Sikhs Khalistan And Jews Isreal

[proudkaur21]

35 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Nevermind his cabinet, check his dinner table and his family tree!

Bruh this is so obvious at this point I dont even know what to say.

[MisterrSingh]

1 hour ago, proudkaur21 said:

Bruh this is so obvious at this point I dont even know what to say.

You're just imagining things. Go and make some saunf tea, watch some Netflix, and relax. Everything's going to be fine. 

[KingJohal]

On 4/20/2022 at 10:12 AM, proudkaur21 said:

It doesn't make sense. Its not a few corporations. Its literally like a vast majority. Look who runs Hollywood. Look who owns most media corporations. They know that in order to have control over people they need to control these things like money supply, media, education and what not. Same as how Indian govt does in Punjab to our people.You are still not seeing the bigger picture. So many words can be twisted. Like now sometimes i wonder what we are reading about history how much is the truth? People who control these things can easily twist anything in their favour. You are still not understanding about how things are working. Why without the wishes of the people at the top you cannot get into these top political positions. Its not what it seems.

 

On 4/20/2022 at 7:21 AM, MisterrSingh said:

Anyone who sees any similarities between Jews & Israel and Sikhs & Khalistan (beyond their respective minority status) doesn't have a grasp of either Sikhs & Khalistan and Israel & Jews. 

It's beyond laughable to draw ANY comparisons between the two. It's downright ignorant of not only history, but religion and sociology. This is the kind of take you'd read in an English language Punjabi local newspaper that you can find stacked up in any langar hall across the UK. 

The Jewish elite and its Machine are so powerful they literally have to downplay their reach and impact as the eternal, downtrodden minority so as not to draw attention to their power and capabilities, which is why you get Sikhs believing we're anything like them.

Why do Sikhs who see these comparisons never mention the historical and continuing British and American patronage of Jewish causes and Israel; two of the greatest empires in the history of humanity? Why no mention of the one family and financial house established in the Middle Ages that virtually bankrolled the establishment of Israel? Where's that support for Sikhs? Instead, we see the same room-level IQ arguments stemming from Sikhs getting gassed after watching Schindler's List. 

Jews have been oppressed for hundreds of years. There are many similarities to draw between both of our religions, that said there are also many differences. See this great video:

..and "the one family" you speak of is likely the Rothschilds. What is your issue with them? Their family literally rose out of the ghettos of the Holy Roman Empire and managed to create a homeland for their people. I say good for them... Learn your history and stop buying into conspiracy crap. I used to be the same way. 

Rothschilds originate from Frankfurt. The Jews of Frankfurt (part of the Holy Roman Empire at the time) were required to live apart from the Catholics/Christians in a single narrow lane called the Judengasse, or Jews' Alley. The street was overcrowded and the 3,000 Jewish inhabitants were locked into this ghetto on Sundays, Christian holidays, and at night. Frankfurt's Jews could not enter a public garden, visit a coffee shop, or even get groceries.. 

That took place in the 1700s...The earliest record of antisemitism dates all the way back to at least 1233 in the UK. Jews have been an oppressed people for the majority of human history. They only managed to gain most of their power and wealth within the last few hundred years. Once you learn their story its truly an amazing feat they've achieved. Its in our best interest to learn from and work with them in my opinion. Its quite a disgrace what we have allowed to happen to our homeland.  

[SinghPunjabSingh]

On 4/21/2022 at 10:42 PM, KingJohal said:

Jews have been oppressed for hundreds of years.

The Jews I have interacted with are very good people and indeed surprisingly some of them were aware of 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of the Sikh population was killed there. But they lack awareness about the Vadda Ghallughara in which 90% of the Sikh Qaum was killed by Muslims.

Obviously Israel was established with the help of the USA and the UK back in 1948. However, with the USA, Russia, UK, France, Canada all supporting Delhi and realising that India will have an economy of around $42 TRILLION by the year 2050 these countries have no appetite to assist set up an independent landlocked homeland for Sikhs which has zero strategic value to their own interests and would lose them trillions of dollars of trade.

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/research-insights/economy/the-world-in-2050.html

The best Sikhs can do to ensure the Delhi is never allowed to repeat any Genocides against Sikhs again as inflicted by the Mughals and Indira Gandhi is increase parchaar to one billion poor Indians who are currently falsely defined as "Hindu's".

Additionally if Pakistan could split into Balochistan, Sindh Desh, Pashtunistan and West Punjab then the glue (Pakistan) that holds India together would disintegrate.

Mind you with Sikhs being a minority in Doaba and on course to comprise a minority of the east Punjab population by the 2031 census we need to focus on parchaar and encouraging people to join the Sikh Panth before we spend too much time looking for parallels between Sikhs and Jews in terms of Israel. 

 

[KingJohal]

Here is another good write up.

 

"According to Sikh scholar Khuswant Singh, "The Sikhs have a lot in common with [Orthodox] Jews. Sikh patriarchs look like [Sephardic] rabbis. Both the Jews and Sikhs have  known persecution. Like the Jews, the Sikhs regard themselves as the chosen people." Like the Jews, the Sikhs lost their kingdom and have long struggled to re-establish an independent homeland, during which their people have been massacred in the hundreds of thousands. In their own diaspora they have created vibrant Sikh communities worldwide. Nonetheless, there are marked differences between Sikhs and Jews. Sikhs practice cremation and are strict vegetarians. Sikh men are not circumcised and fasting is outlawed.

Amrik Singh Pannu was born in Amritsar, Punjab and resided in England before migrating to the San Francisco Bay Area in 1991. An initiated (Khalsa) Sikh and congregant of the El Sobrante Gurdwara, he has for many years served in the capacity of administrator of the religious school, as teacher of Punjabi and Sikh doctrine, and as the temple's librarian. Amrik has a BS in agricultural science and a post-graduate degree in rural economics from universities in India. A resident of Hercules, he is a volunteer at the Pinole Medical Center and at the Hercules Library."
 

Source:

https://www.paloaltojcc.org/events/sikhism-judaism-separated-at-birth

[proudkaur21]

On 4/21/2022 at 9:59 PM, SinghPunjabSingh said:

The Jews I have interacted with are very good people and indeed surprisingly some of them were aware of 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs in which 25% of the Sikh population was killed there. But they lack awareness about the Vadda Ghallughara in which 90% of the Sikh Qaum was killed by Muslims.

Obviously Israel was established with the help of the USA and the UK back in 1948. However, with the USA, Russia, UK, France, Canada all supporting Delhi and realising that India will have an economy of around $42 TRILLION by the year 2050 these countries have no appetite to assist set up an independent landlocked homeland for Sikhs which has zero strategic value to their own interests and would lose them trillions of dollars of trade.

https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/research-insights/economy/the-world-in-2050.html

The best Sikhs can do to ensure the Delhi is never allowed to repeat any Genocides against Sikhs again as inflicted by the Mughals and Indira Gandhi is increase parchaar to one billion poor Indians who are currently falsely defined as "Hindu's".

Additionally if Pakistan could split into Balochistan, Sindh Desh, Pashtunistan and West Punjab then the glue (Pakistan) that holds India together would disintegrate.

Mind you with Sikhs being a minority in Doaba and on course to comprise a minority of the east Punjab population by the 2031 census we need to focus on parchaar and encouraging people to join the Sikh Panth before we spend too much time looking for parallels between Sikhs and Jews in terms of Israel. 

 

India will have a 42 trillion$ economy? Everyone and their mother is trying to leave India and run to Canada as it is easiest to immigrate here. And im not talking about Punjabis I'm talking about Indians from other parts of India. Literally families moving here to Canada and I keep hearing India is doing this and that. I'm taking about rich families moving not even the unemployed masses.

[proudkaur21]

11 hours ago, KingJohal said:

Here is another good write up.

 

"According to Sikh scholar Khuswant Singh, "The Sikhs have a lot in common with [Orthodox] Jews. Sikh patriarchs look like [Sephardic] rabbis. Both the Jews and Sikhs have  known persecution. Like the Jews, the Sikhs regard themselves as the chosen people." Like the Jews, the Sikhs lost their kingdom and have long struggled to re-establish an independent homeland, during which their people have been massacred in the hundreds of thousands. In their own diaspora they have created vibrant Sikh communities worldwide. Nonetheless, there are marked differences between Sikhs and Jews. Sikhs practice cremation and are strict vegetarians. Sikh men are not circumcised and fasting is outlawed.

Amrik Singh Pannu was born in Amritsar, Punjab and resided in England before migrating to the San Francisco Bay Area in 1991. An initiated (Khalsa) Sikh and congregant of the El Sobrante Gurdwara, he has for many years served in the capacity of administrator of the religious school, as teacher of Punjabi and Sikh doctrine, and as the temple's librarian. Amrik has a BS in agricultural science and a post-graduate degree in rural economics from universities in India. A resident of Hercules, he is a volunteer at the Pinole Medical Center and at the Hercules Library."
 

Source:

 

I take whatever khushwant singh says with a grain of salt. Also was he not an atheist?

[MisterrSingh]

2 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

I take whatever khushwant singh says with a grain of salt. Also was he not an atheist?

Atheism and Cultural Jewishness go hand in hand. 

[MisterrSingh]

14 hours ago, KingJohal said:

"According to Sikh scholar Khuswant Singh, "The Sikhs have a lot in common with [Orthodox] Jews. Sikh patriarchs look like [Sephardic] rabbis. Both the Jews and Sikhs have  known persecution. Like the Jews, the Sikhs regard themselves as the chosen people." 

We also look very similar to Afghani desert dwellers. The guy on the left in the yellow parna wouldn't look out of place in any Punjabi pind during the 80s and 90s.

Going back further in history, we also bear a resemblance to the Mesopotamian Akkadians:

Basically, any race of men with dusky complexions and medium-length-to-uncut beards are Sikh allies, lol. Genius.

As for persecution, there isn't a group on earth who hasn't faced persecution from someone or another throughout history.

What a load of bollox from Khushwant Singh.

[SinghPunjabSingh]

14 hours ago, proudkaur21 said:

India will have a 42 trillion$ economy? Everyone and their mother is trying to leave India and run to Canada as it is easiest to immigrate here. And im not talking about Punjabis I'm talking about Indians from other parts of India. Literally families moving here to Canada and I keep hearing India is doing this and that. I'm taking about rich families moving not even the unemployed masses.

Emigration from India + Punjab will continue for a long time yet.

As China currently has a $20trillion economy but the number of rich millionaire mainland Chinese trying to obtain US, Canadian, UK, Australian, New Zealand and EU passports shows no sign of abating.

Currently India has around a $3trillion economy in nominal USD terms (which is around $11trillion in PPP terms).

That is approximately around 14 times the size of the Indian economy in 1984. But with the Indian population projected to 1.65 Billion by 2050 it is no big stretch of the imagination that the Indian economy will reach around $42trillion or around 15% of the global economy by 2050 according to most top economists.

This is type of growth that simple clean non-corrupt good governance can create:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/higher-than-national-average-per-capita-income-of-telangana-doubled

This guy KCR has doubled the economy in Telangana in 7years is probably the one man that Modi and Amit Shah fear the most in the 2029 election.

But even in Punjab 50% growth is projected over the next 5years and if Bhagwant Mann can govern with honesty Punjab should have an economy of at least twice the size it is today in around 10 years.

But there will still be hundreds of millions of poor and middle class Indians that will continue to emigrate and the billionaire class will still prefer London and Switzerland compared to the place that they steal their money from (with Government support).