Best english Katha?

[dharamyudh 378]

22 hours ago, singhsince1981 said:

I dont know, but I always feel that brahmgyanis are born in India only. I maybe wrong and might be a cultural perception. But a Western Society is toooooooooooo materialistic for Brahmgyani. 

I respectfully disagree, brother. Anything is possible with the kirpa of Maharaj, it is not just exclusive to living in India. Your point kinda reflects how many thought during the times of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj, as many believed an individual had to retreat to isolated areas like mountains or jungles as the way to connect with akaal. However, according to gurbani we know this is not true.  

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On 1/3/2021 at 12:30 AM, dharamyudh said:

From the Smethwick area and grew up around the same time as my dad. I believe he was the first Brahmgiani to be born outside of India. definitely read up on him.  

I dont know, but I always feel that brahmgyanis are born in India only. I maybe wrong and might be a cultural perception. But a Western Society is toooooooooooo materialistic for Brahmgyani. 

 

35 minutes ago, dharamyudh said:

I respectfully disagree, brother. Anything is possible with the kirpa of Maharaj, it is not just exclusive to living in India. Your point kinda reflects how many thought during the times of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj, as many believed an individual had to retreat to isolated areas like mountains or jungles as the way to connect with akaal. However, according to gurbani we know this is not true.  

I agree with you bro. But it is difficult in Western Society. The culture, mindset is here different. Those who have not lived in Punjab will not understand this. 
 

Tell me how many brahmgyanis born & brought up in UK versus Punjab. I’d love to hear. 
 

There is a reason all peer, pegambars, bhakts, SatGuru, rishi, Munis, Buddhas —— All Born in on one land called Bharat. 
 

Very very few born outside this land. 

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

8 minutes ago, singhsince1981 said:

I dont know, but I always feel that brahmgyanis are born in India only. I maybe wrong and might be a cultural perception. But a Western Society is toooooooooooo materialistic for Brahmgyani. 

 

I agree with you bro. But it is difficult in Western Society. The culture, mindset is here different. Those who have not lived in Punjab will not understand this. 
 

Tell me how many brahmgyanis born & brought up in UK versus Punjab. I’d love to hear. 
 

There is a reason all peer, pegambars, bhakts, SatGuru, rishi, Munis, Buddhas —— All Born in on one land called Bharat. 
 

Very very few born outside this land. 

That's a weird amount of importance to place on dust right?

 

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Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

That's a weird amount of importance to place on dust right?

 

Is there a way to block you. Not interested to talk to you. 

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

Just now, singhsince1981 said:

Is there a way to block you. Not interested to talk to you. 

I'm sorry you said

On a small piece of land, in a small country, on a small continent which is on a tiny planet in the Universe, not even equal to a speck of dust?

 

Is this your idea of sikhi?

That's right. 

There is a way to block me. Feel free. I'll still be here messing up your agenda. Jagtar Singh Johal bro. Say his name. Oh that's right it conflicts with your hindu nationaist narrative emerging. 

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Okay I Quit sikhsangat.com. You can think whatever you like about me.

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

You know his mother and Guru Ji love that boy. Look at his face.

Imprisoned, tortured and held without trial for freedom of speech enacted from a sovereign country. For running a website that truthfully depicted the human rights abuses of the Indian government and hindu nationalists. 

He did that for Gursikhi bro. For Truth. Heavy is that debt of those who've done this and those who turn blind eye. I assure you. 

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

Just now, singhsince1981 said:

Okay I Quit sikhsangat.com. You can think whatever you like about me.

See you next profile. 

[AcceptWill201 71]

On 1/13/2021 at 3:03 AM, singhsince1981 said:

GujrantSingh, since u r a convert. In order to take full benefit. I recommend u learn Gurmukhi & Punjabi and live in Punjab, in a Punjabi culture to understand the emotions behind this dharma. Otherwise you will not get the full taste of Sikhism.

English translations, kathas are good. But you need to listen to kathas from the mouths of pooran brahmgyanis(Full Enlightened person). 
 

 

Not entirely correct brother. Theres punjabi who haves got the taste of Sikhi so it's down to the individual and Gurus blessings. To say that Sikhi can only be understood in punjabi isnt correct and theres a benefit to not have the punjabi culture influence in some cases. Obviously theres a strong connection to that region and that will always be the case due to it ithaas.

Yes Gurmukhi needs to be learnt and gurbani pronounced correctly to understand the message and also benefit from the kirtan and shabad vibrations.  But Naam that resides in us is universal and is not restricting. Vaheguru  is accessible to all.

The Gurus light and love blessed all souls regardless of east , western, rich, poor, animals etc

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

On 1/12/2021 at 7:03 PM, singhsince1981 said:

GujrantSingh, since u r a convert. In order to take full benefit. I recommend u learn Gurmukhi & Punjabi and live in Punjab, in a Punjabi culture to understand the emotions behind this dharma. Otherwise you will not get the full taste of Sikhism.

English translations, kathas are good. But you need to listen to kathas from the mouths of pooran brahmgyanis(Full Enlightened person). 
 

 

What you decide to undelete posts and edit them now?

You'll find out bro Dharam has nothing to do with emotion. 

No not all enlightened people come from India. 

You had your temperature checked bro and you failed big. 

Pro India every post. Not pro Sikhi. Won't even say Jagi. Fail bro. 

Your methods are the same as every other troll we've had. Show up. Pretend nice. Ask a question. Then slip in your ideology and avoid all questions like the plague. 

Have Jagis photo right there. Wont say anything about him for days now? Pathetic bro. We need you Paanthic not pathetic. 

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I agree with you bro. My point was for instance a Shakespeare Poem. The feeling and emotions can be grasped by an English person better than a Punjabi. Vice versa applies for Gurbani. Thats why its important to learn language and culture, to be familiar. Yes NAAM is universal.

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

Just now, singhsince1981 said:

I agree with you bro. My point was for instance a Shakespeare Poem. The feeling and emotions can be grasped by an English person better than a Punjabi. Vice versa applies for Gurbani. Thats why its important to learn language and culture, to be familiar. Yes NAAM is universal.

I'm pretty sure speaking out truthfully in the interest of kidnapped and tortured Sangat is in line with Sikhi?  Your supposed punjabi cultural experience doesn't change that. 

Can you try adressing a point instead of trying to avoid making sense by simply saying I'm foreign?

[GurjantGnostic 1,265]

Here. Try finding Gurbani to support anything you're saying. Then show me how I misinterpreted it ...  ...  ...

I'll get busy doing something else because we both lnow that isn't going to happen. 

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Brahmgyanis, saints, can be born anywhere!

The West has had it's fair share of saints in the medieval times, who wrote beautiful things that only an individual who is in love with the creator can write. 

 

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If you also like to read, a lot of Bhai Vir Singh's books have been translated into english. It can be found here: http://discoversikhism.com/sikh_library/english.html