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Ardaas always for strength to accept what Waheguru's wish is. There is a sakhi where a sant always had a thal presented to him at night. This is an old sakhi when sants used to do bhagti and in the middle of the night, they are sent some food from heaven. Taliya akash to utardiya - if you have ever heard of that line. This sant saw that it was raining too heavily and he wished it to end. The rain stopped. That night no thali for him. He prayed for an explanation and another sant told him that he had interfered in the hukam of Waheguru. It is very hard to say what hukam is.... hukam na keheya jaye. Therefore always pray for strength to bear whatever you are having to go through. Dukh sukh prabh dhevanhar. Avar teyag tu tise chitaar. Dukh sukh prabh devanhaar. Jo tis kare soi sukh maan. Guru Arjun Dev Ji even on the tati tavi said - tera kiya meetha laage. Ardaas always for thankfulness too even for dhukh because dhukh is the real medicine. Dhukh daru sukh rog peya. Sukh makes us forget God and we think it is all right if we don't pray. However we suffer afterwards then when we have wasted time and not said our prayers. http://spiritofthesikh.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/ardaas-what-are-rules.html

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH It also very plainly points out that married life is fully accepted in Sikhi and how the conduct of a husband towards his wife should be - a loving, fulfilling relationship. While we all should have respect for celibate Sikhs, there should never be a compulsion to assign any spiritual superiority to a celibate than a householder. A celibate Sikh is making a choice in his/her life to follow that path - there is no direction in Gurbani towards celibacy being accorded any special status. I repeat this point because there are plenty of Sikhs who are stuck in Baba culture, giving them special respect for their unique lifestyles (including celibacy).

Sorry to bore you guys, but i'm on a roll ! Singh Warrior II

WJKKWJKF What is the right thing ,to accept whatever is happening as GURU'S BHANA or to make a prayer and ask for help.How to make ARDAAS for Waheguru ji's help?

Hopefully other Gurdwaras will follow suit. These types of initiatives are much required in the West and more so in Punjab. Instead of shunning our brothers and sisters, they should be embraced and educated to follow the true path, without forcing it down their throats of course. Events to help Sikhs in Derby struggling with alcohol and drug addiction Workshops have been set up to help people in Derby cope with drugs and alcohol addiction. Former alcoholic Jaz Rai has organised the events this weekend for those in the Sikh community in need of help to overcome their struggles. All events take place at the Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara, in Stanhope Street, Normanton, with an alcohol and drugs workshop from 4pm to 6pm on Saturday and a presentation and speaker session from 11am to 12.30pm on Sunday. There are currently around 20,000 Sikhs living in Derby. Follow us: @DerbyTelegraph on Twitter | derbytelegraph on Facebook

Exactly. Somehow it has now come to such a state that today people think grahisti means selfish and celibate means selfless. Now we have Singhs who want to dedicate themselves to seva thinking they should become celibate because they are under the misconception (ਗਲਤਫਹਿਮੀ) that they are making a big balidaan or sacrifice and that Guru Sahib will be more happy because of this. But who can be more dedicated than grahists like Sant Bhindranwale, Sukhdev Singh Babbar or Baba Manochahal? And this is just the tip of the iceberg. The list of Shaheeds and Mahapursh and Bhagats who have been grahists is endless.So in conclusion, celibacy has NOTHING to do with Gurmat Marg as revealed by Guru Jees either spiritually or Rehit wise. If a person wants to become celibate for some other reason they can do so but they should not be under the misconception that it will make them closer or higher in the Kripa Drishti of Vaheguru.

Ask for help first then accept bhana. Do ardaas like a child asking parents for help. The child has full trust and faith in parents. It knows that its parents will do whatever will make the child happy. So if parents say no, child knows they said no because they care for him and the parents knew it wouldn't make him happy.same way, do ardaas with full faith that god hears u, cares for u, and will give u watever will make u happy. And so if u do ardaas and u dont get that, then u have to follow bhana. Then u have to say, watever u do is good guruji. I know i didnt get wat i wanted because it isnt good for me. God like a parent knows, wat u need and wat is good for u. So u have to accept the results of ur ardaas with bhana. If ur ardaas is fulfilled, great, god is kind. If ur ardaas is not fulfilled, great, god knows best.There is a story of a Christian nun, amy Carmichael. When she was small, she prayed brgore bedtime "God i like blue eyes. Could you please change my brown eyes to blue?" next morning she was really excited and she ran to the mirror. She was disappointed to see her brown eyes. She thought god has not answered my prayers. Everyone says god is nice he answers all prayers. Then she realized, he did answer. He said, "No." she realized i asked him if he could change my eye color and he hasnt which means he said no. This is the faith one should have. That god hears and answers all prayers. Sometimes he says no. And sikhi teaches us to accept his no gratefully, in bhana. To think that God is kindness itself so he said no for a good reason. So doing ardaas is not going against hukum and does not mean u r not following bhana. Following bhana is like that good child who asks his parents for everything and when they say no, he does not get resentful or angry. He accepts cheerfully and does not forget all the other times his parents said yes and all the stuff they gave him. All parents want their kids to ask them for help so dont hesitate to ask God. However dont be like those bad kids that even parents dont like: when the parents refuse him something, he gets angry, throws a tantrum, and when the parents try to explain why or remind him look how many toys u already have, the kid says i dont care. Always ask guruji for help and things like bhagat dhanna did in aarti.

Most married men after a few kids wish they were celibate. Anyway per Anand Chamatkar 5.Vols Biography of Baba Nand Singh. He didn't twist anybodies arm to stay with him. Women could visit him if accompanied by Father, brother or husband. To enter or exit celibate order is ones free will. I have seen then come and go no big deal.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/60127-how-to-do-ardaas/?hl=ardaas http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77812-bhakti/page-10?hl=ardaas#entry649908 kaurp Posted Today, 04:02 PM WJKKWJKF " What is the right thing ,to accept whatever is happening as GURU'S BHANA or to make a prayer and ask for help.How to make ARDAAS for Waheguru ji's help? " ਹੁਕਮੀ ਹੋਵਨਿ ਆਕਾਰ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਨ ਕਹਿਆ ਜਾਈ ॥ हुकमी होवनि आकार हुकमु न कहिआ जाई ॥ Hukmī hovan ākār hukam na kahi▫ā jā▫ī. By the Lord's order bodies are produced. His order cannot be narrated. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਹੋਵਨਿ ਜੀਅ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਮਿਲੈ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ हुकमी होवनि जीअ हुकमि मिलै वडिआई ॥ Hukmī hovan jī▫a hukam milai vadi▫ā▫ī. With His fiat the souls come into being and with His fiat greatness is obtained. ਹੁਕਮੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ ਲਿਖਿ ਦੁਖ ਸੁਖ ਪਾਈਅਹਿ ॥ हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि लिखि दुख सुख पाईअहि ॥ Hukmī uṯam nīcẖ hukam likẖ ḏukẖ sukẖ pā▫ī▫ah. By His command the mortals are make high and low and by His written command they obtain woe and weal. ਇਕਨਾ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਬਖਸੀਸ ਇਕਿ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਸਦਾ ਭਵਾਈਅਹਿ ॥ इकना हुकमी बखसीस इकि हुकमी सदा भवाईअहि ॥ Iknā hukmī bakẖsīs ik hukmī saḏā bẖavā▫ī▫ah. Some obtain gifts through His order and some through His order are ever made to wander in transmigration. ਹੁਕਮੈ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਹੁਕਮ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥ हुकमै अंदरि सभु को बाहरि हुकम न कोइ ॥ Hukmai anḏar sabẖ ko bāhar hukam na ko▫e. All are subject to His fiat and none is exempt from His fiat. ਨਾਨਕ ਹੁਕਮੈ ਜੇ ਬੁਝੈ ਤ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਹੈ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥੨॥ नानक हुकमै जे बुझै त हउमै कहै न कोइ ॥२॥ Nānak hukmai je bujẖai ṯa ha▫umai kahai na ko▫e. ||2|| O Nanak! if man were to understand Lord's fiat, then no one would take pride (speak in ego). SGGS Ang 1 ?? Dhan Guru Nanak Dev ji - Both, but think about help with what? This shabad is from Bhai Gurdas ji's Varan - Vaar 27 Pauri 15 ਦਾਤਾ ਓਹੁ ਨ ਮੰਗੀਐ ਫਿਰਿ ਮੰਗਣਿ ਜਾਈਐ। ਹੋਛਾ ਸਾਹੁ ਨ ਕੀਚਈ ਫਿਰਿ ਪਛੋਤਾਈਐ। ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਓਹੁ ਨ ਸੇਵੀਐ ਜਮ ਡੰਡੁ ਸਹਾਈਐ। ਹਉਮੈ ਰੋਗੁ ਨ ਕਟਈ ਓਹੁ ਵੈਦੁ ਨ ਲਾਈਐ। ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਨ ਉਤਰੈ ਕਿਉਂ ਤੀਰਥਿ ਨਾਈਐ। ਪੀਰ ਮੁਰੀਦਾਂ ਪਿਰਹੜੀ ਸੁਖ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਈਐ।੧੫। Don't ask for a gift that you have to ask for again and again. Employ not an untrustworthy banker who will afterwards make you repent. Serve not such a master who will render you liable to punishment later. Engage not a physician who cannot cure your illness. The filth of your sins cannot be cleansed so why bathe at places of pilgrimage. The Love between the Guru and the disciples brings happiness and stability.(15) dhaathaa ouhu n ma(n)geeai fir ma(n)gan jaaeeai. hoshhaa saahu n keechee fir pashhothaaeeai. saahib ouhu n saeveeai jam dda(n)dd sehaaeeai. houmai rog n kattee ouhu vaidh n laaeeai. dhuramath mail n outharai kiou(n) theerathh naaeeai. peer mureedhaa(n) pireharree sukh sehaj samaaeeai .15.

The above is more to do with adultery than it is about celibacy.

hhmm, if you are the type of person who gets headaches from damp hair/rain making head wet ..... you can take Belladonna 30c homeopathic remedy to sort that pain out . Have vitamin C rich foods with your leafy greens if anaemia is an issue and if taking vit D3 plus take vitamin K complex (k1 and k2) . Watch posture when working/reading as tight shoulders and neck muscles restrict bloodflow to the head causing headaches too . All the other ideas that veer and Bhen ji have given are good advice too

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Boy, that was depressing. It does change, and it is not just a list of chores you get to do daily as a burden. The Amrit sanchar you are blessed with is based on the previous deeds of your life, any kamai of the past and Guru Sahib's/Akaal Purakh's grace on you, and what dedication and preparation you bring to Guru Sahib's darbar. There are those who have darshan of Guru Sahib in Amrit sanchars, those who achieve a state of never ending Simran, those who unlock their past kamai and pick up from where the left off previously, those who enter stages of bairaag and Anand in the Amrit Sanchar. It is transformative, but it will also depend not only on the actions of your past but also the preparations of your present life. Gurbani is replete with references to getting Naam and Amrit and reaching high states of spirituality and Anand. Surely Gurbani does not lie. For some, it is simply a ceremony into Sikhi, for others it is life changing. There are degrees of this change. Some will feel only the beginning of their journey that "something" has changed. Some have a gradual, subtle change in their life that opens itself up as time goes on, some are blessed in an instant. This is not an exclusive list and there are many in betweens and out of the scope of this list.

Just got back from watching Ardaas movie. My review: Gippy Grewal did a good job directing it. Everything portrayed in the movie is truth of the present time in Punjab. As I've got back from pind life not long ago, it is quite an accurate portrayal of the areas covered; drugs, drink, suicide, family pressures, birth of girls, sons/husbands going abroad to work, family life. There were funny moments, and sad moments, to which I did cry. Music and songs were good too, lyrics were perfect. I think the actors/actresses played their roles with dedication. I didn't think Gurpreet Ghuggi would have been able to perform his role well, since he's a comedian actor mostly, but he was brilliant, so hats off to him. The women actresses and kids were very good too in their characters. Gurbani was very well applied also to the scenes accordingly. That's all I'm going to say, as don't want to spoil it for others. I can't comment for other viewers, but I will say, I enjoyed watching it.

There is a right way to live life and a wrong way. There are people that want a great future for Sikhi and then there are those that are more interested in finding short term ways of disguising their secret / latent homosexuality / perverseness. Lets analyse one of the ways...Celibacy: Lets all assume that the proponents of celibacy are right and of course, as we all want to do whats right, we all follow their example and be celibate. Lets follow it step by step: We all become celibate Nobody's getting married and making babies anymore so, before long, the population of Sikhs worldwide goes down to about 4 million. We carry on being ceibate and then, a bit further down the line, a newspaper will write an article about the last 'Sikh' left alive in the world....some random 88 year old in Ludhiana. He dies of old age and then thats it.....no more Sikhs left in the entire world. Wow. What a wonderfull future the celibacy walleh here are proposing.

Dont bother goin there mate, any talk of meat, n this site closes the thread, its y i never replied to 'big tera'.