Khalistan revisited 2020

[Guest asdasdasd]

https://www.1984tribute.com/draft-of-the-constitution-of-khalistan/#

[Guest KingTarunjot :D]

Sikhi will not last in India, no point joining up with pakistan. Khalistan is economically viable as sikhs are richer and normally in the top 1% around the world. If we are going to have khalistan we don't want any sikhs who are leaders in india now, they are just getting an extra salary from the government to destroy sikhi. We are gonna stop giving our water away to the other states of india for free. Punjab, land of the five rivers is gonna be a desert at this rate. If we don't get khalistan punjab will become a desert. Sikhi will be "absorbed" into hinduism by anti -panthic pro rss and other dera's in the future if we don't fight back. We will lose majority in punjab soon and, instead of killings sikhs & denying it,the government can do it openly and still get popular support.
Khalistan is the only viable option for the survival and advancement of sikhi.

[Guest Guest]

Enjoy:
 

At the Gates of Sachkhand

Once, a Sikh I know, went into a state of mind where he almost died. He hit the gates of Sachkhand, walking through a tunnel and came to a Light. When he saw the light he saw beautiful gardens and heard Gurbani! But then he saw so many Singhs in bana. He go scared so turned around. Then a spirit asked him where he was going (this was the spirit of Baba Deep Singh) he said, ‘Bhai Sahib you have won your place here, why are you turning away! These are the gates to Sachkhand. Then why are you outside?’ The spirit of Bhanda Singh Bahadur now rises and replies ‘We have not finished our duty. We wait to fight the battles for Khalsa Raj again! When it is established we will be there fighting for it too! We will be there to witness the day Khalsa has Victory!’

[MisterrSingh]

Wait for India to implode, then hopefully by that time some intelligent souls will have incarnated into Sikh families, and we'll see some positive forward movement. The other options rely on factors which will never work in our favour.

Of course, we have to take into account the evil that casts a shadow across every nation on this planet; the hidden hand that directs and controls everything. Hopefully, there will have been some progress on that front by the time our opportunity arrives.

[Guest Singh]

22 hours ago, Kaurr said:

This could either be the best thing that happen to punjabi- cause punjab has a lot of poterntial, or the worst- people vote for the same idiots and it just becomes a living hell with no power. Right now, with the people's mentalities, its leaning towards the worst.

Sister, you are missing the point being made by the Pakistani Punjabi OP.

What our Muslim neighbour is advocating for is that east Punjab be ruled by Pakistan (so that the Muslims can ever so kindly grant us access to CPEC and finish the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs they started in 1947 when they killed 20% of the Sikh population in Pakistan).

22 hours ago, Shaheed4life said:

If Khalistan happens the Panj Pyare of Akaal Takhat should lead as government.This is what is mentioned in Bhai Rama Singh ji's book.He said that in his dream of Khalsa Raj,Panj Pyare led government.

Paji our Muslim neighbour is not really advocating for such a Khalistan. The Muslim neighbour (OP) is advocating for a state of Khalistan (independent of India) but ruled by the Pakistani Muslims (not by our Panj Pyare).

20 hours ago, Kaurr said:

will the idiots we have today let panj pyare lead it?.................

Panj Pyare would never allow themselves to be led by Pakistan given the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs but I think the OP is perhaps offering Pakistani puppets like Pannun as the proposed new leader (who will continue residing in America) of this imaginary Pakistani state of east Punjab.

14 hours ago, MisterrSingh said:

Wait for India to implode, then hopefully by that time some intelligent souls will have incarnated into Sikh families, and we'll see some positive forward movement. The other options rely on factors which will never work in our favour.

Paji the option presented by our Muslim neighbour is actually in the singular (despite the skilful presentation of seemingly three options). The Muslim OP is essentially advocating for Pakistani rule over the Sikhs of east Punjab so that they can presumably finish what they started with the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which they killed 20% of the Sikh population.

Rather than waiting for a state like India which is staunchly supported by the USA, UK, EU, Russia, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, Japan etc to just miraculously implode is a bit unlikely imho.

Especially where the equation has changed from India de facto being a beggar state in 1984 to one with a projected $50 trillion dollar economy in the next 30 years (2.5 times bigger than the current USA economy in 2020), the faster way to achieve one's ambitions would surely be to support the implosion and disintegation of Pakistan into smaller linguistic successor states.

Pakistan being the glue that holds India together - once Pakistan implodes the Gujarati's would be the first to demand the implementation of the Anandpur Sahib resolution - namely a common currency and common defence (but complete individual control at constituent state level).

Bear in mind that in 1984 there were 500 million so-called Hindu's and 15 million Sikhs in India. Now there are 1,000 million so-called Hindu's and 21 million Sikhs.

Bear in mind that India's army expenditure is 100 times greater today than it was in 1984 and the economy controlled by Delhi is now more than ten times bigger.

On the other hand we have gone from a 63% majority in Punjab to one which will either become a minority next year by the 2021 census or by 2031 if Modi deems to delay revealing the inevitable to 2031. Instead of a community erasing our differences to work for the common good we have allowed the community to splinter via our own demented version of apartheid golaks and matrimonial golaks. The first building block of the type of future you envision can only be achieved uniting each and every Pind under a single united Gurdwara!

Last but not least remember that if Brahmins comprise a mere 3% of the Indian population and Bania's like Modi comprise a mere 3% of the India population then there is no reason that the Sikh Panth could overtake the latter and the former numerically as the biggest indigenous community within India by 2050 if we get our act together in terms of parchaar. With our Panj Piare from so far afield as Karnataka, Gujarat, Orissa, Hastinapur and western Punjab anybody educated via parchaar should readily see 1699 as the most revolutionary moment in the wretched history of the Indian sub-continent.

Instead of Sikhs falling below 50% of the Punjab population by either next year or 2031 with 30 years of dedicated parchaar to so-called Hindu Punjabi's who regularly attend Gurdwara but are insultingly referred to as non-Sikhs, to Bihari's born from the hallowed birthplace of both Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji and explaining to the Muslims of Malerkotla and elsewhere that Bhai Mardana Ji was an apostate and the first Sikh in history there is no reason why Sikhs cannot be 90% of the population in east Punjab and near enough 100 million strong throughout India by 2050. The question is does each and every one of us have the dedication to do our bit towards that objective of "Khalsa Raj" running the entire country from Delhi by 2050 with justice, equality and human rights for all. It may be instructive to study how the Mormons were routed by the American state militarily in the 19th century but adapted, grew and came close to capturing the White House through Mitt Romney. The minute we unite each and every Pind under a common saanjha single united Gurdwara ANYTHING will become possible for the Sikh Panth.

 

[MisterrSingh]

[Jaggaa]

The panj pyaare to lead a country?

Country: People from all classes, religions and backgrounds with hopes and dreams of a stronger economic future wanting a fair non-corrupt leadership so that their families have a chance at employment, a safer society

Panj Pyaare, Akaal Takht / Any Takht: Employed reprentatives for a company which owns a collection of "historical" (plus other) establisments. Said employees belong to uneducated, poor and needy families who have managed to work their way through the bureaucracy of the above company and managed to be appointed.

Current Leadership: Corrupt individuals who come from wealthy families, who have maintained their standing in the economic/social system of Punjab who themselves appoint the above and have very little interest in helping the people but more in mainatining what they have.

Hypothetical BSc/MSc Working Class Punjabi: Not going to let that happen and rightfully so.

Reality is far from this idea of a dystopia which many of us have started to wish for. In Punjab where as on the ground the situation is very different from what those living abroad view it as. As children we are taught that the Panj Pyaare are the embodiment of Guru Gobind Singh Jee and as much as I would liked to have thought this to be true, it simply isn't true as demonstrated by the current Sikh establishments and those that are supposedly leading our community.

[Guest Parchaar to the Poor]

On 9/14/2020 at 3:24 AM, Guest Singh said:

Sister, you are missing the point being made by the Pakistani Punjabi OP.

What our Muslim neighbour is advocating for is that east Punjab be ruled by Pakistan (so that the Muslims can ever so kindly grant us access to CPEC and finish the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs they started in 1947 when they killed 20% of the Sikh population in Pakistan).

Paji our Muslim neighbour is not really advocating for such a Khalistan. The Muslim neighbour (OP) is advocating for a state of Khalistan (independent of India) but ruled by the Pakistani Muslims (not by our Panj Pyare).

Panj Pyare would never allow themselves to be led by Pakistan given the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs but I think the OP is perhaps offering Pakistani puppets like Pannun as the proposed new leader (who will continue residing in America) of this imaginary Pakistani state of east Punjab.

Paji the option presented by our Muslim neighbour is actually in the singular (despite the skilful presentation of seemingly three options). The Muslim OP is essentially advocating for Pakistani rule over the Sikhs of east Punjab so that they can presumably finish what they started with the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which they killed 20% of the Sikh population.

Rather than waiting for a state like India which is staunchly supported by the USA, UK, EU, Russia, Germany, France, Canada, Australia, Japan etc to just miraculously implode is a bit unlikely imho.

Especially where the equation has changed from India de facto being a beggar state in 1984 to one with a projected $50 trillion dollar economy in the next 30 years (2.5 times bigger than the current USA economy in 2020), the faster way to achieve one's ambitions would surely be to support the implosion and disintegation of Pakistan into smaller linguistic successor states.

Pakistan being the glue that holds India together - once Pakistan implodes the Gujarati's would be the first to demand the implementation of the Anandpur Sahib resolution - namely a common currency and common defence (but complete individual control at constituent state level).

Bear in mind that in 1984 there were 500 million so-called Hindu's and 15 million Sikhs in India. Now there are 1,000 million so-called Hindu's and 21 million Sikhs.

Bear in mind that India's army expenditure is 100 times greater today than it was in 1984 and the economy controlled by Delhi is now more than ten times bigger.

On the other hand we have gone from a 63% majority in Punjab to one which will either become a minority next year by the 2021 census or by 2031 if Modi deems to delay revealing the inevitable to 2031. Instead of a community erasing our differences to work for the common good we have allowed the community to splinter via our own demented version of apartheid golaks and matrimonial golaks. The first building block of the type of future you envision can only be achieved uniting each and every Pind under a single united Gurdwara!

Last but not least remember that if Brahmins comprise a mere 3% of the Indian population and Bania's like Modi comprise a mere 3% of the India population then there is no reason that the Sikh Panth could overtake the latter and the former numerically as the biggest indigenous community within India by 2050 if we get our act together in terms of parchaar. With our Panj Piare from so far afield as Karnataka, Gujarat, Orissa, Hastinapur and western Punjab anybody educated via parchaar should readily see 1699 as the most revolutionary moment in the wretched history of the Indian sub-continent.

Instead of Sikhs falling below 50% of the Punjab population by either next year or 2031 with 30 years of dedicated parchaar to so-called Hindu Punjabi's who regularly attend Gurdwara but are insultingly referred to as non-Sikhs, to Bihari's born from the hallowed birthplace of both Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji and explaining to the Muslims of Malerkotla and elsewhere that Bhai Mardana Ji was an apostate and the first Sikh in history there is no reason why Sikhs cannot be 90% of the population in east Punjab and near enough 100 million strong throughout India by 2050. The question is does each and every one of us have the dedication to do our bit towards that objective of "Khalsa Raj" running the entire country from Delhi by 2050 with justice, equality and human rights for all. It may be instructive to study how the Mormons were routed by the American state militarily in the 19th century but adapted, grew and came close to capturing the White House through Mitt Romney. The minute we unite each and every Pind under a common saanjha single united Gurdwara ANYTHING will become possible for the Sikh Panth.

 

This lady is Chinese but imagine if Sikhs bothered to do parchaar to 1,400 million Indians! If Sikhs can't even reach out to educate Bihari's in Punjab that Guru Gobind Singh Ji were born in Bihar and the message of equality that Sikhi stands for something is seriously wrong with us!

[Guest Heatseeker]

@jagga

How can you say the panj  piyaare are corrupt? Do you have any proof ? 

[Guest Guest 222]

@Guest Heatseeker

The panj Piyare don’t have to be corrupt for them to be considered impractical for leading a country. Why training / education/ experience in politics does a member of the panj piyaree have? Absolutely none. 

Besides in a democracy they would be voted out pretty quickly as would any dogmatic religious personality