Hidden menace of Islam in East Punjab

[SikhKosh]

Wikileaks 2010 "NEUTRALIZING PARTITION? CHANGING DEMOGRAPHICS IN PUNJAB":

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However, Punjab, which has seen a relatively homogenous Punjabi-speaking population since 1947, will have to adjust to the changing religious and cultural demographic pattern on the ground. Given the scars of partition and enduring memories of the communal violence in modern-day Punjab, this may not be easy. Dealing with a permanent labor underclass, viewed as ethnically and culturally different from the mainstream, could become a long-term issue for the prosperous state. It will bear watching how the Punjabi population (and the state government) react if the Muslim call to prayer becomes more pervasive across the state in the years ahead. END COMMENT

2021 East Punjabi Muslims be like:

 

Also Punjabi Sikhs in 2021:

Punjab Govt in 2021:

Punjab's only Muslim-majority town Malerkotla declared as new district on Eid-ul-Fitr
https://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-punjab-s-only-muslim-majority-town-malerkotla-declared-as-new-district-on-eid-ul-fitr-2890348

 

Truly an ignorant and short sighted nation that we are.

[Suchi]

Seems Ghazwe e Hind never ended. 

[ChardikalaUK]

The worst thing is when we build mosques for them. When has a muslim ever built a gurdwara and funded it?

Sikhs, in fact no other religion can keep up with muslim birth rates. Sikhs have 2 children on average whereas Muslims have 3. So a Sikh man will have 4 grandchildren whereas a Muslim man will have 9. Do the maths, it doesn't take long at all for demographics to change, especially in a small state like Punjab.

Laziness from Punjabis has resulted in hiring people people from UP and Bihar to do labour jobs. Those same Punjabis then go abroad to become labourers.

The Hindus are also to blame, their apathy in 1947 allowed millions of Muslims to remain in India and now they are migrating to Punjab where we cleared them out.

Where is the Sikh equivalent of Malerkotla in Pakistan? Again we should have cleared that area out in 1947.

[dallysingh101]

I think the greatest danger that we face is our own people's lack of unity, and the key culprit for that mess, is simply caste. Nail this, and we'll be united and strong. 

Fail to do this, and I think the consequences are obvious. 

I think all the people who sweep this under the rug should be ashamed of themselves and are guilty of putting us in danger more than any outsider.  

[Suchi]

5 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think the greatest danger that we face is our own people's lack of unity, and the key culprit for that mess, is simply caste. Nail this, and we'll be united and strong. 

Fail to do this, and I think the consequences are obvious. 

I think all the people who sweep this under the rug should be ashamed of themselves and are guilty of putting us in danger more than any outsider.  

Caste consciousness needs reservations to go which is being used to create divisions and foster dissent and civil war. 

And who is responsible for creating a new district that automatically gives a Muslim majority? And more importantly what is the end game- West Bengal? 

That along with aggressive Christian conversions is clear that the aim is not a peaceful Punjab. 

[dallysingh101]

19 hours ago, Suchi said:

Caste consciousness needs reservations to go which is being used to create divisions and foster dissent and civil war. 

I don't agree. A particular caste seems hell bent on 'reserving' every last resource and opportunity for themselves. They wont willingly share and appear to believe they have some 'divine right' to all privileges because of their caste, to the exclusion of others, who they have a long history of having antipathy for.

Given this pervasive attitude and culture - there seems little choice other than reservations. It's like expecting white supremacists to give blacks a chance in the USA. Ain't happening.  Never will. That's why you have to have things like reservations sadly.

These people need to straighten themselves out and quickly too. Or it's on their heads. Like these people haven't been 'fostering divisions' with their own long-standing behaviour. 

Sadly, change is urgently required in Panjab. If people aren't willingly going to act in a more civilised, egalitarian and progressive way - conflict is probably inevitable.   

[dallysingh101]

On 5/25/2021 at 2:44 PM, ChardikalaUK said:

Laziness from Punjabis has resulted in hiring people people from UP and Bihar to do labour jobs. Those same Punjabis then go abroad to become labourers.

Let's get specific. Which 'Punjabis' are these usually?

[ChardikalaUK]

3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Let's get specific. Which 'Punjabis' are these usually?

Rural Sikhs. I have seen it in my own family there.

We Sikhs are just obsessed with going abroad. My Grandfather has 11 grandchildren, 8 of them live in the west. The other 3 would love to leave as well. This is having a big impact on Sikh demographics in Punjab.

Hindus in Punjab don't migrate anywhere near as much, most of them have businesses and have no reason to leave. 

And now you have Muslim and Hindu migration from UP and Bihar. We will lose our majority status very soon.

[dallysingh101]

31 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:

Rural Sikhs. I have seen it in my own family there.

We Sikhs are just obsessed with going abroad. My Grandfather has 11 grandchildren, 8 of them live in the west. The other 3 would love to leave as well. This is having a big impact on Sikh demographics in Punjab.

Hindus in Punjab don't migrate anywhere near as much, most of them have businesses and have no reason to leave. 

And now you have Muslim and Hindu migration from UP and Bihar. We will lose our majority status very soon.

Let's be honest, the vast majority that I've met who immigrate here to become 'builders' are juts. And to be frank, the great reputation tarkhans made in this industry in the UK is slowly being eroded by lots of these who have no love for the trades and just see it as a quick way to make big bucks (cutting corners). Now whilst this is not true of all juts who've gone into construction, more and more are coming in and cowboying away, doing ruddhi quality work, ripping customers, and each other off. It's a disgrace and it looks like another thing these people are going to ruin. I've seen a fair few jobs where people (nonSikhs) have hired such people and the work has been so substandard that they've been put off hiring another apna. 

I think Malwa will be okay, don't know about Majha but those lot need to sort out the corrupt mess on their doorstep with the SGPC/Akali Dal in Amritsar. Doaba is looking like a lost cause. It's like the concept of dharam is alien to most of them, and they've made the fantasist vichaars of people like Moosewala and caste identity into their gospel.    

How the hell are we going to blame anyone else, when these things are largely self-inflicted. And a lot of the 'labourers' obviously don't come from poor families because they can afford the large fees the benauti colleges charge for them to stay here. 

[TigerForce1]

On 5/25/2021 at 4:19 PM, dallysingh101 said:

I think the greatest danger that we face is our own people's lack of unity, and the key culprit for that mess, is simply caste. Nail this, and we'll be united and strong. 

Fail to do this, and I think the consequences are obvious. 

I think all the people who sweep this under the rug should be ashamed of themselves and are guilty of putting us in danger more than any outsider.  

I think you do exactly what you despise the most.  You clearly have a inferiority complex, which triggers a defence mechanism inside you, which goes on the offensive to bring down a certain caste or community.  This kind anger is not healthy and neither does this create unity.