask any average person down the street in UK too , who they view more favorably. A desert oppressive cult which is creating violence and unrest around the world OR a faith that grew in the land of five rivers and survived and thrived despite being SUPPRESSED by the desert cult .

Look at average comments on youtube . and see how people view islam and how people view sikhism. Thats more than enough 

Guys all over the world do convert to sikhism , look at white converts in US , UK . or in Brazil and even Chile now 

Islam wouldn't have even half of territory it has today if NOT for the sword . Thats the bitter pill you cannot swallow . Sword and not the Pen has been the reason why islam spread so far. 

see the thing is after growing up , if a sikh guy doesn't like sikhism , he can anyday cut his hair . sikhism gives him the choice daily. muslim guy can never grow his foreskin back. It was a faith imposed on him at childhood .

Then there're sharia laws like cutting hands and legs from opposite side, stoning people to death, throwing gays off buildings, all violence embedded in islam.  WHAT FACE DO YOU HAVE LEFT TO DEBATE WITH US ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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On 7/27/2020 at 5:23 AM, MuslimNeighbour said:

Sikhs believe Muhammad was a Prophet who got lost in his own ego or something along those lines. Did WaheGuru then make an error electing such a man to be a Prophet? Does WaheGuru not know the future?

Sikhs believe in Satan?

Interesting stuff.

Waheguru did not make an error.The people of earth did.They had forgotten the ways of God.Thus,God sent multiple messengers  to spread the message of God the truth.But they themselves got trapped in the worldly affairs so that was THEIR error not Gods.

Now about Satan,In Sikhism we acknowledge the existence of such creatures for example devils like Satan,Angels and other beings.But we do not believe them to be as powerful or more powerful than the Supreme Lord.

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