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Any ideas as to what the response should be (to Punjabis) when people like us comment negatively on these kind of occurrences? They make the - admittedly valid - argument that we're only in foreign lands because our fathers, grandfathers, etc., came over. They claim that we don't have a leg to stand on when we criticise current Indian behaviour. Any ideas?

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Tallan sahib. The fact that people do this shows how spiritually bankrupt majority of people in Punjab are. Literally pathetic.

Many earlier immigrant groups are an example of this. How many 3rd generation immigrants of non-English European origins still speak their language? They're completely assimilated but since Panjabis c

You're right, this is properly disrespectful. Who is allowing this to go on unchecked? Doabans doing this, you can understand, but how is this stupidity spreading unchecked?  But these days,

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On 7/26/2022 at 9:58 PM, MisterrSingh said:

Any ideas as to what the response should be (to Punjabis) when people like us comment negatively on these kind of occurrences? They make the - admittedly valid - argument that we're only in foreign lands because our fathers, grandfathers, etc., came over. They claim that we don't have a leg to stand on when we criticise current Indian behaviour. Any ideas?

You can say past immigrants didn't resort to morally low ways to immigrate such as, "contract" marriages which are rife in Panjab now, abandoning "husbands" leading to suicides or turning Gurdwara's into places of blind ritualism. They also didn't heavily pollute Panjab's landscape with IELTS centers and visa agents on every single corner which rip you off and aren't genuine. 

Punjab man marries his own sister (2020)

 Young man commits suicide after wife goes to Canada

'IELTS brides’: The business of marriage in Punjab

 

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18 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Honestly, I would move to Panjab now but its their behaviour/actions (like Plane Gurdwara's) there which make me sceptical about it nowadays. You can say past immigrants didn't resort to morally low ways to immigrate such as, "contract" marriages which are rife in Panjab now, abandoning "husbands" leading to suicides or turning Gurdwara's into places of blind ritualism. They also didn't heavily pollute Panjab's landscape with IELTS centers and visa agents on every single corner which rip you off and aren't genuine. 

Punjab man marries his own sister (2020)

 Young man commits suicide after wife goes to Canada

'IELTS brides’: The business of marriage in Punjab

 

'Agents' over there are even sending females into dubious situations where they get abused and exploited. That says a lot. 

The moral fibre of our society seems to be fragmenting. But often this leads to a backlash. Hopefully we'll have a Sikh revolution there soon. 

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8 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

'Agents' over there are even sending females into dubious situations where they get abused and exploited. That says a lot. 

The moral fibre of our society seems to be fragmenting. But often this leads to a backlash. Hopefully we'll have a Sikh revolution there soon. 

Even men are ending up in dangerous locations. A revolution soon is a must but I highly doubt the possibility of one. Another problem with people there is they don't listen to meaningful advice, they believe you limit their chances of "success" by deterring them from something potentially harmful like this:  

27 Panjabis killed in Iraq after being abducted 

 https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/chandigarh/27-punjabis-were-killed-in-iraq-in-2014-punjab-approves-rs-10000-monthly-dole-for-kin-of-8-killed-by-isis-7456793/

Panjab women duped and stuck in Muscat goes viral, Amarinder asks for MEA help. 

https://theprint.in/india/video-of-punjab-women-duped-and-stuck-in-muscat-goes-viral-amarinder-asks-for-mea-help/366123/

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2 hours ago, 5aaban said:

This ones from Jalandhar. Isn't it disrespectful to place toys like that?

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Tallan sahib. The fact that people do this shows how spiritually bankrupt majority of people in Punjab are. Literally pathetic.

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39 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Honestly, I would move to Panjab now but its their behaviour/actions (like Plane Gurdwara's) there which make me sceptical about it nowadays. You can say past immigrants didn't resort to morally low ways to immigrate such as, "contract" marriages which are rife in Panjab now, abandoning "husbands" leading to suicides or turning Gurdwara's into places of blind ritualism. They also didn't heavily pollute Panjab's landscape with IELTS centers and visa agents on every single corner which rip you off and aren't genuine. 

Yes, you're spot on with those distinctions and I've made them too, but it's lost on them. They don't see them at all. I thought I was missing something, lol.

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19 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

'Agents' over there are even sending females into dubious situations where they get abused and exploited. That says a lot. 

The moral fibre of our society seems to be fragmenting. But often this leads to a backlash. Hopefully we'll have a Sikh revolution there soon. 

The prime business in punjab is this ielts center or immigration agent. I have seen people coming to Canada and then opening business here to help people from Punjab migrate. And then these people will not stop boasting about how great punjabis are.

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42 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Honestly, I would move to Panjab now but its their behaviour/actions (like Plane Gurdwara's) there which make me sceptical about it nowadays. You can say past immigrants didn't resort to morally low ways to immigrate such as, "contract" marriages which are rife in Panjab now, abandoning "husbands" leading to suicides or turning Gurdwara's into places of blind ritualism. They also didn't heavily pollute Panjab's landscape with IELTS centers and visa agents on every single corner which rip you off and aren't genuine. 

Punjab man marries his own sister (2020)

 Young man commits suicide after wife goes to Canada

'IELTS brides’: The business of marriage in Punjab

 

do you think any other group of people participate in such things to such an extent?

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10 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

do you think any other group of people participate in such things to such an extent?

I don't think so.  

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I don't think so. Even Panjabis on the other side wouldn't resort this low. 

and they are literally killing each other here in Canada. Have you seen how many young punjabis die in BC area? Joining gangs and then killing each other off. The hell are these people going to do for Sikhi or Punjab? And then dumb news reporter were calling these people Sikh.

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3 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

I don't think so. Even Panjabis on the other side wouldn't resort this low. 

one would say oh the people suffer from poverty so they are desperate but you see well off people doing this stuff to go to foreign countries by any means possible.

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1 minute ago, proudkaur21 said:

and they are literally killing each other here in Canada. Have you seen how many young punjabis die in BC area? Joining gangs and then killing each other off. The hell are these people going to do for Sikhi or Punjab? And then dumb news reporter were calling these people Sikh.

Going in the west has actually damaged Sikhi more than benefiting it. Most children of immigrants will fully assimilate in a few generations, they won't speak Panjabi anymore or be Sikh (and many have already let go into the 2nd or 3rd generation). And since everyone is migrating, it will diminish Sikhi in Panjab further. 

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10 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

and they are literally killing each other here in Canada. Have you seen how many young punjabis die in BC area? Joining gangs and then killing each other off. The hell are these people going to do for Sikhi or Punjab? And then dumb news reporter were calling these people Sikh.

Are they just knocking each other off, are they pointing that outwards at all? 

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On 7/26/2022 at 10:50 PM, proudkaur21 said:

one would say oh the people suffer from poverty so they are desperate but you see well off people doing this stuff to go to foreign countries by any means possible.

Plenty of people suffer from poverty yet they appear much more content with life than some well-off people in Panjab.  

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