Sant Waryam Singh Ratwara Sahib

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fateh,

listen to the following divan, sant waryam singh gets maharj's darshan whilst doing katha .........

and its all recorded on tape whilst its actually happening. the sangat go mental and sant waryam singh goes mast .......... click on the link and listen particularly carefully towards the end of the divan

http://www.sfsikhcenter.org/multimedia/04-...ee%20Parabh.mp3

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Sant Waryam Singh Ji were a fountain of knowledge i would recommend people read the atam marg magazines which can be found on the net. this was Baba jis magazine in both punjabi with short english articles at the end. Baba Jis divans come on amritbani radio every night. 66 divans can be found on sfsikhcenter.com with 12 - 15 more on keertan.org and rajkaregakhalsa.com

I would recommend baba jis set of books called 'baat agam ki' which is a set of 7 books. It is also tnslated into english with only the first five are available under the title of 'Discourses of the beyond' the knowledge i n them is vast and deep.

Also worth watching is a video of Baba Ji teaching the sangat how to meditate which can be found on the link below

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...93&hl=en-GB

enjoy

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kirpa maaan. swaas swaas

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I would recommend baba jis set of books called 'baat agam ki' which is a set of 7 books. It is also tnslated into english with only the first five are available under the title of 'Discourses of the beyond' the knowledge i n them is vast and deep.

enjoy

veer/phenjee where we we be able to get hold of these books? (English translatations) ?

wjkk wjkf

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wowww!!!!

sant waryam singh ji came to my home and gave me a hugggieeeeee :lol: :| :lol:

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Justme

if you contact amrit bani radio and find out the contact details of Gurbaksh Kaur who supplies the DVDs and CDS from Ratwara sahib to all. Contact her or Jagtar Singh and i am sure they will be able to oblidge as they were the ones who got me the books. Otherwise they would be available at Ratwara Sahib.

the following thread is a quick discourse taken from Discourses of the beyond part 02 about the Chakras! I pesonally found this article very interesting

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=2345&hl=

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I have pretty much all the discourses on beyond series (5 books), i have lot of their other english books as well. Amount of gyan these books have is beyond words all of materials are backed up fully by gurbani quotes/ english translations , lets just put it this way, you can get phd in mystical sikhi by reading these books and if you apply these teachings to your life, results are immense.

Here is few glimpse of their writing:

taken from sikhawareness.com-

Source: Discourses on the Beyond part 3 By Sant Waryam Singh Ji Ratwara Sahib (Student of Siriman 108 Sant Maharaj Isher Singh Ji Rara Sahib, Karamsar)

This is rare knowledge you would hardly find anywhere, please spread it to whoever is interested into sikhi and spirituality.

enjoy !

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Here is some of more stuff from the book discourse on beyond 2

The Discourse of Sant isher singh ji Rara Sahib with Sangat.

Question:

In "Asa Di //" (Guru Nanak Dev's ode, composed in Rag Asa) in second shalok(hymn) we read, O God, true are your hands; real is the whole universe. All the people too are a reality. True are all your forms. It seems to suggest that world is real (Truth). On a same token, gurbani talks about the world is portrayed as a mountain of smoke or a dream that has no reality. What then is the real truth?

Answer: According to the circumstances, both the above mentioned fundamentals are the truth in their own sphere. In dream, all things are seen there appear to be fully true. In the dreams, one feels joys and sorrows. The wife and children (seen there) seem so dear. If the dream shows separation from them, one starts weeping. Some appear kith and kin, some strangers; gains and losses in the dream cause happiness and sorrow. If in the dream, one is pursued by the dacoits, he keeps hiding moving from place to place to save his life. Their fear is visible in the body; he weeps, he shouts for help, his heart begins to palpitate. When he wakes up, he is suprised to remember the atmosphere of the dream; saying that he had been afraid for nothing (those were dream events) that he had wept for no reason. He rebukes himself for feeling fear and for weeping over the un real dream events. That was a a dream. Thus commands- Guru Maharaj-

This world is as unreal as the dream at night. Whatever is visible is subject to non existence. Why do you bother? SGGS- 808

Further the commandment is-

O fool, you haveset your heart on a dream. The kingship victories and enjoyments of the dream vanish into thin air on waking. On waking one is puzzled over his own behavious. Acheivements have run away. Still one pursues one's businesses. No sucess is acheived. Man is caught in illusion and un reality. What hope is there for the poor thing, the being who misleads his own self- SGGS JI- 707

What we call the waking state is also the big dream of life. The dream in the night lasts for a short time. but this dream (illusion) lasts all through life. In the dream, all happenning appeared to be completely true. In that dream, the whole life's events seemed to be true. But when a man leaves this world and goes to the hereafter the whole life story seems to be a dream.

One kilo of flour is for eating, 2000 kg of flour is also for eating. Similarly a night's dream is very short, while the whole's life dream is much longer. But both are mere dreams. Just as things seen in the dream are unreal, similarly this world and this life are only the creation of imagination (imaginary things); nothing more. Just as the tiger of the dream or dream's deity, and dream's serpent are all nothing more than imaginary things. In the same manner, the tiger, the deity and the serpent of the waking life too have no existence. In fact, they are not there at all. If there is any truth, it's the self. The soul is formless, changeless, and complete bliss. It says steady (unruffled), just as stone stays in its hardness, the water keeps its flowing quality and the sky (ether) stays in its being the medium of sound. Similarly the soul always stays steady in its soul-hood. Except him, nothing else exists in the world. Guru Maharaj Says-

Behold the supreme being everywhere,

Hear the supreme being in all.

Discourse on one and one alone.

The Supreme being has manifested himself in all.

He alone is the creator,

Know not any other than him. SGGS- 846

Names and shapes are all imaginary. The water of the ocean appears to rise in high tides; in fact it is nothing but water. What we see as cloth is nothing more than yarn. What we imagine to be pots is only clay. We see thousands of ornaments of different shapes, sizes, and names. They are only one thing- gold (god in the world). Even the whole visible world is shaped out one God. Countless waves rise from water, thousands of ornaments are made from Gold; so all the universe is nothing else but God in different shapes. The soul is always free and ever living.

When such a beleif lives firmly fixed in the mind, then one obtains complete knowledge (gyan) and one comes to know about the real nature of the world. The world appears to be nothing more than illusion. The world's existence is not truth, but is all false in the past, present and future. In reality it is just One soul on all sides. That soul is formless, not subject to change and it lives in the heart of all.

Various ideas are called the mind. These ideas are like the sky(ether), which is all blank. What is called the world is the creation of the mind (or imagination). It merges into the soul; nothing else but the soul remains. Owing to the illusion, the world appears to be separate from the soul. It is not different from the soul. Just as in the dim light a rope lying in partial darkness appears to be a snake, through our ignorance. With this illusion, we greatly fear and call on others for help. So long as there is darkness (ignorance) we are full of fear and keep trembling with (false) fear. We entertain many imaginary suitations in the mind. But when it is broad day light, rope appears. What is realy is- a rope and not the snake; and we laugh at own ignorance. Thus through the lifelong illusion, we have got into habit of regarding the world as the complete reality. Because of this ignorance, this world appears to us not the outward form of god (which it is), but as a center of happiness and misery, joys, sorrows, and full of the opposites and all the home of sorrows. It seems to be very real thing.

So Guru Maharaj says that just as mountain of smoke is not a fact similarly this world is not reality. It is One God, visible in different shapes and colours. Whatever we see is god himself alone and nothing else.

Just as anything that has been created out of one thing partakes of it's nature and qualities. Just as a small seed grows into the shape of a huge tree; in fact it is evolved shape of that every seed. It (tree) may be very beautiful and very expensive, but it is only the spread of that small seed. As Guru Maharaj has ordained-

I have seen seeds of many sorts being sown.

When the fruit ripens, the seed appears in the same one form. SGGS - 736

All things are the adobe of God Almighty; in whatever dwelling it lives, it is known by the different names. He alone is the creator and Doer; everything happens according to the will of God. It has spread in countless waves or tibes; it is difficult to recognize different shapes of light (knowledge); that god is the sole Maker and is indestructible. Always, always and yet always, He is Merciful One; remembering him, one gets into bliss- thus sayeth Nanak. SGGS - 275.

There are give elements in the world- first is Name, second is shape, third is truth, the fourth is the mind and the fifth one is bliss. Out of these Sat(truth), Chit (super consciouness/mind) and Anand (pure happiness/bliss) is God himself. He is called Sat Chit Anand. Name and shape can also be called Maya (false appearance) and seem ( to exist) for a short period.

Name and form (the physical world) appears resting on the universal soul (Sat Chit Anand). Name and shape are false concepts. Inside and outside this whole scene, it is all filled with the soul. Name and shape depend on Sat-Chit-Anand (Godly qualities). Sat Chit Anand (God Almighty) is ever lasting. Just as water always exist in the ocean, whatever it's shapes and names. Some time they are alled waves, bubbles and foam; sometime these are not there. We have to link our mind with Sat Chit Anand (God), leaving the names and shapes which are false entities. When our mind is joined to one Universal Soul, it will be the end of all the miseries and sorrows. To the extend, one's mentality gets distanced from names and shapes, to that extend it will be merged in God, the sole reality. To that extend, one's mentality gets distanced from names and shapes, to that extend it will be merged in God, the sole Reality. To that extent, one would enjoy happiness and peace of mind.

In the end, after hard practice, when the stage of name and shape is passed; and through the Grace and Guru's and great souls, one's inner eyes are opened and one gets divine vision, then name and shape also become a part of WaheGuru. This universe will appear the visible shape of God and one's self will get merged in Wahe-Guru (God Almighty). For example, water and waves are just one thing, the ocean never sees the waves (as separate from itself), for it is steady and calm and is itself (ocean itself) in the shape of waves and waters. Realized souls never feel the titles of names and shapes, for all the universal scene, to them it all their own self, God himself. The sum total of all this is called God or Creator.

O my eyes, God has filled his light in you. So you should see nothing but God in all beings and things. See nothing except God in all. The sighter is blessed with the glimpse of God.

This universe that you see around you is all the form of God, that comes in your sight. Through the grace of the Guru, you see and realize that all is One God- no second.

There is no one other than God.

We are blind of eyes (spiritual) sight. If we get some true Guru, he will restore sight to our vision. SGGS JI- 922

When god-realized vision is attained one realizes onself. Nothing is visible except God himself. All is God. God is all.

Everything is Gobind(God); everything is Gobind. There is nothing other than God. SGGS JI- 485

To be Continued !

Cont'd:

Question: What is the biggest hurdle in the attainment of True knowledge?

Answer: The biggest hurdle in the path of attaining true knowledge is our habit of regarding the physical body as our true self. The body is subject to so many ills and full of urine and excreta. Looking upon this body as our true self is certainly the biggest obstruction in the spiritual path.

The atheist philosopher Charavak says that this gross body is our soul. It is visible to all. Something (the soul) which can’t be seen, which has no shape, which has no dimensions has no existence at all. This body can be seen by all; hence we call it our own self.

All persons say, I am a child, I am a young person, I am an old man, I am Bhraman, I am a khatri (castes), I m a black, I am a white, I m brown, I m a vaish, I am a shudra (other caste), I am beautiful, I am male, I am female, I am fat, I am lean and thin, I am tall, I m short-stature etc. All that speaks I, I and I am full of ego mentality.

All these qualities are and have always been associated with gross body. Implying that this body of flesh is our soul, we have attachment to this body and go on saying, I am a young man, I am old, I am a child, I am a Khatri, I am black, I am fair, I am male, I am female, I am fat, I am think, I am tall, I am short-sized. Our affection is always for the things other than the soul. Anything which is the subject of affection can’t be the soul. The soul is far different from these things. We say “my body”, that implies that I am different from the body, just as we say ‘My house’; that means I am separate (owner) and the body is a separate entity. So my body means that in reality I am different and the body is different. We say ‘my body’. If myself was identical with body, we would say ‘ I am the body’. Hence we are separate from the body, as “my house’ suggests that I am not the house. I am different. So this grown body can’t be the soul. When a person dies, his body is cremated. The soul is never born, never dead. It is immortal, so is learnt from the religious scriptures. To believe that the soul is this body with nine gates (organs) is the height of foolishness.

The body is the covering of the soul; so this covering is called food- based sheath causal (anamaye kosh). Beyond that is the abstract body (sukhsham sirar) and the causal self (Karan Sirar). In that abstract, there are three sheaths out of five, namely- vital sheath, mental sheath and intellectual sheath. Out of these three, one is the life center, which many people to be soul. About this too, there are two theories. One group regards the sense organs as the soul. I see, I hear, I stay, I Walk. Thus the concept of self seems to comprise the soul because I am the seer, I am the hearer, I walk; so some conclude that these, sense organs are the soul. That is my identity. But this is illusion, because we have affection for these sense organs (eye, ear, etc). Just as we have the love for the body. These sense organs are not the soul. That in which we have the feel of I-ness can’t be the soul. In these organs we have the sense of I-ness, just as I say my eyes are weak, my ears are deaf, my hands shake, and my foot is paining. So we call these sense organs my ear, my eye etc. That means that “the real I” is different from these organs, just “my house” implies that I am not the house, but separate. Some others believe that life itself is the soul. All organs perform their functions (seeing, hearing etc). So long as we are alive. When life breath leaves the body, the body becomes a corpse. The dead body is burnt, some immerse it in water, without life-breath body is nothing. The body is valued only so long there is life in it. The body is adorned, it is made stout with foods and drinks, so for this reason some think that this life breath itself is the soul.

People say, “I am hungry, I m thirsty. Hunger and thirst can be felt only by the living; not by eyes or ears or the nose. I am hungry seems to suggest that life is the soul. Then life would be the soul. Man develops love for life and fears lest my life should leave my body. We say my life; that means that I am separate, and life is separate (it is mine). So life can’t be identical with the soul. Others says that if you don’t recognize life to be the same as the soul, the mind is surely the soul. Mind should be called the soul, because without the mind, the sense organs can have no knowledge, When we are taking our meals, the house wife enquired if the salt and pepper is in the correct quantity in the pulses. Often times we say, I was eating absentmindedly, I will reply to your question after I eat the next morsel. The feel of joy and sorrow is experienced by the mind not by the eyes, ears, nose, and hands. People say, I am happy. I am feeling miserable, therefore, mind is proved to be soul.

If we accept mind as the soul, that too is a baseless argument. Often we say, my mind is not steady; my mind has no taste for prayers and holy reading. We call the mind as ours; we feel love for it. We say my mind that proves that I am separate and mind is separated. Therefore mind too can’t be called the soul (it is my mind, like my house, my book), because the soul can’t belong to me.

If mind is not the soul, then intellect can be accepted as the soul. The soul which is the adobe of bliss. People are heard saying, I enjoy myself, I do this act, I returned there, I would go to the next world. It seems correct designate the intellect as the soul. But when we say, my intellect is very sluggish, about an other we say that his intellect is very sharp, we talk of my-ness. My intellect means, I develop love for it. My intellect means that I am separate and my intellect is separate (my quality).

We say intellect is not the soul, but inside the intellect lives the soul, which is the centre of bliss. That may be the soul. The sheath of bliss is also called source body. It is also called ignorance as well as lack of knowledge. Also such experiences are narrated as; last night I enjoyed sound sleep, full of bliss. I had no consciousness then, I knew nothing. This condition is called ignorance and also absence of knowledge , it is also called illusion (Maya). If someone says that this bliss of illusion (in sound sleep, when we have no consciousness) is the soul it can’t be the soul. But if someone says, that the soul is one that is the on-looker of this bliss of unconsciousness; that the soul is the light which is witness to this ignorance (unconsciousness) then the fact is that the soul is never born, never dead and is the form of perfection. Then we will certainly decide on it as our real self. Such a soul is surrounded by five covers (five sheaths or koshas). It is different from all these. That is one’s real self.

This upshot of this whole discussion is that we regard this body, full of urine, excreta as our self and develop affection for it that is the cause of gross ignorance. The biggest hurdle in the path of true knowledge is believing this dirty body full of urine and excreta as our real self. Regarding other covers such as life and sense organs, mind, intellect, bliss as our soul are other strata of ignorance. These are covering of ignorance. For achieving divine knowledge, it is very necessary to keep company with great mean who are self-realized souls, also perfect faith in siri guru granth sahib ji, listening to bani, contemplating it and believing in it with full faith. The man is always forgetting his rela self under the influence of maya (illusion)-

O my mind, your real self is all light; Realize yourself – SGGS Ji- 441

The soul and God are one and the same. Therefore-

Everywhere see god, hear god, speak of only one reality that is god (there is no second duality). Don’t recognize anyone other than God, who has spread himself all through the universe. SGGS Ji- 846

On account of ignorance, we regard this dirty body full of urine and excreta as our real self and so we suffer no end of miseries.

Lord! What can I say? Such is illusion-

Under it’s influence are objects not such as thought to be. SGGS Ji- 657

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source: Discourse on beyond II

~ Know your Real Self ~

First descended from Waheguru (God), a transparent ray, the conscious reality, which combing with nature took the epithet of living being. Round this ray, spread a mini globe- like substance, and the ray became resplendent. This state has been termed as the first separation (isolation) of atma(soul) from god(paratma) and has been called the sheath of bliss. After this, with the coming of thinking, one automatically moves into second circle of Maya (illusion). This is Miracle of Intellect. It was named the intellect of sheath. Descending lower still, there awakened the idea of making some achievement of producing something new. Affections and allurements brought this being under their control and pushed him into countless programmes, which are ever-expanding, so that the chain is never broken. The state of mind has been called the mental sheath. One was caught in the circle of resolution and repudiation. Beyond this stage, the cosmic energy pushed it still further down and called it the circle of power or the vital sheath. This power was born out of the relationships of the illusion. After this, it assumed some form and went on assuming different forms. As Guru Maharaj has ordained-

For several births thou became a worm and a moth.

In several birth thou wert an elephant, a fish and a deer.

In several births thou became a birth and a snake.

In several births thou were t yoked as a horse and a ox. SGGS JI- 176.

This cirlce of different bodies is called "Annmayee Kosh". Kosh the sheath of food.

In this way, this pure consciousness (drop) went on amassing around it tendencies towards illusions. It forgot its real nature and completely lost thought of the fact as to Who I am, and wherefrom I have come. Not recognizing oneself as the pure (divine) light, one started looking on oneself as just the body, which is made of five elements which is subject to all sorts of ills. The wise called this circle as sheath of food. It forsook it's real state of supreme happiness and considering oneself as the being of dust, it from the time immortal, has been going through the circle of births and deaths and has been experiencing untold miseries. He has been weeping and crying and lamenting. He does not realize how could he reunited with his original source(God), Who is all truth, all super consciousness and never ending bliss; and return to his original stage. So caught in miseries, he keeps on lamenting.

The seers, the prophets, the saints and sages, philosophers, and those who have known the secrets of the Divine have told man many supernatural ways to the real true path. These prophets having coming out of the source of all purity appeared in the most holy forms. They by their saying gave to man the gospel of vedas and puranas, bible and holy writ all of which assumed their loftiest form in the shape of Siri Guru Granth Sahib.

The fifth emperor of the world Guru Arjan Dev has commanded thus, to free his being from the circle of world of woe-

Sing the praise of the lord, O friendly saints, with alertness and single mindedness. SGGS JI - 295

This is a very simple path, treading on which man, over coming countless obstacles one can merge into his real self, which is all light. To achieve this goal, concentration of mind is extremely necessary. So long as one does not know how to achieve concentration of mind, that long all his prayers and other efforts remain fruitless. There are some tendencies of mind, which do not allow one to achieve concentration of mind. Of these, the first tendency is named Mentality of Evidence.

1. Mentality of Evidence (Parman Birthi/Regarding the outward world as the Supreme reality)- Whatever is the spread that is visible, they may be children, wife, parents, one's own body the different relationships of the bodies, friends, enemies, things that brings joys or sorrows remaining engrossed in all these things is termed Mindset of evidence. To withdraw the mind from this world of sights and sounds seems extremely difficult. Till one gets the guidance of a perfect Guru, one cannot be liberated from this visible world. Guru Maharaj's sermon is-

All that is seen, shall go not with thee, O Man. So abandon thou thy self-conceit and worldly attachment SGGS Ji- 1230

This being knows that he is not to stay in this world for all time, nor are sons and daughters, wife, parents eternal in the world, yet when one of them dies, he is over-whelmed with unbearable grief at their separation and can't rise above this slush.

2. The reverse mindset ( viparje birthi)- The second type of mentality is named the Reverse Mindset. In this stage, everything appears the opposite of what it is; things non-existent appear to have existed, and things existing seem non-existing. It is like the example of a traveling in summer through the desert, where man being tortured by thirst is desperately in need of water to quench his thirst. In the desert land, he has mirage that a river over-flowing with cold water is flowing at some distance from him. This deception seems to give to him some feeling to be a true fact. But when he reaches that place, he finds nothing there. It was just a mirage. Similarly, everyday he sees the world with his eyes and hears it with his ears and regards this outward world as full truth.

Before our very eyes, this world is seen passing away. SGGS JI - 325

Still he regards the world as a true reality. On the other hand Waheguru Ji, who is omnipresent and is immanent everywhere-

Wherever I see, there I see him present. He, my master, is never far from any place.

O my soul, ever remember him, who is contained in everything. SGGS Ji- 677

In the earth, in the sky

There pervades a light in all.

It can't be added to, nothing can be subtracted from it.

It permits no change (Akal Ustati, Siri Dasam Granth).

According to this holy write, inside and outside, all is full of good. With his power, go on the entire operation of the world; with the power of his name, the world appears, man regards this all pervading spirit as untrue. There is not trace of doubt in such a person. He feels that the world around him is all truth and God, who is All-perfection, spread all-round in the Universe is untrue. This mentality is called opposite Mindset. Guru Maharaj makes reference to it-

This world is the mountain of smoke.

What thought has made thee deem it real? SGGS Ji- 1187.

3. The sleeping mentality (niranda birthi)- The third type of mentality is called sleeping mindset. Man knows all and reads all, still he keeps lost under the power of sleep. This stage of forgetting the Reality is called the sleeping mentality.

4. Alternative Mentality (vikalp birthi)- The four kind is named Alternative mentality. Man does small good acts such as giving charity, the recitation of the bani and holy singing, and with the aid of these small items, he has hope of great fruit. In other words, under the influence of this mentality, one feels the great effect of desires. Little service and alternative mentality does not allow the mind to achieve full concentration in the prayers to God.

5. Remembering Mentality (Simriti Birthi)- The fifth type is the Remembering Mentality. When a person begins prayer and obeisance to God, when he starts recitation of the gospel, and when he tries to unite his consciousness with God's name, he has memories of long-forgotten things. This memory mindset does not allow him to offer prayers whole heartedly; his reading of the holy texts won't bear fruit.

Try to understand this fact by means of a parable. When Guru Nanak, the emperor of the world, while bathing in the Bein River plunged into water and came out after three days, he was repeating only one saying-

I am Neither a Hindu, Nor a Muslim.

My body and soul belong to Him, who is called God of Muslims and the lord of Hindus. SGGS Ji- 1136