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"Guru Gobind Singh Ji created the Khalsa, and all Sikhs are suppose to take Amrit and join the Khalsa panth, what other people dont do should not be our problem. "

a singh told me there are like three or four types of people in this world, i can't remmeber one of them but goes like this:

MANUKH

SIKH

KHALSA

Khalsa is the goal.

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Actual Khalsa is very rare.

I dont know, but i prefer to leave that name to those who have become the dust of the feet... they are so humble. Leave it to those who are pure.

Sikh works because it means you are a learner. Thats the point. But if you become brahmgiani, then people can call you khalsa. But dont call yourself khalsa unless you are for sure you are perfect...(which the humble person would never say they are perfect... thats major ego) If you are not perfect, and are learning, and wanting to learn then call yourself sikh.

Leave Khalsa to the very rare...

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I agree. That's why I don't like to put 'Kaur' in my name. Because I have not yet taken amrit, I don't feel like I deserve that title.

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"Guru Gobind Singh Ji created the Khalsa, and all Sikhs are suppose to take Amrit and join the Khalsa panth, what other people dont do should not be our problem. "

a singh told me there are like three or four types of people in this world, i can't remmeber one of them but goes like this:

MANUKH

SIKH

KHALSA

Khalsa is the goal.

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waheguru ji ka khalsa

waheguru ji ki fateh

:) :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh:

AND ALL TOGETHER ARE

AKAL PURAKH KI FAUJ

PRGTYO KHALSA PARMATM KI MAUJ

RAB RAKHA

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when you have taken amrit you are apart of the khalsa panth which makes you a sikh and also which makes a khalsa... a sikh is a khalsa!!!!

your defenition of khalsa is way too much SSM then it would be difficult to become khalsa in your books... read guru granth sahib ji and apply it to your life and you will automattically become khalsa!!! if there was so little khalsai left in this world by your defention... then what is the point of KHALISTAN.... if there are barely in khalsai in khalistan then what is the point of making it grin.gif sikhi will eventually die off because we have made it so hard!!!!!!!!! there were much more sikh during guru ji's times.... but now it has decreased drastically. why? this is because we have made sikhi so hard that no one wants to be apart of the khalsa panth... and we eventually threw ourselves out of the khalsa panth described by SSM.

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WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Actual Khalsa is very rare.

I dont know, but i prefer to leave that name to those who have become the dust of the feet... they are so humble. Leave it to those who are pure.

Sikh works because it means you are a learner. Thats the point. But if you become brahmgiani, then people can call you khalsa. But dont call yourself khalsa unless you are for sure you are perfect...(which the humble person would never say they are perfect... thats major ego) If you are not perfect, and are learning, and wanting to learn then call yourself sikh.

Leave Khalsa to the very rare...

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I totally agree with you Sister

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

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