Jump to content

UK Sikhs giving their children western names


ChardikalaUK
 Share

Recommended Posts

On 9/22/2020 at 11:15 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

These types of names chosen are by the brown/blond highlight haired and blue eye contact lense brigade. 

It's brown chavness. 

Bit of a strange phenomenon really. When racism was rife, people chose traditional names but now they choose names so that their kids peers can remember them. Weird!

A lot of times you see these kids, the names don't suit them.

I understand people don't like long names because they tend to get shortened. So they will try to pick shorter names. 

People will think they are getting "unique" names so that they think they are standing out but like sheep they follow the crowd. 

I understand people get fed up of all the -suffixed names with endings like:

-inder, -deep, -jit,  -bir,  -dev, -pal etc.

However,  I think there is going to come a period when calling your kid Baldeep is going to be a breath of fresh air. 

The panjabi names of the last century were very short. The deep preet suffixes is recent. 

Like veer singh. Bir singh. Sobha singh. Gulab kaur, sukha singh etc.

In america the trend is towards shorter, original names. The panjabis r going towards muslim sounding names like Waris. Heeya, Noor, tejnoor, 

While amritdharis are doing the olden names like jassa singh. Sukha singh mehtaab singh for twins. Ishar singh. Akaal kaur. Sujan singh etc

Link to comment
Share on other sites

44 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

Whats in a name? Think a lot of people are making a mountain out of mole hill, you could have a kid with a good old name who is not into Sikhi, then you could have a Paul who is into Sikhi. So what's in a name?

Theres a sakhi about a sinner, think he was called Ajamaal. He was a kaami man and left his wife for a dancing girl. He had a son and named him Hari/Narain. As he got old his sins started catching up with him and he got really sick. In pain he used to call out for his son "Hari"  again and again. Repeating Hari, being another name for God washed his sins away and he went to heaven. 

Other than that, why would you want to forget the names of your ancestors and forefathers and give your kids White people names?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, puzzled said:

Theres a sakhi about a sinner, think he was called Ajamaal. He was a kaami man and left his wife for a dancing girl. He had a son and named him Hari/Narain. As he got old his sins started catching up with him and he got really sick. In pain he used to call out for his son "Hari"  again and again. Repeating Hari, being another name for God washed his sins away and he went to heaven. 

Other than that, why would you want to forget the names of your ancestors and forefathers and give your kids White people names?

I'm not saying forget them, all I'm saying a name isn't end all and be all, as I said a name is a label it does not change the soul within.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

The panjabi names of the last century were very short. The deep preet suffixes is recent. 

Like veer singh. Bir singh. Sobha singh. Gulab kaur, sukha singh etc.

In america the trend is towards shorter, original names. The panjabis r going towards muslim sounding names like Waris. Heeya, Noor, tejnoor, 

While amritdharis are doing the olden names like jassa singh. Sukha singh mehtaab singh for twins. Ishar singh. Akaal kaur. Sujan singh etc

Even with short names they get shortened further. 

Also, with traditional names (if they are 2 syllable ), whitey does not struggle with them as much as our people think. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Redoptics said:

Whats in a name? Think a lot of people are making a mountain out of mole hill, you could have a kid with a good old name who is not into Sikhi, then you could have a Paul who is into Sikhi. So what's in a name?

A name is important, it is a constant reminder of your background and culture. It's a big part of your identity. This is something even more important when you are a minority.

Why do you think Goreh Sikhs change their names when they convert?

There are plenty of short Indian names out there. At my school there was a girl called Kulwinderjit and the teachers could say it without much hassle. 

If people can say Tchaikovsky, they can say Kuljeet.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt
  • advertisement_alt


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • We have lamp (or Jyot) the pure unscented candle for a reason. Traditionally, Patis used candle light (jyot), so they could read SGGS in darkness. Light, elec didn't exist. Dhoop is used to attract the "Good spirits" but also keep freshness where Maharaj will be.  Interestingly and coincidentally I heard Sakhi a few dsys ago. During Dasa Pitha's time these souls were roaming the Earth and even Sangat noticed. Maharaj asked them "y u here?" They replied during recitation of SGGS and making Degh they didn't bother lighting candle. THAT WAS THEE ONLY REASON NO GATI WAS GIVEN TO THEM!!!  AUTHENTICITY NOT CHECKED I heard once on YT like 2 days ago.  If u apply dhoop in one room of your house twice a week u will notice a difference esp in the smell and freshness of that room. 
    • Sangat ji, With the hot weather as per Guru's Hukm, how can we look after our kes?  First of all the beard! Working in Construction, factory and any other heated environment I UNDERSTAND! At my workplace it's over 32 degree celcius and sometimes we have to lift 20kg ALL! DAY! My tips, regularly shampoo the beard during ishnan. APPLY OIL! The technique of applying oil is by rubbing it thoroughly in the roots. Pay attention to the noise esp on the chin. You will hear this "crosh crosh" noise. Keep rubbing oil until u can't hear it no more! This means the oil has blended in properly.  Second tip on beard, keep an extra kanga in your pocket. Every two, three hours give your beard a proper comb down to get rid of any sweat or stickiness. SECOND BENEFIT! Do this all 12 months every single day your beard will look like it's been professionally groomed. TRY IT! People will ask you "What gel u use? How can yer beard be naturally like that?" You can say all I use is coconut oil or whaeva oil but just comb the beard every 2-3 hours for a minute.  As for the kes, morning time get rid of all the gronjra (or knots - forgotten English word), in the morning. However, during evening comb down make sure you get rid of small remaining gronjra and comb yer hair nice and straight. You will feel soooo so relaxed. Yes our hair will go unnoticed due to Dastar, but our hair demands time and self grooming!So proper combing down, spending a good 15-20 mins most evenings is an absolute MUST!  Most evenings I let my hair down and cover hair with my parna for 2-3 hours so it gets to relax from the tying up.  FINAL TIP! We are Sikhs so we keep fighting and remember this! The tradition of Dastar and uncut hair started in India, where the weather is twice as hot. Everytime we bring this thought in the mind, Guru ji will bless us and make us feel cooled down by a notch.  Fateh.       
    • Been so much nindya and attacking Shastarvidiya since the 2000s, however if we look at gatka now it's still mostly as poor and poorly taught as it was back then, still morris dancing moves and still behzti moves in BBC shows about sikhi and vaisakhi. If people were going to attack shastarvidiya, wouldn't have made sense to improve gatka instead and make it more effective? Additionally, the Nihang Singh presence has improved greatly now, and the cracks within the the SGPC and affiliated jatha jathebandis are showing more greatly as panth becomes more knowledgable with dasam bani and itihas day-by-day, so much gyaan which was lost within panjabi sikhs during colonial times. In the 2000s, the groups were able to talk down this bani and  gyaan by associating it with  RSS and hindus, brahminwaad etc. Not working so well now is it? However with gyaan it would be also good for us to try and preserve our martial arts and keertan vidiya as well! More and more crazy keertan videos are coming out from jatha members that are being made fun of and making sangat annoyed and upset, on tiktok and instagram reels.  
    • Author Posted April 24   On 4/21/2025 at 2:43 PM, ipledgeblue said: sirr should not be nanga because keski is usually worn.   Sikhs can sleep nanga-sirr if they choose to . Being from Punjab, almost every Sardaarji i know (amritdhari or not) sleeps/showers with their hair uncovered. I don't think Guru Sahib asked us to wear Dastar to sleep and I don't think it is in SRM.   The idea of "keski being worn to sleep" is cos in Bollywood films (Bachna Ae Haseeno) Sikh characters usually tie a gol parna when sleeping since the actor's usually Hindu. So they gotta cover his head somehow or he'd have cut hair. Same reason Diljit wore a pagg to bed in the El Sueno vid. Only time they didn't do that was in Gadar with Sunny Deol which just looked odd tbh   What in the world? What sikh or even a decent human would base their knowledge of their culture or religion on a movie industry, that too Bollywood?  Believe me, no sikh ever said, I must cover my head becasue an actor did so in a movie. I've been doing it all wrong, I must start covering mh head because the sikh in that movie did.  Just because every panjabi and sardaar you know, does something, also doesn't make it right..  Follow the guru. And if you have a medical condition, then exemptions can be made.  Just admit it, because of my medical condition, I am not able to follow this rehit. Why are you getting everyone else to drop to your level?
    • Wasn't Guru Arjan Dev's martyrdom on amd always commemorated on 6th June? How come it was 30th May?  Just like 6th June 84, where the likes of Terrorists like Indira Gandhi chose to attack Darbar Sahib where many many innocent Sikhs would suffer, as they went to commemorate Martyrdom of Maharaj. 
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use