PANJ BANIA DA PAATH

[Khalistan88]

14 hours ago, Koi said:

5 baanis in the morning, 1 evening, 1 night

Thank you. Got it. 

[Khalistan88]

2 hours ago, MokhamSingh said:

The Maryada of all the traditional Puratan Sampradiye is as follows:

In the Morning:

Japji Sahib

Jaap Sahib

Suaye

Full 40 pauris of Anand Sahib.

in the evening:

Sri Rehras Saib

Sri Sohila Sahib.

This is the bare minimum. Any other amount of Bani can be read. Mool Mantar and Waheguru Mantar are also a daily requirement. But as far as Nitnem Bani is stated, then the above is the absolute minimum.

This tradition has been passed down from Gursikh to Gursikh, ever since the time of Guru Ji. The traditional Sampradaiye Sikhs have not made any changes...

 

Thank you. 

[Khalistan88]

2 hours ago, ssinghuk said:

@MokhamSingh Quick correction bhai sahib you missed out Chopai Sahib.

So:

In the Morning:

Japji Sahib

Jaap Sahib

Suaye

Chopai Sahib

Full 40 pauris of Anand Sahib.

Thank you. I saw that too. You guys are awesome.

[MokhamSingh]

Thanks for adding Chaupai Sahib...I forgot to include that. Sorry.

[ipledgeblue]

Please make sure to not skip any lines before Arril when reading Benti Chaupai, no matter what it says in SGPC maryada!

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

On 12/22/2020 at 12:50 AM, ipledgeblue said:

Please make sure to not skip any lines before Arril when reading Benti Chaupai, no matter what it says in SGPC maryada!

agreed

I can sort of understand if they don't include arril and chaupaee, but cutting off kabiyo baach shabad itself is pretty manmat

the prior jatheedar of akaal thakt-vedanti-said its not neccesary and not part of a ardaas theme that the benti chapai is but in the guru sahib states "dukh na tisai biaapat koee", making the dava that one the blessings attained by the bani will not let suffering touch the sikh 

I think it was teja bhausaria who got the last two lines cut due to being offended by "kirpaa karee ham par JAGMAATAA" 

 

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

On 12/4/2020 at 12:31 AM, Khalistan88 said:

Hey everyone, I'm new to this site and this is my first post. I recently got into Sikhi and for the last 4 months, I have been so into reading history and prayer as well. What I don't understand is different websites. Panj bani paath is what I don't understand. Are the five...3 in morning 1 evening 1 at night. Or is there 5 in the morning and then 1 in evening and 1 at night. 2 or 3 websites contradict each other. Which ones do we have to read. I'm so confused. Please don't laugh or judge me. 

 

What are the 5 and when do you do them? 

 

Some say 3 in morning and some say 5. Is 5 all in morning or are the 5 altogether in total throughout the day? 

Is it:

Japji sahib, Jaap sahib, tav-prasad savaiye in morning and then rehras and kirtan sohila (are these the 5?) 

 

Or is it:

 

Japji sahib, Jaap sahib, tav-prasad savaiye AND chaupai sahib and anand sahib in morning (are these the 5?) And then rehras and kirtan sohila in the evening time. 

 

 

Thank you 

the latter waheguru ji

I used to think three were for all sikhs and the five for amritdhari sikhs but I may be mistaken as I havent read that rehit maryada in years now 

[ipledgeblue]

On 5/4/2021 at 6:48 PM, NaamTiharoJoJape said:

agreed

I can sort of understand if they don't include arril and chaupaee, but cutting off kabiyo baach shabad itself is pretty manmat

the prior jatheedar of akaal thakt-vedanti-said its not neccesary and not part of a ardaas theme that the benti chapai is but in the guru sahib states "dukh na tisai biaapat koee", making the dava that one the blessings attained by the bani will not let suffering touch the sikh 

I think it was teja bhausaria who got the last two lines cut due to being offended by "kirpaa karee ham par JAGMAATAA" 

 

yeh cutting the bani off IS MANMAT! However the reason. say to read ARRIL is because mahapurash and gursikhs say that ARRIL must be read as well, and therefore I will say the same thing!

Teja Bhasauria got benti chaupai cut, he collaborated with his student to force harmandir sahib sangat into reading the cut version during Sodar Rehras, and this now continues to this day. He went crazy, started printing Guru Granth Sahib saroop WITHOUT bhagat bani, and changed sri bhagauti ji from ardass into sri satnam ji. BHASAURIA'S SON wrote a book trying to say the rest of the pauris in benti chaupai are actually a different bani.

What happened next, BHASAURIA GOT EXCOMMUNICATED! I can't believe there are still sikhs justifying cutting lines from benti chaupai, I even saw on the jatha website they are justifying this by I paraphrase: "follow the decision of the panth that Chaupai Sahib ends at “Dusht Dokh Tai Leho Bachaaee” for the reasons outlined above."

What manmatti nonsense, MANMATT! We should follow the decision of gursikhs and mahapurakhs, who tell us to read arril as well, we can trust them to read bani as Guru ji wanted us to. Instead of organisations and jathas making excuses of "BEING PANTHIC".  MANMATT NONSENSE!

 

EDIT without bhagat bani

 

[NaamTiharoJoJape]

10 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

yeh cutting the bani off IS MANMAT! However the reason. say to read ARRIL is because mahapurash and gursikhs say that ARRIL must be read as well, and therefore I will say the same thing!

Teja Bhasauria got benti chaupai cut, he collaborated with his student to force harmandir sahib sangat into reading the cut version during Sodar Rehras, and this now continues to this day. He went crazy, started printing Guru Granth Sahib saroop with bhagat bani, and changed sri bhagauti ji from ardass into sri satnam ji. BHASAURIA'S SON wrote a book trying to say the rest of the pauris in benti chaupai are actually a different bani.

What happened next, HE GOT EXCOMMUNICATED! I can't believe there are still sikhs justifying cutting lines from benti chaupai, I even saw on the jatha website they are justifying this by I paraphrase: "follow the decision of the panth that Chaupai Sahib ends at “Dusht Dokh Tai Leho Bachaaee” for the reasons outlined above."

What manmatti nonsense, MANMATT! We should follow the decision of gursikhs and mahapurakhs, who tell us to read arril as well, we can trust them to read bani as Guru ji wanted us to. Instead of organisations and jathas making excuses of "BEING PANTHIC".  MANMATT NONSENSE!

technically kabiyo baach benti, is the benti chaupai, as indicated from the name

anything beyond this "benti" chaupaee (such as rest of charitropakhyan or additional dasam bani) I would consider to be part of the longer "chaupaee sahib" which can be arbitrary upto the person's sharda and devotion 

but anyone can differ with this, this is just how I have viewed things from beginning 

the two cut off lines are the main issue in my opinion, because that is like reading japji sahib without the salok and 38th pauree, or anand sahib upto 37th pauree, or leaving out last two chhand of jaap sahib, last tuk of every astpadee in sukhmani sahib, etc. you get the point 

[ipledgeblue]

accidentally posted, edited my last post 

EDIT without bhagat bani